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	<title>Comments on: Neal Boortz May Be Pulled from Virginia Radio Station</title>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 02:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Shannon sounds a bit &quot;bombastic&quot;,or is that spelled &quot;politicking&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Shannon sounds a bit "bombastic",or is that spelled "politicking"?</p>
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		<title>By: Thunder Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thunder Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 18:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those students and teachers were waiting to be executed. No amount of spin can avoid that truth. 
Imagine the lives that would have been saved had someone had their weapon with them that day.

I can guarantee the slaughter would have been stopped had it happened on the college campus I am on right now, or twenty years ago when I was the same age as many of the defenseless students. 

Shutting down speech you don&#039;t agree with is typical of the Stalinist Left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those students and teachers were waiting to be executed. No amount of spin can avoid that truth.<br />
Imagine the lives that would have been saved had someone had their weapon with them that day.</p>
<p>I can guarantee the slaughter would have been stopped had it happened on the college campus I am on right now, or twenty years ago when I was the same age as many of the defenseless students. </p>
<p>Shutting down speech you don't agree with is typical of the Stalinist Left.</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A station pulling a radio host is their version of firing him, not censorship. An good for them -- that level of craven idiocy should get someone fired from their post. Of course, we&#039;d have very few talk radio hosts left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A station pulling a radio host is their version of firing him, not censorship. An good for them -- that level of craven idiocy should get someone fired from their post. Of course, we'd have very few talk radio hosts left.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;3. All that is needed to reduce mass shooting events is for the psychotic shooter to face the possibility that when he enters a room someone might be throwing bullets at him instead of textbooks. The chance that psycopaths might get bullets thrown back at them massively reduces the odds of them attempting a mass shooting attack.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uhhhmmm, well, not neccessarily.  The above seems to rest on the assumption of rational thought processes.  Rational thought processes are not usually the hallmark of psychopaths who go on mass murder sprees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>3. All that is needed to reduce mass shooting events is for the psychotic shooter to face the possibility that when he enters a room someone might be throwing bullets at him instead of textbooks. The chance that psycopaths might get bullets thrown back at them massively reduces the odds of them attempting a mass shooting attack.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uhhhmmm, well, not neccessarily.  The above seems to rest on the assumption of rational thought processes.  Rational thought processes are not usually the hallmark of psychopaths who go on mass murder sprees.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Gun free zones do not keep the guns out of psychopaths hands.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is true that gun-free zones do not prevent psychotic shooting sprees. Neither do they cause them; IMHO, their effectiveness (or lack therof) is not terribly related to the issue of CCA permits. Hell, if you&#039;re properly carrying a concealed weapon, nobody should know if you&#039;re violating a gun-free zone until you&#039;re actively involved (on one side or the other) of such a shooting spree...
&lt;blockquote&gt;3. All that is needed to reduce mass shooting events is for the psychotic shooter to face the possibility that when he enters a room someone might be throwing bullets at him instead of textbooks. The chance that psycopaths might get bullets thrown back at them massively reduces the odds of them attempting a mass shooting attack.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
OK, a problem here... you explicitly describe your subject as a &#039;psychotic shooter&#039; and then expect him to follow logical train of thought that he might get killed by one of his potential victims. I&#039;m not discarding the point of your argument, but this is rotten support for it because &#039;psychotic shooters&#039; are, by definition, not that good at such thinking. Either their insanity overrides their self-preservation (in which case the risk of their own death from a heat-packing victim is no deterrent to them) or they&#039;re just trying to kill as many people as they can before the get taken out by the cops (and once they&#039;ve resigned themselves to suicide-by-cop, again, deterrence is no longer an issue).

While more concealed weapons might limit the number of &lt;em&gt;victims&lt;/em&gt;, they will not decrease the number of &lt;em&gt;incidents&lt;/em&gt;, since death is not a deterrent to this type of nut. The psychotic shooter will &lt;em&gt;always &lt;/em&gt;get off the first shots...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gun free zones do not keep the guns out of psychopaths hands.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is true that gun-free zones do not prevent psychotic shooting sprees. Neither do they cause them; IMHO, their effectiveness (or lack therof) is not terribly related to the issue of CCA permits. Hell, if you're properly carrying a concealed weapon, nobody should know if you're violating a gun-free zone until you're actively involved (on one side or the other) of such a shooting spree...</p>
<blockquote><p>3. All that is needed to reduce mass shooting events is for the psychotic shooter to face the possibility that when he enters a room someone might be throwing bullets at him instead of textbooks. The chance that psycopaths might get bullets thrown back at them massively reduces the odds of them attempting a mass shooting attack.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, a problem here... you explicitly describe your subject as a 'psychotic shooter' and then expect him to follow logical train of thought that he might get killed by one of his potential victims. I'm not discarding the point of your argument, but this is rotten support for it because 'psychotic shooters' are, by definition, not that good at such thinking. Either their insanity overrides their self-preservation (in which case the risk of their own death from a heat-packing victim is no deterrent to them) or they're just trying to kill as many people as they can before the get taken out by the cops (and once they've resigned themselves to suicide-by-cop, again, deterrence is no longer an issue).</p>
<p>While more concealed weapons might limit the number of <em>victims</em>, they will not decrease the number of <em>incidents</em>, since death is not a deterrent to this type of nut. The psychotic shooter will <em>always </em>get off the first shots...</p>
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		<title>By: TJIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, you said&lt;blockquote&gt;But this idea that we need to arm everyone in case some mad man goes on the rampage is nutty.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You are the only person I see advocating it.  So if it is a nutty idea it is yours and you own it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, you said<br />
<blockquote>But this idea that we need to arm everyone in case some mad man goes on the rampage is nutty.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are the only person I see advocating it.  So if it is a nutty idea it is yours and you own it.</p>
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		<title>By: Appalachian Scribe &#187; Booting Boortz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Appalachian Scribe &#187; Booting Boortz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Joyner reports that a radio station in Virginia might pull the Neal Boortz show due to some controversial remarks he made following the Virginia Tech shooting: Boortz echoed a theme expressed by many that the victims were “standing in terror waiting for (their) turn to be executed.” Station manager Scott Stevens was appalled, as were some Democratic members of the Virginia legislature. Delegate Stephen Shannon stated, “I feel (Virginia radio stations) have a sense of public responsibility in the immediate aftermath of this tragedy to exercise some restraint. What they did was let this broadcaster peel off outrageous assertions that somehow it was the fault of the students and the faculty members who were killed or injured…There’s simply no place for this out-of-state radio host to make such claims on Virginia’s airwaves immediately after this tragedy has taken place.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] James Joyner reports that a radio station in Virginia might pull the Neal Boortz show due to some controversial remarks he made following the Virginia Tech shooting: Boortz echoed a theme expressed by many that the victims were “standing in terror waiting for (their) turn to be executed.” Station manager Scott Stevens was appalled, as were some Democratic members of the Virginia legislature. Delegate Stephen Shannon stated, “I feel (Virginia radio stations) have a sense of public responsibility in the immediate aftermath of this tragedy to exercise some restraint. What they did was let this broadcaster peel off outrageous assertions that somehow it was the fault of the students and the faculty members who were killed or injured…There&rsquo;s simply no place for this out-of-state radio host to make such claims on Virginia&rsquo;s airwaves immediately after this tragedy has taken place.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TJIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick DeMent,

You can rant and rave right past the facts on the ground all you want but that does not change the facts.

1.  Mass killings with guns happen for the most part in &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;gun free zones.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Gun free zones do not keep the guns out of psychopaths hands.

2.  There has never been an increase in gun violence caused by concealed carry permit holders in the states that have passed will issue right to carry laws.

3.  All that is needed to reduce mass shooting events is for the psychotic shooter to face the possibility that when he enters a room someone might be throwing bullets at him instead of textbooks.  The chance that psycopaths might get bullets thrown back at them massively reduces the odds of them attempting a mass shooting attack.

Cheers,

TJIT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick DeMent,</p>
<p>You can rant and rave right past the facts on the ground all you want but that does not change the facts.</p>
<p>1.  Mass killings with guns happen for the most part in <strong><em>gun free zones.</em></strong> Gun free zones do not keep the guns out of psychopaths hands.</p>
<p>2.  There has never been an increase in gun violence caused by concealed carry permit holders in the states that have passed will issue right to carry laws.</p>
<p>3.  All that is needed to reduce mass shooting events is for the psychotic shooter to face the possibility that when he enters a room someone might be throwing bullets at him instead of textbooks.  The chance that psycopaths might get bullets thrown back at them massively reduces the odds of them attempting a mass shooting attack.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>TJIT</p>
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		<title>By: Rick DeMent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick DeMent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 16:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJIT,

And you miss the fact that the % chance anyone will ever have to face a crazed killer on the rampage is like winning a the lottery 10 time in a row, it&#039;s just not on the radar of things people prepare for in their day to day life unless they are creepy insane. 

You also miss the fact that concealed carry gives psychopaths the same rights as anyone else to embark on a killing spree in the first place. You also miss the fact that there will never be a critical mass of people who will train themselves to respond to such an attack or walk around packed  24/7 to thwart an incident that is so statistically remote. The best you will end up with is more and more people, unprepared and untrained to deal with such a threat but armed none the less. 

In order to get a critical mass of people to carry 24/7 the requirements will have to be relaxed to the point were even the perpetrators will get to carry as well as the law abider&#039;s. There tare too many people with delusions of adequacy, shooting a pistol and hitting your target is hard and becoming proficient requires training and practice.

You simply cannot come up with a solution to prevent some tragedies, nor can you even mitigate it because every situation is different but I can tell you what the solution is not ... to loosen restrictions on concealed carry. Look you want to pack 24/7, in most states you can, fill out the form, pass the requirements so you can feel safe. But this idea that we need to arm everyone in case some mad man goes on the rampage is nutty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJIT,</p>
<p>And you miss the fact that the % chance anyone will ever have to face a crazed killer on the rampage is like winning a the lottery 10 time in a row, it's just not on the radar of things people prepare for in their day to day life unless they are creepy insane. </p>
<p>You also miss the fact that concealed carry gives psychopaths the same rights as anyone else to embark on a killing spree in the first place. You also miss the fact that there will never be a critical mass of people who will train themselves to respond to such an attack or walk around packed  24/7 to thwart an incident that is so statistically remote. The best you will end up with is more and more people, unprepared and untrained to deal with such a threat but armed none the less. </p>
<p>In order to get a critical mass of people to carry 24/7 the requirements will have to be relaxed to the point were even the perpetrators will get to carry as well as the law abider's. There tare too many people with delusions of adequacy, shooting a pistol and hitting your target is hard and becoming proficient requires training and practice.</p>
<p>You simply cannot come up with a solution to prevent some tragedies, nor can you even mitigate it because every situation is different but I can tell you what the solution is not ... to loosen restrictions on concealed carry. Look you want to pack 24/7, in most states you can, fill out the form, pass the requirements so you can feel safe. But this idea that we need to arm everyone in case some mad man goes on the rampage is nutty.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 15:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one person responsible for your saftey.
One.

You.

That the government usurps that responsibility, not withstanding. And that the government does such a poor job of it, I draw as proof.
 
IN that sense, Boortz is correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one person responsible for your saftey.<br />
One.</p>
<p>You.</p>
<p>That the government usurps that responsibility, not withstanding. And that the government does such a poor job of it, I draw as proof.</p>
<p>IN that sense, Boortz is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 15:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very, very difficult to avoid wishing that Boortz and Steyn would find themselves victims in a similar situation, and that there would be video of their reaction.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;d quite come off as Chuck Norris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very, very difficult to avoid wishing that Boortz and Steyn would find themselves victims in a similar situation, and that there would be video of their reaction.  I don't think they'd quite come off as Chuck Norris.</p>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boortz isn&#039;t the only one who mouthed off about VA Tech students and the lack of response. Columnist Mark Steyn &lt;a href=&quot;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YzEzYzQ0Y2MyZjNlNjY1ZTEzMTA0MGRmM2EyMTQ0NjY=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;did the same thing&lt;/a&gt; less than two weeks ago.

and my reply

http://thefloridamasochist.blogspot.com/2007/04/knucklehead-of-day-award_24.html

I thought Steyn&#039;s attack on the male students manhood was just sick.

Boortz and Steyn are welcome to their opinions and can state them. I can also say what they say is outrageous. Free speech goes both ways, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boortz isn't the only one who mouthed off about VA Tech students and the lack of response. Columnist Mark Steyn <a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YzEzYzQ0Y2MyZjNlNjY1ZTEzMTA0MGRmM2EyMTQ0NjY=" rel="nofollow">did the same thing</a> less than two weeks ago.</p>
<p>and my reply</p>
<p><a href="http://thefloridamasochist.blogspot.com/2007/04/knucklehead-of-day-award_24.html" rel="nofollow">http://thefloridamasochist.blogspot.com/2007/04/knucklehead-of-day-award_24.html</a></p>
<p>I thought Steyn's attack on the male students manhood was just sick.</p>
<p>Boortz and Steyn are welcome to their opinions and can state them. I can also say what they say is outrageous. Free speech goes both ways, doesn't it?</p>
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		<title>By: TJIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

You miss the fact that these mass killings generally happen in only one place, gun free zones.

And you miss earlier episodes where mass killings at schools were stopped by armed civilians, not uniformed police officers.  

Psycopaths and insane individuals are a fact of life. They are randomly distributed and the time and location where they decide to embark on a killing spree can&#039;t be predicted.  

Concealed carry gives citizens the ability to stop psycopaths and the insane when they embark on a killing spree.   Concealed carry is a prudent policy and the only effective way to reduce the risk of these attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>You miss the fact that these mass killings generally happen in only one place, gun free zones.</p>
<p>And you miss earlier episodes where mass killings at schools were stopped by armed civilians, not uniformed police officers.  </p>
<p>Psycopaths and insane individuals are a fact of life. They are randomly distributed and the time and location where they decide to embark on a killing spree can't be predicted.  </p>
<p>Concealed carry gives citizens the ability to stop psycopaths and the insane when they embark on a killing spree.   Concealed carry is a prudent policy and the only effective way to reduce the risk of these attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boyd,
Right on. Perhaps the idea of hiring talking heads who specialize in getting one group to hate another group just &lt;em&gt;isn&#039;t such a great idea to begin with...&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boyd,<br />
Right on. Perhaps the idea of hiring talking heads who specialize in getting one group to hate another group just <em>isn't such a great idea to begin with...</em></p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But I find firing people who are hired as controversial commentators for making controversial comments troubling.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Troubling? Well, maybe, but only after I pass through asinine, hypocritical, empty-headed...well, you get the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I find firing people who are hired as controversial commentators for making controversial comments troubling.</p></blockquote>
<p>Troubling? Well, maybe, but only after I pass through asinine, hypocritical, empty-headed...well, you get the idea.</p>
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