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	<title>Comments on: Neo-Con Rumblings</title>
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		<title>By: Leathan Lund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leathan Lund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Brooks is not a hawk, he&#039;s what passes for a hawk at the New York Times. 

Also, I&#039;m not sure how he came by this &quot;sense&quot; that average Iraqis &quot;..want to see us bleed, to get taken down a notch..&quot; or that &quot;..the humiliation of America is a pleasure they can savor today.&quot; These sentiments better characterize people like Michael Moore and much of the staff at the Times. 

With all due respect to Brooks&#039; &quot;sense&quot; of things, actual reporting reveals that the what the majority of Iraqis most want to see is a swift end to the violent outbursts of dead-enders like Muqtada al-Sadr and the Baathists in Falluja.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Brooks is not a hawk, he's what passes for a hawk at the New York Times. </p>
<p>Also, I'm not sure how he came by this "sense" that average Iraqis "..want to see us bleed, to get taken down a notch.." or that "..the humiliation of America is a pleasure they can savor today." These sentiments better characterize people like Michael Moore and much of the staff at the Times. </p>
<p>With all due respect to Brooks' "sense" of things, actual reporting reveals that the what the majority of Iraqis most want to see is a swift end to the violent outbursts of dead-enders like Muqtada al-Sadr and the Baathists in Falluja.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush administration has bungled the Iraq war.  We have the best military in the history of the world and we are losing this war.  I&#039;m amazed.

At one point I supported Bush and I supported the invasion -- now I support a new administration for the simple reason that this one has shown itself to be absolutely INCOMPETENT!  They bungled Afghanistan and are now bungling Iraq.  

Bush is right, the consequences of a failed state will be devastating.  Which is why we need new leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush administration has bungled the Iraq war.  We have the best military in the history of the world and we are losing this war.  I'm amazed.</p>
<p>At one point I supported Bush and I supported the invasion -- now I support a new administration for the simple reason that this one has shown itself to be absolutely INCOMPETENT!  They bungled Afghanistan and are now bungling Iraq.  </p>
<p>Bush is right, the consequences of a failed state will be devastating.  Which is why we need new leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...we are losing this war.&lt;/i&gt;

No, Mike, we are not losing this war. We are not anywhere near losing this war.

Thank God the &quot;Iraq=Vietnam&quot; voices aren&#039;t as unchallenged in 2004 as they were in 1968 when they made out the militarily disastrous Tet offensive to be a defeat, not for our enemies, but for America. Defeatist spin in the news media is nothing new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>...we are losing this war.</i></p>
<p>No, Mike, we are not losing this war. We are not anywhere near losing this war.</p>
<p>Thank God the "Iraq=Vietnam" voices aren't as unchallenged in 2004 as they were in 1968 when they made out the militarily disastrous Tet offensive to be a defeat, not for our enemies, but for America. Defeatist spin in the news media is nothing new.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last I checked, the Bush Administration regularly asks the commanders in Iraq &quot;Do you need more troops?  More supplies?  Tell us and we&#039;ll find a way to get it&quot;, and until recently, they were saying, &quot;More troops wouldn&#039;t help significantly&quot;, and the Bush Administration replied, &quot;Well, OK then&quot;.

And dammit, I can&#039;t see a situation where ANY President could have avoided, if not the screwups here then other screwups equally as bad if not worse.  Heck, I don&#039;t see where any President less micro-managing than Lyndon Johnson could have done ANYTHING.  And that level of micromanaging does cause its own problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last I checked, the Bush Administration regularly asks the commanders in Iraq "Do you need more troops?  More supplies?  Tell us and we'll find a way to get it", and until recently, they were saying, "More troops wouldn't help significantly", and the Bush Administration replied, "Well, OK then".</p>
<p>And dammit, I can't see a situation where ANY President could have avoided, if not the screwups here then other screwups equally as bad if not worse.  Heck, I don't see where any President less micro-managing than Lyndon Johnson could have done ANYTHING.  And that level of micromanaging does cause its own problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel W. Drezner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel W. Drezner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The neocon &lt;i&gt;mea culpas&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
James Joyner observes that multiple neo-conservatives have published op-eds today critical of the Bush Administrationâs handling of Iraq. The kicker is David Brooks&#039; New York Times column. Brooks still thinks the invasion was the right thing to do, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The neocon <i>mea culpas</i></strong><br />
James Joyner observes that multiple neo-conservatives have published op-eds today critical of the Bush Administrationâs handling of Iraq. The kicker is David Brooks' New York Times column. Brooks still thinks the invasion was the right thing to do, but...</p>
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		<title>By: Priorities & Frivolities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priorities & Frivolities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Addressing the &lt;i&gt;Washington Monthly&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
After compiling a laundry list of bad news from Iraq, Kevin Drum issues the following challenge:So I&#039;ll end this post with my usual question to...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Addressing the <i>Washington Monthly</i></strong><br />
After compiling a laundry list of bad news from Iraq, Kevin Drum issues the following challenge:So I'll end this post with my usual question to...</p>
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