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		<title>By: James Joyner - whereIstand.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner - whereIstand.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;I do, however, think it will achieve its desired effects.&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

From Outside the Beltway:  I do, however, think it will achieve its desired effe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>"I do, however, think it will achieve its desired effects."...</strong></p>
<p>From Outside the Beltway:  I do, however, think it will achieve its desired effe...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the Obamas like many on the left like to bash the U.S&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Trying to be honest about our shortcomings as well as our virtues is hardly &quot;bashing&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the Obamas like many on the left like to bash the U.S</p></blockquote>
<p>Trying to be honest about our shortcomings as well as our virtues is hardly "bashing"...</p>
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		<title>By: renderns</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/new_yorker_obama_terrorist_cover_/comment-page-1/#comment-456188</link>
		<dc:creator>renderns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poor drawing and lousy idea. cheap and not funny at all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poor drawing and lousy idea. cheap and not funny at all</p>
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		<title>By: Divided We Stand United We Fall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Divided We Stand United We Fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Its up to you New Yorker! New Yorker!...&lt;/strong&gt;

The real story is the reaction to the cover by Obama, his campaign and his supporters. As always, the tone is set at the top, with staff and supporters taking their cues from the leadership. Obama&#039;s reaction:...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Its up to you New Yorker! New Yorker!...</strong></p>
<p>The real story is the reaction to the cover by Obama, his campaign and his supporters. As always, the tone is set at the top, with staff and supporters taking their cues from the leadership. Obama's reaction:...</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder if you condemn the many tasteless and offensive cartoons of Bush and members of his administration or the left nickname for him of “the Shrub”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve never actually verbally condemned a cartoon of Bush, because a) I don&#039;t view that many and b) when I do see them I&#039;m usually alone.  That said, the vast majority of political cartoons are decidedly unfunny, but still manage not to cross the line into tasteless &amp; offensive territory.

I never liked &quot;the Shrub&quot;, &quot;Commander in Chimp&quot; or anything else like that, one of the many reason I don&#039;t even bother to look at comments at dKos anymore.  Heck, I even hate it when people say &quot;Preznit&quot;, but maybe I&#039;m just uncool.  I generally use either &quot;the President&quot; or &quot;Bush&quot;, sometimes &quot;GW&quot; if I think I need to make a distinction between father and son.  

I may think he&#039;s the worst President of my lifetime, but I&#039;ll still afford him the same respect I&#039;d give to the average guy on the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder if you condemn the many tasteless and offensive cartoons of Bush and members of his administration or the left nickname for him of “the Shrub”.</p></blockquote>
<p>I've never actually verbally condemned a cartoon of Bush, because a) I don't view that many and b) when I do see them I'm usually alone.  That said, the vast majority of political cartoons are decidedly unfunny, but still manage not to cross the line into tasteless &amp; offensive territory.</p>
<p>I never liked "the Shrub", "Commander in Chimp" or anything else like that, one of the many reason I don't even bother to look at comments at dKos anymore.  Heck, I even hate it when people say "Preznit", but maybe I'm just uncool.  I generally use either "the President" or "Bush", sometimes "GW" if I think I need to make a distinction between father and son.  </p>
<p>I may think he's the worst President of my lifetime, but I'll still afford him the same respect I'd give to the average guy on the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur that the New Yorker cover was tasteless. I wonder if you condemn the many tasteless and offensive cartoons of Bush and  members of his  administration or the left nickname for him of “the Shrub”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur that the New Yorker cover was tasteless. I wonder if you condemn the many tasteless and offensive cartoons of Bush and  members of his  administration or the left nickname for him of “the Shrub”.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mulling is finished. Obama and spouse should be given the benefit of the doubt, unless and until either of them slips up--again.

One more chance, but no vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulling is finished. Obama and spouse should be given the benefit of the doubt, unless and until either of them slips up--again.</p>
<p>One more chance, but no vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For example the Obamas like many on the left like to bash the U.S.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Either you&#039;ve been hearing things I haven&#039;t, or we&#039;ve got wildly different ideas about what the word &quot;bash&quot; means.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It would be similar to if John McCain was name Charles Mason.&lt;/blockquote&gt;If he were, and the New Yorker published cover art depicting him as a murderous cult leader, it would be just as offensive and tasteless, and again there would be no truth in the depiction itself.  However, I doubt people would think he&#039;s associated with murderous cults to the extent that they think Obama is associated with terrorists, because Charles Manson isn&#039;t a &quot;foreign&quot; name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For example the Obamas like many on the left like to bash the U.S.</p></blockquote>
<p>Either you've been hearing things I haven't, or we've got wildly different ideas about what the word "bash" means.</p>
<blockquote><p>It would be similar to if John McCain was name Charles Mason.</p></blockquote>
<p>If he were, and the New Yorker published cover art depicting him as a murderous cult leader, it would be just as offensive and tasteless, and again there would be no truth in the depiction itself.  However, I doubt people would think he's associated with murderous cults to the extent that they think Obama is associated with terrorists, because Charles Manson isn't a "foreign" name.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both, I’m sure there are a few that would agree with the overstatement of the cartoon but most would just acknowledge the grain of truth which there is. For example the Obamas like many on the left like to bash the U.S. Does this necessary mean they hate the U.S.?  Some but most at least I hope are just concentrating on the negative instead of the positive.   Do Obama share names of terrorist? Yes. Do people associate those names with terrorist? Yes. So it is both perception and a grain of reality. It would be similar to if John McCain was name Charles Mason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both, I&rsquo;m sure there are a few that would agree with the overstatement of the cartoon but most would just acknowledge the grain of truth which there is. For example the Obamas like many on the left like to bash the U.S. Does this necessary mean they hate the U.S.?  Some but most at least I hope are just concentrating on the negative instead of the positive.   Do Obama share names of terrorist? Yes. Do people associate those names with terrorist? Yes. So it is both perception and a grain of reality. It would be similar to if John McCain was name Charles Mason.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The discussion has been if the image contains any resemblance of truth not if any of it should matter.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Those names however for most U.S. citizens bring up images of terrorist not philosophers. Is this right? No&lt;/blockquote&gt;And you seem to agree with me, that the &quot;truth&quot; is that some Americans believe the depiction, not that the depiction itself contains truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The discussion has been if the image contains any resemblance of truth not if any of it should matter.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Those names however for most U.S. citizens bring up images of terrorist not philosophers. Is this right? No</p></blockquote>
<p>And you seem to agree with me, that the "truth" is that some Americans believe the depiction, not that the depiction itself contains truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I read, Obama’s father was many things including at one time an atheist and at another time a Muslim. Yes we have both said his Obama’s names are common names in certain part of the world. Those names however for most U.S. citizens bring up images of terrorist not philosophers. Is this right? No but it is fact. I couldn’t care less if he is or is not Muslim or what his names are. The discussion has been if the image contains any resemblance of truth not if any of it should matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I read, Obama&rsquo;s father was many things including at one time an atheist and at another time a Muslim. Yes we have both said his Obama&rsquo;s names are common names in certain part of the world. Those names however for most U.S. citizens bring up images of terrorist not philosophers. Is this right? No but it is fact. I couldn&rsquo;t care less if he is or is not Muslim or what his names are. The discussion has been if the image contains any resemblance of truth not if any of it should matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For an Obamite blog watcher I thought you would know a lttle bit more about his past.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, I know about his past.  The thing is, the US justice system declared him innocent, he is currently a respected and productive member of society, and I see nothing wrong with anybody associating with him in a philanthropic, anti-poverty program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For an Obamite blog watcher I thought you would know a lttle bit more about his past.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I know about his past.  The thing is, the US justice system declared him innocent, he is currently a respected and productive member of society, and I see nothing wrong with anybody associating with him in a philanthropic, anti-poverty program.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect it&#039;s a matter of admitting it, actually.

Do the word &quot;Bomb the pentegon&quot; mean anything to you?

(I suspect I&#039;ve tripped a filter or three over at Langley with that one)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect it's a matter of admitting it, actually.</p>
<p>Do the word "Bomb the pentegon" mean anything to you?</p>
<p>(I suspect I've tripped a filter or three over at Langley with that one)</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayres

&quot;You mean the Distinguished Professor of Education from the University of Illinois? I hadn&#039;t realized that he and Obama had much of a relationship&quot;

For an Obamite blog watcher I thought you would know a lttle bit more about his past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayres</p>
<p>"You mean the Distinguished Professor of Education from the University of Illinois? I hadn't realized that he and Obama had much of a relationship"</p>
<p>For an Obamite blog watcher I thought you would know a lttle bit more about his past.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No &#039;secret society&#039; involved. Ever hear of Bill Ayers, as an example?&lt;/blockquote&gt;You mean the Distinguished Professor of Education from the University of Illinois?  I hadn&#039;t realized that he and Obama had much of a relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No 'secret society' involved. Ever hear of Bill Ayers, as an example?</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean the Distinguished Professor of Education from the University of Illinois?  I hadn't realized that he and Obama had much of a relationship.</p>
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