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		<title>By: wa caucus &#124; Shenyurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>wa caucus &#124; Shenyurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to sign a statement saying you are only doing one and not for the other party So the candidates read more -&gt;Spokane Spokesman-Review says:Caucus Washington state s precinct caucuses take place Saturday State [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to sign a statement saying you are only doing one and not for the other party So the candidates read more -&gt;Spokane Spokesman-Review says:Caucus Washington state s precinct caucuses take place Saturday State [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano pronounced,

&lt;blockquote&gt;don&#039;t hold your breath, Laura.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have modified the post, but probably not enough to satisfy you. There is a belief systems among party partisans in WA as to what happened in the 2004 Governors&#039; race (both sides). On a total number basis, King County was where most of the issues occurred, though some much smaller counties  had a higher percentage of issues. 

WA State has a confusing Primary system. As Hillary said last night (roughly), &quot;Some of you have gotten ballots, and I&#039;m not sure why, but caucus for me on Saturday.&quot; Um, a voter initiative in 1988 requires a vote, so it is the law, even if there are no delegates selected that way by the Democratic Party. So there is indeed lots of confusion in WA State. 

Even worse, there are reports of over 25% INVALIDATION of primary votes so far because the voter&#039;s did not select a party on the mail-in ballots - not that it matters on the Democratic selection process.

As for me, I read both Sound Politics and Horses&#039; Ass. And Chris Gregoire is the Governor (childish what some folks say, Rossi conceded).

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/2008/PPVPED01Final.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WA Voters&#039; Pamphlet&lt;/a&gt; (see page 18)

Does any other state have official myspace election reminders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano pronounced,</p>
<blockquote><p>don't hold your breath, Laura.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have modified the post, but probably not enough to satisfy you. There is a belief systems among party partisans in WA as to what happened in the 2004 Governors' race (both sides). On a total number basis, King County was where most of the issues occurred, though some much smaller counties  had a higher percentage of issues. </p>
<p>WA State has a confusing Primary system. As Hillary said last night (roughly), "Some of you have gotten ballots, and I'm not sure why, but caucus for me on Saturday." Um, a voter initiative in 1988 requires a vote, so it is the law, even if there are no delegates selected that way by the Democratic Party. So there is indeed lots of confusion in WA State. </p>
<p>Even worse, there are reports of over 25% INVALIDATION of primary votes so far because the voter's did not select a party on the mail-in ballots - not that it matters on the Democratic selection process.</p>
<p>As for me, I read both Sound Politics and Horses' Ass. And Chris Gregoire is the Governor (childish what some folks say, Rossi conceded).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/2008/PPVPED01Final.pdf" rel="nofollow">WA Voters' Pamphlet</a> (see page 18)</p>
<p>Does any other state have official myspace election reminders?</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you have any integrity you will correct your post.&quot;

don&#039;t hold your breath, Laura.

They need to keep the meme alive - it is the one thing they hope will be able to sustain them in the next governors race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"If you have any integrity you will correct your post."</p>
<p>don't hold your breath, Laura.</p>
<p>They need to keep the meme alive - it is the one thing they hope will be able to sustain them in the next governors race.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very misinformed.  There was no voter fraud.  The Republican Sec. of State found no fraud.  The Republican judge who reviewed the case brought by the R party found no fraud.  One of the prosecutors driven out of office for failing to act as a political agent for Karl Rove was driven out because he, a Republican, would not, in his words &quot;drag innocent people before a grand jury&quot; in a politically motivated witch hunt over imaginary fraud.  If you have any integrity you will correct your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very misinformed.  There was no voter fraud.  The Republican Sec. of State found no fraud.  The Republican judge who reviewed the case brought by the R party found no fraud.  One of the prosecutors driven out of office for failing to act as a political agent for Karl Rove was driven out because he, a Republican, would not, in his words "drag innocent people before a grand jury" in a politically motivated witch hunt over imaginary fraud.  If you have any integrity you will correct your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem pretty mis-informed about Washington state politics.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;A State has Caucuses on Saturday, and a primary vote on Tuesday (you have to sign a statement saying you are only doing one, and not for the other party).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Wrong.  Voters can participate in both the caucus and primary, but must do so within the same party. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Seattle, Seattle, Seattle&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Well, DUH!   That is, by far, where the most people are.   When &lt;i&gt;counties&lt;/i&gt; (rather than people) start voting or caucusing, I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll see a change....

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Seattle is home of egregious voter fraud in 2004 (King County).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This is a myth (where do you wingdings get this stuff???).  There were some illegal votes found in the state in 2004---a tiny percentage of the total vote---but they were spread out all over the state.  Initially, the Republicans focused on finding illegal votes only in King County (perhaps leading to your mistaken idea)  But, the Democrats found illegal votes in other counties.  In the end, King County didn&#039;t even have the largest percentage of illegal votes.   There were four small counties (Asotin, Pend Oreille, San Juan, and Wahkiakum) in which no illegal votes were found---but it is not clear that anyone was even looking in these counties.   And there were four counties (Benton, Yakima, Ferry, and Grant) that had a higher error rate (i.e. illegal vote/ballot cast) than King county.

Then, there was a trial held in June of 2005 in which the Republicans opened by claiming they would prove election fraud.   In the end, the trial that cost each party two million bucks, yielded no evidence whatsoever of election fraud in King County or any other County in the state.  They only showed ordinary errors of the type found whenever an election is closely scrutinized.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Dean Logan is a hated figure in WA politics, viewed by some as incompetent - that LA hired him is considered amazing - see current Drudge links).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Nope...this is more wingnut mythology.  There is a faction of rabid righties who vilified Dean Logan, but almost no one else.  Given that they are a minority of state residents (and certainly a small minority of King County residents) your statement is numerically in error.   In fact, during the trial, we learned that among his peers (election directors in other counties) Dean Logan was highly respected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem pretty mis-informed about Washington state politics.</p>
<p><i>"A State has Caucuses on Saturday, and a primary vote on Tuesday (you have to sign a statement saying you are only doing one, and not for the other party)."</i></p>
<p>Wrong.  Voters can participate in both the caucus and primary, but must do so within the same party. </p>
<p><i>"Seattle, Seattle, Seattle"</i></p>
<p>Well, DUH!   That is, by far, where the most people are.   When <i>counties</i> (rather than people) start voting or caucusing, I'm sure we'll see a change....</p>
<p><i>"Seattle is home of egregious voter fraud in 2004 (King County)."</i></p>
<p>This is a myth (where do you wingdings get this stuff???).  There were some illegal votes found in the state in 2004---a tiny percentage of the total vote---but they were spread out all over the state.  Initially, the Republicans focused on finding illegal votes only in King County (perhaps leading to your mistaken idea)  But, the Democrats found illegal votes in other counties.  In the end, King County didn't even have the largest percentage of illegal votes.   There were four small counties (Asotin, Pend Oreille, San Juan, and Wahkiakum) in which no illegal votes were found---but it is not clear that anyone was even looking in these counties.   And there were four counties (Benton, Yakima, Ferry, and Grant) that had a higher error rate (i.e. illegal vote/ballot cast) than King county.</p>
<p>Then, there was a trial held in June of 2005 in which the Republicans opened by claiming they would prove election fraud.   In the end, the trial that cost each party two million bucks, yielded no evidence whatsoever of election fraud in King County or any other County in the state.  They only showed ordinary errors of the type found whenever an election is closely scrutinized.</p>
<p><i>"Dean Logan is a hated figure in WA politics, viewed by some as incompetent - that LA hired him is considered amazing - see current Drudge links)."</i></p>
<p>Nope...this is more wingnut mythology.  There is a faction of rabid righties who vilified Dean Logan, but almost no one else.  Given that they are a minority of state residents (and certainly a small minority of King County residents) your statement is numerically in error.   In fact, during the trial, we learned that among his peers (election directors in other counties) Dean Logan was highly respected.</p>
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