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	<title>Comments on: No Grunting Allowed at the Gym</title>
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		<title>By: Diamond</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/no_grunting_allowed_at_the_gym_/comment-page-1/#comment-104792</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course PF doesn&#039;t want grunting. Their members don&#039;t lift heavy weights. They exercise in futility. If you lift heavy, that is productively for strength gains, then your breathing changes, you have to pressurize your abdomen and that sometimes  results in a grunt. If you lift pencils all day you don&#039;t have to do that. Any of these pansies ever push a car in the snow?! OMG!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course PF doesn't want grunting. Their members don't lift heavy weights. They exercise in futility. If you lift heavy, that is productively for strength gains, then your breathing changes, you have to pressurize your abdomen and that sometimes  results in a grunt. If you lift pencils all day you don't have to do that. Any of these pansies ever push a car in the snow?! OMG!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Digger</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/no_grunting_allowed_at_the_gym_/comment-page-1/#comment-104752</link>
		<dc:creator>Digger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Clearly, Argibay is not their target client and likely alienates those who are. He should have read the membership agreement more carefully and chosen another gym. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe he can&#039;t read *rimshot*... thank you I&#039;ll be here all week!

On a semi-serious note...

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In my town THREE women’s only fitness clubs, with no respectable alternative for men. Honestly, I don’t know how these types of places have managed to stay out of court. Maybe women are just more litigous? 
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Maybe there&#039;s not a market for the men and the businesses have failed? And enough with suing. Leave the poor semi chubby women  who are trying to get in shape and women who don&#039;t like to get ooogled alone.

Go join &quot;The Masters&quot; lawsuit and keep it men only.

These attacks on privately owned businesses are ridiculous.</description>
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Clearly, Argibay is not their target client and likely alienates those who are. He should have read the membership agreement more carefully and chosen another gym.
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<p>Maybe he can't read *rimshot*... thank you I'll be here all week!</p>
<p>On a semi-serious note...</p>
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In my town THREE women&rsquo;s only fitness clubs, with no respectable alternative for men. Honestly, I don&rsquo;t know how these types of places have managed to stay out of court. Maybe women are just more litigous?
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<p>Maybe there's not a market for the men and the businesses have failed? And enough with suing. Leave the poor semi chubby women  who are trying to get in shape and women who don't like to get ooogled alone.</p>
<p>Go join "The Masters" lawsuit and keep it men only.</p>
<p>These attacks on privately owned businesses are ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of loser is still dealing with simple bullying during his middle school years when he is in his fifties? Many of us weren&#039;t treated well back then, get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of loser is still dealing with simple bullying during his middle school years when he is in his fifties? Many of us weren't treated well back then, get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/no_grunting_allowed_at_the_gym_/comment-page-1/#comment-104654</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the problem is many of these &quot;gyms&quot; making a business out of catering to women who pay, but do not workout.  Good business sense, but bad news for the guys who actually lift the weights, sans gossip hour. (Oh my gawd, with that guy grunting over there I can&#039;t even hear you tell me about what happened on Desperate Housewives last night!)

In my town THREE women&#039;s only fitness clubs, with no respectable alternative for men.  Honestly, I don&#039;t know how these types of places have managed to stay out of court.  Maybe women are just more litigous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem is many of these "gyms" making a business out of catering to women who pay, but do not workout.  Good business sense, but bad news for the guys who actually lift the weights, sans gossip hour. (Oh my gawd, with that guy grunting over there I can't even hear you tell me about what happened on Desperate Housewives last night!)</p>
<p>In my town THREE women's only fitness clubs, with no respectable alternative for men.  Honestly, I don't know how these types of places have managed to stay out of court.  Maybe women are just more litigous?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If them&#039;s the rules, then them&#039;s the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If them's the rules, then them's the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/no_grunting_allowed_at_the_gym_/comment-page-1/#comment-104622</link>
		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the various players in tennis complaining because Monica Seles&#039; grunting, when she hit the ball distracted them.

Honestly, hard work often results in a grunt, a grunt free gym is just stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the various players in tennis complaining because Monica Seles' grunting, when she hit the ball distracted them.</p>
<p>Honestly, hard work often results in a grunt, a grunt free gym is just stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/no_grunting_allowed_at_the_gym_/comment-page-1/#comment-104620</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>demand a refund of dues and an apology from planet fitness for pretending to be a gym instead of a dating club for boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>demand a refund of dues and an apology from planet fitness for pretending to be a gym instead of a dating club for boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,
What part of my comment &quot;leave and find another gym&quot; did you not understand? Want to grunt, look elsewhere. Planet Fitness has it&#039;s rule for everyone to live with if you want to be a member.

Also, if a person has problems with evoking memories of some &quot;musclehead triggering all those middle-school-gym-class memories,&quot; they should be spending more time watching Oprah and Dr. Phil than they do at the gym.
As for my other comments, grab a dictionary, look up sarcasm, and try to get over it.

Got to go now, down to the fitness center, hope these lavender sweats don&#039;t make my ass look too big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,<br />
What part of my comment "leave and find another gym" did you not understand? Want to grunt, look elsewhere. Planet Fitness has it's rule for everyone to live with if you want to be a member.</p>
<p>Also, if a person has problems with evoking memories of some "musclehead triggering all those middle-school-gym-class memories," they should be spending more time watching Oprah and Dr. Phil than they do at the gym.<br />
As for my other comments, grab a dictionary, look up sarcasm, and try to get over it.</p>
<p>Got to go now, down to the fitness center, hope these lavender sweats don't make my ass look too big.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/no_grunting_allowed_at_the_gym_/comment-page-1/#comment-104603</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triumph:  We don&#039;t disagree.  Their business model is  one that&#039;s not going to be particularly attractive to, say, football players and Navy SEALS.  But it&#039;s certainly their right to cater to whomever they wish.  They&#039;re also likely right that by having no rules they may well drive off more people than they avoid offending. 

Clearly, Argibay is not their target client and likely alienates those who are.  He should have read the membership agreement more carefully and chosen another gym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triumph:  We don't disagree.  Their business model is  one that's not going to be particularly attractive to, say, football players and Navy SEALS.  But it's certainly their right to cater to whomever they wish.  They're also likely right that by having no rules they may well drive off more people than they avoid offending. </p>
<p>Clearly, Argibay is not their target client and likely alienates those who are.  He should have read the membership agreement more carefully and chosen another gym.</p>
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		<title>By: lily</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/no_grunting_allowed_at_the_gym_/comment-page-1/#comment-104599</link>
		<dc:creator>lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For shear pornography try listening to (without watching)  a tennis match.  Ooooo!  Ahhhhh!  Ohhhhhhh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For shear pornography try listening to (without watching)  a tennis match.  Ooooo!  Ahhhhh!  Ohhhhhhh!</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/no_grunting_allowed_at_the_gym_/comment-page-1/#comment-104598</link>
		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fausta and Dan Collins are rightly ridiculing these policies as politically correct and anti-masculine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No--they are simply devised to satisfy their market.  Planet Fitness is A BUSINESS--as such its main purpose is to insure profitability, not to pursue any political agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fausta and Dan Collins are rightly ridiculing these policies as politically correct and anti-masculine.</p></blockquote>
<p>No--they are simply devised to satisfy their market.  Planet Fitness is A BUSINESS--as such its main purpose is to insure profitability, not to pursue any political agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While their disdain for the Planet Fitness model is evident, I think both James and Eneils are saying exactly the same thing you are, Brian: find the gym that suits your style. If it&#039;s Planet Fitness&#039;s &quot;anti-testosterone&quot; atmosphere you&#039;re looking for, then that&#039;s where you need to be.

For Albert Argibay, that&#039;s apparently not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While their disdain for the Planet Fitness model is evident, I think both James and Eneils are saying exactly the same thing you are, Brian: find the gym that suits your style. If it's Planet Fitness's "anti-testosterone" atmosphere you're looking for, then that's where you need to be.</p>
<p>For Albert Argibay, that's apparently not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What part of &quot;target clientele of novice exercisers&quot; is going misunderstood by the people kvetching about pussification?  The people who need to grunt have plenty of places to work out, whereas some schlump in their fifties who&#039;s been told by their doctor to get themselves to a gym for their first time in their life has enough to worry about in an unfamiliar environment without some musclehead triggering all those middle-school-gym-class memories.

If the &quot;no grunting&quot; rules help more people get fit overall, isn&#039;t that the best outcome for everybody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What part of "target clientele of novice exercisers" is going misunderstood by the people kvetching about pussification?  The people who need to grunt have plenty of places to work out, whereas some schlump in their fifties who's been told by their doctor to get themselves to a gym for their first time in their life has enough to worry about in an unfamiliar environment without some musclehead triggering all those middle-school-gym-class memories.</p>
<p>If the "no grunting" rules help more people get fit overall, isn't that the best outcome for everybody?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Ross @ Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Ross @ Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;If the New York Times were a real newspaper......&lt;/strong&gt;

...it would look something like this....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>If the New York Times were a real newspaper......</strong></p>
<p>...it would look something like this....</p>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Knuckleheads of the Day award...&lt;/strong&gt;

Today&#039;s winners are Planet Fitness and their manager of the Wappinger Falls gym, Carol Palazzolo....</description>
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<p>Today's winners are Planet Fitness and their manager of the Wappinger Falls gym, Carol Palazzolo....</p>
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