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		<title>By: The Strategic MC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/north_korea_nukes_not_an_imminent_threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1052831</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strategic MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 20:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...most non-&lt;em&gt;Muslims&lt;/em&gt;...</description>
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		<title>By: The Strategic MC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/north_korea_nukes_not_an_imminent_threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1052701</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strategic MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We crossed that Rubicon many years ago with the tacit &quot;wink&quot; at Israel...&quot;

No major disagreement with this.

Unfortunately, pragmatism trumps principle. As the ultimate guarantor of Israeli security, Israeli nukes relieve the U.S. of some of that burden. I seem to recall that Israeli offered to openly declare and relinquish her nuclear arsenal in exchange for a formal security pact with the U.S. In response, we tacitly &quot;told&quot; Israel that she could keep her nukes.     

While it doesn&#039;t make it right, Israeli is considered by most non-Arabs to be a responsible possessor of nuclear weapons. Additionally, her development and possession of a nuclear weapons capability most probably precedes the NPT, to which, by the way, she is not a signatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"We crossed that Rubicon many years ago with the tacit "wink" at Israel..."</p>
<p>No major disagreement with this.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, pragmatism trumps principle. As the ultimate guarantor of Israeli security, Israeli nukes relieve the U.S. of some of that burden. I seem to recall that Israeli offered to openly declare and relinquish her nuclear arsenal in exchange for a formal security pact with the U.S. In response, we tacitly "told" Israel that she could keep her nukes.     </p>
<p>While it doesn't make it right, Israeli is considered by most non-Arabs to be a responsible possessor of nuclear weapons. Additionally, her development and possession of a nuclear weapons capability most probably precedes the NPT, to which, by the way, she is not a signatory.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the parallel reality which we call Obamaland, somehow the Nork&#039;s growing nuclear ambitions are somehow not a threat, but anthropogenic global warming is.  I suppose this what the MSM will laud as &quot;judgement.&quot;

It would be assuring to believe that the Obamatards had a plan, but Obama had plan to fix the economy, remember the Stimulus.  Plans based on fictional reality don&#039;t work in the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the parallel reality which we call Obamaland, somehow the Nork's growing nuclear ambitions are somehow not a threat, but anthropogenic global warming is.  I suppose this what the MSM will laud as "judgement."</p>
<p>It would be assuring to believe that the Obamatards had a plan, but Obama had plan to fix the economy, remember the Stimulus.  Plans based on fictional reality don't work in the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fearing the confrontation that would result, we have turned a blind eye to violations of the NPT.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

  We crossed that Rubicon many years ago with the tacit &quot;wink&quot; at Israel obtaining nuclear weapons and complicity with her ambiguous status as a nuclear power.  Same with the Indian and Pakistani nuclear programs, and now rewarding India&#039;s violation of NPT with access to nuclear technology.  I should also mention noncompliance with Article VI of the NPT which states all states should &lt;i&gt;undertake to pursue &quot;negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament&quot;, and towards a &quot;Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fearing the confrontation that would result, we have turned a blind eye to violations of the NPT.</p></blockquote>
<p>  We crossed that Rubicon many years ago with the tacit "wink" at Israel obtaining nuclear weapons and complicity with her ambiguous status as a nuclear power.  Same with the Indian and Pakistani nuclear programs, and now rewarding India's violation of NPT with access to nuclear technology.  I should also mention noncompliance with Article VI of the NPT which states all states should <i>undertake to pursue "negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament", and towards a "Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control".</i></p>
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		<title>By: The Strategic MC</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strategic MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 04:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and back to the thread.

While I also agree with Jones and Walt, I think that they &quot;talk the talk&quot; about countering proliferation, but I question whether this administration will &quot;walk the walk&quot; in stopping the proliferators. Will we call N.K.&#039;s bluff wrt the PSI?  

Fearing the confrontation that would result, we have turned a blind eye to violations of the NPT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and back to the thread.</p>
<p>While I also agree with Jones and Walt, I think that they "talk the talk" about countering proliferation, but I question whether this administration will "walk the walk" in stopping the proliferators. Will we call N.K.'s bluff wrt the PSI?  </p>
<p>Fearing the confrontation that would result, we have turned a blind eye to violations of the NPT.</p>
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		<title>By: The Strategic MC</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strategic MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 04:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh...

Actually, I&#039;m not afraid of much, especially the NORKs. As someone posted earlier, they haven&#039;t put together the complete package. If we keep allowing them practice shots, they&#039;ll get there in time.

Regardless, I have a lot of confidence in the countermeasures already in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh...</p>
<p>Actually, I'm not afraid of much, especially the NORKs. As someone posted earlier, they haven't put together the complete package. If we keep allowing them practice shots, they'll get there in time.</p>
<p>Regardless, I have a lot of confidence in the countermeasures already in place.</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 04:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: The Strategic MC May 28, 2009 22:57 

My my, how impressive!  Tell me, are you scared of NK nukes?  Have you built a bomb shelter yet?  Oh wait, a bomb shelter wouldn&#039;t do you any good...nevermind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: The Strategic MC May 28, 2009 22:57 </p>
<p>My my, how impressive!  Tell me, are you scared of NK nukes?  Have you built a bomb shelter yet?  Oh wait, a bomb shelter wouldn't do you any good...nevermind...</p>
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		<title>By: The Strategic MC</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Strategic MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That was a great Frederick Forsyth plot device...who knows, maybe someone in North Korea reads his novels...&quot;

Don&#039;t know about the folks in Pyongyang, but the people inside the Beltway must read his stuff. 

Ever hear of Maritime Domain Awareness? Either the concept or the technology program?

Multinational and U.S. inter-agency initiative to protect against, among other things, the smuggling of WMDs into U.S. ports. We pay particular attention to containerized cargo.

The technology alone is funded to the tune of 10s of millions on an annual basis. Neat stuff, right out of a high-tech thriller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"That was a great Frederick Forsyth plot device...who knows, maybe someone in North Korea reads his novels..."</p>
<p>Don't know about the folks in Pyongyang, but the people inside the Beltway must read his stuff. </p>
<p>Ever hear of Maritime Domain Awareness? Either the concept or the technology program?</p>
<p>Multinational and U.S. inter-agency initiative to protect against, among other things, the smuggling of WMDs into U.S. ports. We pay particular attention to containerized cargo.</p>
<p>The technology alone is funded to the tune of 10s of millions on an annual basis. Neat stuff, right out of a high-tech thriller.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW...
if it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;declasse&lt;/em&gt; to mention Bush&#039;s myriad failures four months after he left office does that mean the wingnut right has set a date to stop blaming things on Clinton?  Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW...<br />
if it's <em>declasse</em> to mention Bush's myriad failures four months after he left office does that mean the wingnut right has set a date to stop blaming things on Clinton?  Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/north_korea_nukes_not_an_imminent_threat/comment-page-1/#comment-1052415</link>
		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 02:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thanks for providing me an example of liberals blaming Bush, Tlaloc. Glad I can count on you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No problem, man.  If you enjoy tying your personal credibility to the Bush quest for mythical WMD I&#039;m only too happy to work the knot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thanks for providing me an example of liberals blaming Bush, Tlaloc. Glad I can count on you.</p></blockquote>
<p>No problem, man.  If you enjoy tying your personal credibility to the Bush quest for mythical WMD I'm only too happy to work the knot.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Florack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Florack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 02:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for providing me an example of liberals blaming Bush, Tlaloc. Glad I can count on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for providing me an example of liberals blaming Bush, Tlaloc. Glad I can count on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nah. It&#039;s all the fault of Bushcheney McHitler. That excuse has always worked (They think) before...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m getting this weird Deja Vu.  Last time somebody claimed there was going to be a mushroom cloud above an American city they &lt;em&gt;too&lt;/em&gt; were full of ^%$#.

We were told that Iraq had WMD, no ifs ands or buts.  They have tons of anthrax and nerve gas plus an attempt to reconstitute a nuclear program.

Remember what we found?  Freaking &lt;strong&gt;balsa&lt;/strong&gt; wood drones.  

Oh yeah.  Good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nah. It's all the fault of Bushcheney McHitler. That excuse has always worked (They think) before...</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm getting this weird Deja Vu.  Last time somebody claimed there was going to be a mushroom cloud above an American city they <em>too</em> were full of ^%$#.</p>
<p>We were told that Iraq had WMD, no ifs ands or buts.  They have tons of anthrax and nerve gas plus an attempt to reconstitute a nuclear program.</p>
<p>Remember what we found?  Freaking <strong>balsa</strong> wood drones.  </p>
<p>Oh yeah.  Good times.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Florack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Florack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess a mushroom cloud rising over a large American city might finally wake some of the left up&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nah. It&#039;s all the fault of Bushcheney McHitler. That excuse has always worked (They think) before...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess a mushroom cloud rising over a large American city might finally wake some of the left up</p></blockquote>
<p>Nah. It's all the fault of Bushcheney McHitler. That excuse has always worked (They think) before...</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A twenty foot ocean container would make a fine delivery device. Who needs ballistic missiles?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That was a great Frederick Forsyth plot device...who knows, maybe someone in North Korea reads his novels...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A twenty foot ocean container would make a fine delivery device. Who needs ballistic missiles?</p></blockquote>
<p>That was a great Frederick Forsyth plot device...who knows, maybe someone in North Korea reads his novels...</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A twenty foot ocean container would make a fine delivery device.  Who needs ballistic missiles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A twenty foot ocean container would make a fine delivery device.  Who needs ballistic missiles?</p>
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