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	<title>Comments on: NOVAK-GATE IV: WAPO VS. NYT</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Aylward</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak-gate_iv_wapo_vs_nyt/comment-page-1/#comment-6389</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Aylward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WaPo senese a &quot;Watergate&quot;.  No one wants to be the one the fumbles that ball, whether it is worth running with or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WaPo senese a "Watergate".  No one wants to be the one the fumbles that ball, whether it is worth running with or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NYT&#039;s problem is most likely that Blair was their only source in Washington; I mean, he was probably 50 different unnamed &quot;senior officials.&quot;

I&#039;m joking... I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NYT's problem is most likely that Blair was their only source in Washington; I mean, he was probably 50 different unnamed "senior officials."</p>
<p>I'm joking... I think.</p>
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		<title>By: John Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll add that this morning on CNN (&lt;i&gt;American Morning&lt;/i&gt;) the Plame Affair was the lead story, while there was absolutely no mention of it on NBC&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Today Show&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll add that this morning on CNN (<i>American Morning</i>) the Plame Affair was the lead story, while there was absolutely no mention of it on NBC's <i>Today Show</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any facts to this story at all? Wislon&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mideasti.org/html/bio-wilson.html&quot;&gt;on-line bio&lt;/a&gt; clearly lists Valarie Plame as his wife.

What bothers me the most about this affair is that the entire story is constructed by the news media using anonymous sources. In the blogosphere, we insist on links, and sources, so that we can &quot;fact check your ass&quot;. We have done that on many occasions and revealed factual and philosophical errors, and plagiarism, among other &quot;crimes of fact&quot;. Here we have an allegation that may or may not be a crime, but with no government official on the record providing any facts. We have Bob Novak&#039;s word for the original story, and wronged husband Wilson&#039;s complaint about it, and that is all. If this were a story originating in the Internet, it would have died a long time ago for lack of sourcing. Why is it that the news media can do this, over and over with many stories, and not be called on it? It&#039;s not news if it cannot be fact checked, is it?

Plame has to have been a covert intelligence officer whose name is classified for there to have been a crime. Several places have quotes that aledge that she is an analyst, which would make the disclosure not criminal. In any event, we need to know her position at the CIA at the time, as well as who made the original statements to Novak (and if you read him carefully, he does not say White House officials). Indeed, if you read him, he states that the CIA itself confirmed her employment there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any facts to this story at all? Wislon's <a href="http://www.mideasti.org/html/bio-wilson.html">on-line bio</a> clearly lists Valarie Plame as his wife.</p>
<p>What bothers me the most about this affair is that the entire story is constructed by the news media using anonymous sources. In the blogosphere, we insist on links, and sources, so that we can "fact check your ass". We have done that on many occasions and revealed factual and philosophical errors, and plagiarism, among other "crimes of fact". Here we have an allegation that may or may not be a crime, but with no government official on the record providing any facts. We have Bob Novak's word for the original story, and wronged husband Wilson's complaint about it, and that is all. If this were a story originating in the Internet, it would have died a long time ago for lack of sourcing. Why is it that the news media can do this, over and over with many stories, and not be called on it? It's not news if it cannot be fact checked, is it?</p>
<p>Plame has to have been a covert intelligence officer whose name is classified for there to have been a crime. Several places have quotes that aledge that she is an analyst, which would make the disclosure not criminal. In any event, we need to know her position at the CIA at the time, as well as who made the original statements to Novak (and if you read him carefully, he does not say White House officials). Indeed, if you read him, he states that the CIA itself confirmed her employment there.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It actually goes beyond that Chuck...

Not only do we have those infamous &quot;anonymous sources&quot; but we keep hearing the motivation was revenge....

We have not even established what was said or who said it, pinning it on revenge is yet another leap. 

There is a stunning lack of facts here. I don&#039;t know how it will turn out, but I find it hysterical that the delusional left have already said there will be convictions over this because &quot;there is too much blood in the water.&quot; 

All we KNOW for now is that the WaPo has hyped a story based on no hard facts. If I were a lefty I&#039;d be careful before I started jumping for glee.

We don&#039;t know if this is a scandal or a news cycle. Declaring victory just makes people look foolish.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It actually goes beyond that Chuck...</p>
<p>Not only do we have those infamous "anonymous sources" but we keep hearing the motivation was revenge....</p>
<p>We have not even established what was said or who said it, pinning it on revenge is yet another leap. </p>
<p>There is a stunning lack of facts here. I don't know how it will turn out, but I find it hysterical that the delusional left have already said there will be convictions over this because "there is too much blood in the water." </p>
<p>All we KNOW for now is that the WaPo has hyped a story based on no hard facts. If I were a lefty I'd be careful before I started jumping for glee.</p>
<p>We don't know if this is a scandal or a news cycle. Declaring victory just makes people look foolish.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From AP:   

Wilson backtracked Monday, saying he had not meant to imply that Rove &quot;was the source or the authorizer, just that I thought that it came from the White House, and Karl Rove was the personification of the White House political operation.&quot; 

So there&#039;s nothing behind this so far except for some finger pointing by the Left trying to make something out of nothing and they are already backtracking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From AP:   </p>
<p>Wilson backtracked Monday, saying he had not meant to imply that Rove "was the source or the authorizer, just that I thought that it came from the White House, and Karl Rove was the personification of the White House political operation." </p>
<p>So there's nothing behind this so far except for some finger pointing by the Left trying to make something out of nothing and they are already backtracking.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Plame Coverage&lt;/strong&gt;
Following on James of OTB&#039;s discussion (here, here, and elsewhere)of the lack of coverage of the Plame story, it is noteworthy that a Google News search on &quot;Plame&quot; on shows a handful of entries, and WaPo and Slate are the...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Plame Coverage</strong><br />
Following on James of OTB's discussion (here, here, and elsewhere)of the lack of coverage of the Plame story, it is noteworthy that a Google News search on "Plame" on shows a handful of entries, and WaPo and Slate are the...</p>
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		<title>By: Backcountry Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak-gate_iv_wapo_vs_nyt/comment-page-1/#comment-6396</link>
		<dc:creator>Backcountry Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Valerie Plame&lt;/strong&gt;
Phil Carter has some news and analysis from earlier regarding the Bob Novak article that reportedly blew Valerie Plame&#039;s cover as a CIA operative because her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, was a critic of Bush administration policy. Kevin Mc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Valerie Plame</strong><br />
Phil Carter has some news and analysis from earlier regarding the Bob Novak article that reportedly blew Valerie Plame's cover as a CIA operative because her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, was a critic of Bush administration policy. Kevin Mc...</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak-gate_iv_wapo_vs_nyt/comment-page-1/#comment-6397</link>
		<dc:creator>PoliBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Comment Response&lt;/strong&gt;
Rather than respond in the comments section, here&#039;s a response to some of the commentary on the Plame affair--aimed at JohnC mostly, but to a more general audience as well: If you read carefully what I have written you will...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Comment Response</strong><br />
Rather than respond in the comments section, here's a response to some of the commentary on the Plame affair--aimed at JohnC mostly, but to a more general audience as well: If you read carefully what I have written you will...</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak-gate_iv_wapo_vs_nyt/comment-page-1/#comment-6398</link>
		<dc:creator>PoliBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Comment Response&lt;/strong&gt;
Rather than respond in the comments section, here&#039;s a response to some of the commentary on the Plame affair--aimed at JohnC mostly, but to a more general audience as well: If you read carefully what I have written you will...

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Rather than respond in the comments section, here's a response to some of the commentary on the Plame affair--aimed at JohnC mostly, but to a more general audience as well: If you read carefully what I have written you will...</p>
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