<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Novak on Plame Leak</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/</link>
	<description>Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:42:30 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137778</link>
		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137778</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What of the leaker?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There was more than one leaker.  
Libby also leaked the information before it was published.  It appears what he did was at the behest of Cheney then he lied under oath and obstructed justice to protect him and probably Rove (also a leaker of this information).

Why is it you have no outrage over the outing of a covert CIA operative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What of the leaker?</p></blockquote>
<p>There was more than one leaker.<br />
Libby also leaked the information before it was published.  It appears what he did was at the behest of Cheney then he lied under oath and obstructed justice to protect him and probably Rove (also a leaker of this information).</p>
<p>Why is it you have no outrage over the outing of a covert CIA operative?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137757</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137757</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The nature of perjury and obstruction of justice is that they prevent effective prosecution of crimes. You see that is why they are crimes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah. And what of why they supposedly started this witch hunt? What of the leaker? You remember, him, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The nature of perjury and obstruction of justice is that they prevent effective prosecution of crimes. You see that is why they are crimes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah. And what of why they supposedly started this witch hunt? What of the leaker? You remember, him, right?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137734</link>
		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137734</guid>
		<description>To
&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you really think it is the Democrats who have been most effective in enforcing party loyalty over the past decade?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
you respond
&lt;blockquote&gt;Without any question in my mind. Until, that is, just recently. As it stands right now, they have a full rebellion on their hands, and if anyone thinks they&#039;re going to be able to pull a victory of the rebellion, they&#039;re sadly mistaken.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Where have you been for the last ten years?
&lt;blockquote&gt;When we see that the only conviction out of this entire affair had nothing whatsoever to do with the original crime&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The nature of perjury and obstruction of justice is that they prevent effective prosecution of crimes.  You see that is why they are crimes.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I think it should also be investigated as to whether not Mr. Fitzgerald supported our actions in Iraq.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
and then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To</p>
<blockquote><p>Do you really think it is the Democrats who have been most effective in enforcing party loyalty over the past decade?</p></blockquote>
<p>you respond</p>
<blockquote><p>Without any question in my mind. Until, that is, just recently. As it stands right now, they have a full rebellion on their hands, and if anyone thinks they're going to be able to pull a victory of the rebellion, they're sadly mistaken.</p></blockquote>
<p>Where have you been for the last ten years?</p>
<blockquote><p>When we see that the only conviction out of this entire affair had nothing whatsoever to do with the original crime</p></blockquote>
<p>The nature of perjury and obstruction of justice is that they prevent effective prosecution of crimes.  You see that is why they are crimes.</p>
<blockquote><p>I think it should also be investigated as to whether not Mr. Fitzgerald supported our actions in Iraq.</p></blockquote>
<p>and then?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137680</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137680</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Are you serious?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Quite.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Do you really think it is the Democrats who have been most effective in enforcing party loyalty over the past decade?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Without any question in my mind.  Until, that is, just recently.  As it stands right now, they have a full rebellion on their hands, and if anyone thinks they&#039;re going to be able to pull a victory of the rebellion, they&#039;re sadly mistaken.  
&lt;blockquote&gt;
You actually think that Fitzgerald (Republican and Republican appointed) pursued this case solely to sabotage the Republicans in the 2008 election&lt;/blockquote&gt;.

When we see that the only conviction out of this entire affair had nothing whatsoever to do with the original crime, and that the original criminal ala Richard Armatage... you know.. the guy who actually DID the leaking...is still walking free... I think it&#039;s clear there was some political motivation, at least.  I think it should also be investigated as to whether not Mr. Fitzgerald supported our actions in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are you serious?</p></blockquote>
<p>Quite.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Do you really think it is the Democrats who have been most effective in enforcing party loyalty over the past decade?</p></blockquote>
<p>Without any question in my mind.  Until, that is, just recently.  As it stands right now, they have a full rebellion on their hands, and if anyone thinks they're going to be able to pull a victory of the rebellion, they're sadly mistaken.  </p>
<blockquote><p>
You actually think that Fitzgerald (Republican and Republican appointed) pursued this case solely to sabotage the Republicans in the 2008 election</p></blockquote>
<p>.</p>
<p>When we see that the only conviction out of this entire affair had nothing whatsoever to do with the original crime, and that the original criminal ala Richard Armatage... you know.. the guy who actually DID the leaking...is still walking free... I think it's clear there was some political motivation, at least.  I think it should also be investigated as to whether not Mr. Fitzgerald supported our actions in Iraq.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137652</link>
		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137652</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You seem to feel that republicans are all monolithic, that they&#039;re all in lockstep, like democrats.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Are you serious?  You actually think that Fitzgerald (Republican and Republican appointed) pursued this case solely to sabotage the Republicans in the 2008 election.  What is your evidence in support of this frankly ridiculous contention?

Do you really think it is the Democrats who have been most effective in enforcing party loyalty over the past decade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You seem to feel that republicans are all monolithic, that they're all in lockstep, like democrats.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you serious?  You actually think that Fitzgerald (Republican and Republican appointed) pursued this case solely to sabotage the Republicans in the 2008 election.  What is your evidence in support of this frankly ridiculous contention?</p>
<p>Do you really think it is the Democrats who have been most effective in enforcing party loyalty over the past decade?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137647</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137647</guid>
		<description>You seem to feel that republicans are all monolithic, that they&#039;re all in lockstep, like democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to feel that republicans are all monolithic, that they're all in lockstep, like democrats.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137605</link>
		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137605</guid>
		<description>The comment only came up as a result of a question Novak says was asked significantly into the conversation.  I retrospect that comment was clearly the most substantive of the conversation, that does not mean it was viewed as such by either man at the time.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Indeed; on the other hand, he didn&#039;t represent someone that could be dragged in front of a show trial so as to win political points in the next election.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The prosecutor is a Republican appointee of a Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment only came up as a result of a question Novak says was asked significantly into the conversation.  I retrospect that comment was clearly the most substantive of the conversation, that does not mean it was viewed as such by either man at the time.</p>
<blockquote><p>Indeed; on the other hand, he didn't represent someone that could be dragged in front of a show trial so as to win political points in the next election.</p></blockquote>
<p>The prosecutor is a Republican appointee of a Republican.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137573</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137573</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Then again, Armitage was never put on trial.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed; on the other hand, he didn&#039;t represent someone that could be dragged in front of a show trial so as to win political points in the next election.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;How in the world do you read this into the article?

The article clearly states that they talked about other things until in the middle of the meeting Novak brought it up.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 I&#039;m with James on this one.  
Armitage had been, in Novak&#039;s words, in rebuffing repeatedly requests for a meeting.  Since that point was the only substance of any consequence contained in the meeting, it had to be the purpose of the meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Then again, Armitage was never put on trial.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed; on the other hand, he didn't represent someone that could be dragged in front of a show trial so as to win political points in the next election.  </p>
<blockquote><p>How in the world do you read this into the article?</p>
<p>The article clearly states that they talked about other things until in the middle of the meeting Novak brought it up.
</p></blockquote>
<p> I'm with James on this one.<br />
Armitage had been, in Novak's words, in rebuffing repeatedly requests for a meeting.  Since that point was the only substance of any consequence contained in the meeting, it had to be the purpose of the meeting.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: zara</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137533</link>
		<dc:creator>zara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137533</guid>
		<description>Your update seems to miss the point Spencer was making, which has nothing to do with the timing of the interview and thus would not be refuted by the observation about the Kristof column made by your e-mailer.  And if the Kristof column were what made Armitage agree to speak with Novak -- something of which there is absolutely no evidence -- why would he wait two months to respond to the column? (leaving aside the fact that Armitage said nothing about Plame until asked why Wilson was sent)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your update seems to miss the point Spencer was making, which has nothing to do with the timing of the interview and thus would not be refuted by the observation about the Kristof column made by your e-mailer.  And if the Kristof column were what made Armitage agree to speak with Novak -- something of which there is absolutely no evidence -- why would he wait two months to respond to the column? (leaving aside the fact that Armitage said nothing about Plame until asked why Wilson was sent)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137487</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137487</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m with spencer here. There seem to be a few missing logical steps between the information provided and the conclusion reached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm with spencer here. There seem to be a few missing logical steps between the information provided and the conclusion reached.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/novak_on_plame_leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137485</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/07/novak_on_plame_leak/#comment-137485</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rather clearly, then, leaking Plame’s role in sending her husband to Niger was the primary purpose of the meeting rather than an off-the-cuff revelation.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How in the world do you read this into the article?

The article clearly states that they talked about other things until in the middle of the meeting Novak brought it up.

There is nothing in the article that states why Armitage wanted to have the meeting.

You are reading what you want to out of the article, not what it says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rather clearly, then, leaking Plame&rsquo;s role in sending her husband to Niger was the primary purpose of the meeting rather than an off-the-cuff revelation.
</p></blockquote>
<p>How in the world do you read this into the article?</p>
<p>The article clearly states that they talked about other things until in the middle of the meeting Novak brought it up.</p>
<p>There is nothing in the article that states why Armitage wanted to have the meeting.</p>
<p>You are reading what you want to out of the article, not what it says.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
