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	<title>Comments on: Now That the War on Terrorism is Over</title>
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		<title>By: dawber</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/now_that_the_war_on_terrorism_is_over/comment-page-1/#comment-59097</link>
		<dc:creator>dawber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 05:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Just wow! This bill is stupid for so many reasons.

My understanding of the 2257 regulations is that it only applied to hardcore pornography -- meaning sexually explicit material that depicted actual sex. Since Mike Pence removed the word &quot;actual&quot; from 2257&#039;s definition of sexually explicit, producers of mainstream movies and cable TV shows that feature simulated sex and nudity can be brought up on obscenity charges.

And what do they mean by &quot;clothed depictions of pubic areas?&quot; Does that mean the new PG-13 Jessica Alba movie could be considered obscene if she wears a skimpy bikini?

We&#039;re not just talking about hardcore sex tapes here. We&#039;re talking about banning Tony Soprano&#039;s Bada-Bing girls and Maxim and The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue and &quot;Desperate Housewives&quot; because it could be considered child pornography now.

Alberto Gonzales&#039; &quot;War on Porn&quot; is diverting resources from life or death cases so agents can investigate adult pornography. That&#039;s right. Gonzales&#039; &quot;top priority&quot; now is busting adult porn, not kiddie porn. Or terrorists or mobsters for that matter. They should call it &quot;The War on Tera&quot; -- as in Tera Patrick.

Grab your guns, &#039;cause we&#039;re gonna have a real revolution on our hands when the government starts taking away the porn. Seriously, the public won&#039;t stand for this. Most of us like sex. The GOP is committing political suicide by pandering to sex-hating extremists from the religious right.

I just hope they don&#039;t start writing &quot;porn addiction&quot; laws based on the theories of wackos like Judith Reisman who think porn is more addictive than crack cocaine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Just wow! This bill is stupid for so many reasons.</p>
<p>My understanding of the 2257 regulations is that it only applied to hardcore pornography -- meaning sexually explicit material that depicted actual sex. Since Mike Pence removed the word "actual" from 2257's definition of sexually explicit, producers of mainstream movies and cable TV shows that feature simulated sex and nudity can be brought up on obscenity charges.</p>
<p>And what do they mean by "clothed depictions of pubic areas?" Does that mean the new PG-13 Jessica Alba movie could be considered obscene if she wears a skimpy bikini?</p>
<p>We're not just talking about hardcore sex tapes here. We're talking about banning Tony Soprano's Bada-Bing girls and Maxim and The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue and "Desperate Housewives" because it could be considered child pornography now.</p>
<p>Alberto Gonzales' "War on Porn" is diverting resources from life or death cases so agents can investigate adult pornography. That's right. Gonzales' "top priority" now is busting adult porn, not kiddie porn. Or terrorists or mobsters for that matter. They should call it "The War on Tera" -- as in Tera Patrick.</p>
<p>Grab your guns, 'cause we're gonna have a real revolution on our hands when the government starts taking away the porn. Seriously, the public won't stand for this. Most of us like sex. The GOP is committing political suicide by pandering to sex-hating extremists from the religious right.</p>
<p>I just hope they don't start writing "porn addiction" laws based on the theories of wackos like Judith Reisman who think porn is more addictive than crack cocaine.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What I love is how often the guy thumping the Bible hardest, turns out to be on video thumping, er, something else.

Letâs cross our fingers!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Another rare moment of agreement between me and Anderson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What I love is how often the guy thumping the Bible hardest, turns out to be on video thumping, er, something else.</p>
<p>Letâs cross our fingers!</p></blockquote>
<p>Another rare moment of agreement between me and Anderson.</p>
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		<title>By: Opinion Times</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opinion Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Outside The Beltway is none too pleased with a bill proposed by Cong. Mike Pence, R-IN, called the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 2005. It is designed to hinder the transmission and transportation of child pornography by making it a criminal offense to film illicit sexual activity in a private home and defining obscenity laws in such a way as to increase the criminal penalities for committing this crime. OTB expresses disdain for the measure and would just like to strike out any attempt to affirm moral behavior in the law. So, if you were thinking about making your own homemade porn with your (adult) significant other (and you yourself are an adult) then you&#8217;d better think again. Representative Mike &#8220;The Prude&#8221; Pence is going to come after you. And if you&#8217;ve already created such porn, well you will be sent to a re-education camp. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Outside The Beltway is none too pleased with a bill proposed by Cong. Mike Pence, R-IN, called the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 2005. It is designed to hinder the transmission and transportation of child pornography by making it a criminal offense to film illicit sexual activity in a private home and defining obscenity laws in such a way as to increase the criminal penalities for committing this crime. OTB expresses disdain for the measure and would just like to strike out any attempt to affirm moral behavior in the law. So, if you were thinking about making your own homemade porn with your (adult) significant other (and you yourself are an adult) then you&#8217;d better think again. Representative Mike &#8220;The Prude&#8221; Pence is going to come after you. And if you&#8217;ve already created such porn, well you will be sent to a re-education camp. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I love is how often the guy thumping the Bible hardest, turns out to be on video thumping, er, something else.

Let&#039;s cross our fingers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I love is how often the guy thumping the Bible hardest, turns out to be on video thumping, er, something else.</p>
<p>Let's cross our fingers!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Jaynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Jaynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the ads on the right sexually offensive.  Please remove them lest this site be submitted for evaluation at one of the aforementioned &quot;reeducation camps.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the ads on the right sexually offensive.  Please remove them lest this site be submitted for evaluation at one of the aforementioned "reeducation camps."</p>
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		<title>By: Opinion Times</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opinion Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 06:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Outside The Beltway is none too pleased with a bill proposed by Cong. Mike Pence, R-IN, called the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 2005. It is designed to hinder the transmission and transportation of child pornography by making it a criminal offense to film illicit sexual activity in a private home and defining obscenity laws in such a way as to increase the criminal penalities for committing this crime. OTB expresses disdain for the measure. So, if you were thinking about making your own homemade porn with your (adult) significant other (and you yourself are an adult) then you&#8217;d better think again. Representative Mike &#8220;The Prude&#8221; Pence is going to come after you. And if you&#8217;ve already created such porn, well you will be sent to a re-education camp. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Outside The Beltway is none too pleased with a bill proposed by Cong. Mike Pence, R-IN, called the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 2005. It is designed to hinder the transmission and transportation of child pornography by making it a criminal offense to film illicit sexual activity in a private home and defining obscenity laws in such a way as to increase the criminal penalities for committing this crime. OTB expresses disdain for the measure. So, if you were thinking about making your own homemade porn with your (adult) significant other (and you yourself are an adult) then you&#8217;d better think again. Representative Mike &#8220;The Prude&#8221; Pence is going to come after you. And if you&#8217;ve already created such porn, well you will be sent to a re-education camp. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Pfaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Pfaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 05:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;strike&gt;totally disagree with your argument because freedom requires sacrifice and self-discipline and is not the freedom to do anything one wants--even that which is demeaning and obscene&lt;/strike&gt; agree, people should be allowed to do anything in the privacy of their own bedroom even if it might be offensive to others. For example, I&#039;ll bet Paris Hilton &lt;strike&gt;might have gone to jail in disgrace when her sex tape was revealed if this law had been in effect&lt;/strike&gt; is glad that her sex tape catapulted her career without excessive government intrusion into her bedroom.  It would &lt;strike&gt;have been better for our society if she wasn&#039;t in the public eye flaunting sexual promiscuity as an acceptable lifestyle influencing young women to do the same&lt;/strike&gt; be a tragedy if she had not had the opportunity to build her career because some moral vigilanties had sent her to jail because some guy revealed that tape.It is &lt;strike&gt;truly obscene and destructive to our culture for this type of behavior to be favored in the law&lt;/strike&gt; fortunate for her that the Mike Pence Thought Police didn&#039;t cause her to go to jail or her career would be over.Any society &lt;strike&gt;which doesn&#039;t restrict the free expression of illicit sexual behavior ends up dying a slow death because its people reduce freedom to license and eschew morality and self-government which are the true pillars of freedom&lt;/strike&gt; which takes away any freedom to do anything takes them all away.  So, &lt;strike&gt;we need to re-establish the principles of moral self-government  in the absence of which, as John Adams observed, our Constitution is &quot;wholly inadequate&quot; to preserve our freedoms&lt;/strike&gt; instead of instituting some type of governmental &quot;Thought Police,&quot; we should let people make their own choices, and if they are offended by illicit sexual behavior, they don&#039;t have to watch it or participate in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <strike>totally disagree with your argument because freedom requires sacrifice and self-discipline and is not the freedom to do anything one wants--even that which is demeaning and obscene</strike> agree, people should be allowed to do anything in the privacy of their own bedroom even if it might be offensive to others. For example, I'll bet Paris Hilton <strike>might have gone to jail in disgrace when her sex tape was revealed if this law had been in effect</strike> is glad that her sex tape catapulted her career without excessive government intrusion into her bedroom.  It would <strike>have been better for our society if she wasn't in the public eye flaunting sexual promiscuity as an acceptable lifestyle influencing young women to do the same</strike> be a tragedy if she had not had the opportunity to build her career because some moral vigilanties had sent her to jail because some guy revealed that tape.It is <strike>truly obscene and destructive to our culture for this type of behavior to be favored in the law</strike> fortunate for her that the Mike Pence Thought Police didn't cause her to go to jail or her career would be over.Any society <strike>which doesn't restrict the free expression of illicit sexual behavior ends up dying a slow death because its people reduce freedom to license and eschew morality and self-government which are the true pillars of freedom</strike> which takes away any freedom to do anything takes them all away.  So, <strike>we need to re-establish the principles of moral self-government  in the absence of which, as John Adams observed, our Constitution is "wholly inadequate" to preserve our freedoms</strike> instead of instituting some type of governmental "Thought Police," we should let people make their own choices, and if they are offended by illicit sexual behavior, they don't have to watch it or participate in it.</p>
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		<title>By: patd95</title>
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		<dc:creator>patd95</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come see my latest post...your heart will soar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come see my latest post...your heart will soar!</p>
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		<title>By: NIF</title>
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		<dc:creator>NIF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Another day older&lt;/strong&gt;

Today&#039;s dose of NIF - News, Interesting &amp; Funny ... just the Monday edition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Another day older</strong></p>
<p>Today's dose of NIF - News, Interesting &amp; Funny ... just the Monday edition</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

Have you ever heard of the term,  &quot;Dumb Hoosier&quot;

This guy Pense has apparently expanded that term to himself with the emphasis on &quot;Dumb&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>Have you ever heard of the term,  "Dumb Hoosier"</p>
<p>This guy Pense has apparently expanded that term to himself with the emphasis on "Dumb"</p>
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