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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/nsa_case_dropped_after_lawyers_denied_clearances/comment-page-1/#comment-82254</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 01:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really doubt this is a continuation of the cover-up? If so, I have some land for sale 150 miles due south of Hawaii . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really doubt this is a continuation of the cover-up? If so, I have some land for sale 150 miles due south of Hawaii . . .</p>
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		<title>By: slickdpdx</title>
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		<dc:creator>slickdpdx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 21:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that some OPR lawyers should be cleared so they can do their job.  But will most critics be satisfied with a secret investigation?  I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that some OPR lawyers should be cleared so they can do their job.  But will most critics be satisfied with a secret investigation?  I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/nsa_case_dropped_after_lawyers_denied_clearances/comment-page-1/#comment-82191</link>
		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McG,

I wasn&#039;t suggesting that political appointment would be sufficient cause. But we have seen mid level bureaucrats from previous administrations think that it is all right to leak secrets to the press or destroy information (e.g. Berger) for political reasons. One of the ways you keep a secret is not to let others know and especially not to let those who can&#039;t keep a secret.

I stand by the fact that we haven&#039;t seen enough information to know if this is the case of one lawyer denied access for cause, &quot;all DOJ lawyers&quot; denied access or something in between. What we have a a fax from a Clinton appointee to a democratic congressman who isn&#039;t on the house intelligence committee. Hardly a complete set of facts now is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McG,</p>
<p>I wasn't suggesting that political appointment would be sufficient cause. But we have seen mid level bureaucrats from previous administrations think that it is all right to leak secrets to the press or destroy information (e.g. Berger) for political reasons. One of the ways you keep a secret is not to let others know and especially not to let those who can't keep a secret.</p>
<p>I stand by the fact that we haven't seen enough information to know if this is the case of one lawyer denied access for cause, "all DOJ lawyers" denied access or something in between. What we have a a fax from a Clinton appointee to a democratic congressman who isn't on the house intelligence committee. Hardly a complete set of facts now is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Office of the Independent Blogger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Richard Nixon Reloaded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Office of the Independent Blogger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Richard Nixon Reloaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If President Clinton&#8217;s scandals were a rewrite of Andrew Johnson&#8217;s for a New Age, then George Bush&#8217;s are Richard Nixon&#8217;s Reloaded for old time&#8217;s sake. News broke today that the NSA has a database containing tens of millions of American phone records, and that is a sure sign of a program run amok. But that alone wasn&#8217;t enough to break the secretary&#8217;s recorder. No, that takes a Saturday Night Massacre to accomplish, and the Bush White House is up to the task. The Justice Department was assigned to review the legality of the NSA&#8217;s program, but the NSA refused to give the Justice Department clearance to investigate. Bush wants Americans to trust him, to believe that his program is fine and dandy, but if they can&#8217;t even trust themselves how can we trust them? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If President Clinton&#8217;s scandals were a rewrite of Andrew Johnson&#8217;s for a New Age, then George Bush&#8217;s are Richard Nixon&#8217;s Reloaded for old time&#8217;s sake. News broke today that the NSA has a database containing tens of millions of American phone records, and that is a sure sign of a program run amok. But that alone wasn&#8217;t enough to break the secretary&#8217;s recorder. No, that takes a Saturday Night Massacre to accomplish, and the Bush White House is up to the task. The Justice Department was assigned to review the legality of the NSA&#8217;s program, but the NSA refused to give the Justice Department clearance to investigate. Bush wants Americans to trust him, to believe that his program is fine and dandy, but if they can&#8217;t even trust themselves how can we trust them? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope you are not holding your breath waiting for Bush to do  the right thing.  I wonder if some outside nation is going to step in and help us establish a democracy. I don&#039;t think we have one any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you are not holding your breath waiting for Bush to do  the right thing.  I wonder if some outside nation is going to step in and help us establish a democracy. I don't think we have one any more.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hope so too, McG, but given the recent comments by the HUD secretary, it seems to be standard policy these days that if you aren&#039;t an overt supporter of Bush, you have no voice or representation in this government...

When they said &quot;if you aren&#039;t with us, you&#039;re against us,&quot; you thought they were talking about terrorists... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope so too, McG, but given the recent comments by the HUD secretary, it seems to be standard policy these days that if you aren't an overt supporter of Bush, you have no voice or representation in this government...</p>
<p>When they said "if you aren't with us, you're against us," you thought they were talking about terrorists... ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog:  A Rough Draft of my Thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog:  A Rough Draft of my Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 17:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More NSA Nonsense...&lt;/strong&gt;

	James Joyner at OTB notes the following from the AP:  Security issue kills domestic spying inquiry:
The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the National Security Agency refused to grant Justice D...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More NSA Nonsense...</strong></p>
<p>	James Joyner at OTB notes the following from the AP:  Security issue kills domestic spying inquiry:<br />
The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the National Security Agency refused to grant Justice D...</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But if the problem is just some hold overs from the Clinton administration who donâ��t pass muster...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would hope that would not be the reason they didn&#039;t pass muster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But if the problem is just some hold overs from the Clinton administration who donâ��t pass muster...</p></blockquote>
<p>I would hope that would not be the reason they didn't pass muster.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that all DOJ lawyers where deemed not clearable? What I see is &quot;OPR has been denied security clearances for access to information about the NSA program.  Beginning in January 2006, this Office made a series of requests for the necessary clearances.  On May 9, 2006, we were informed that our requests had been denied.&quot; This would suggest a much smaller set of lawyers than all DOJ lawyers. It is unclear if they had some specific names rejected, the series refers to them submitting the name of each lawyer in OPR in turn or what.

The counsel sending the fax doesn&#039;t provide the details. The fact that he was appointed by Reno during the Clinton administration doesn&#039;t prove his fax is meant to be a political stunt vs a real issue, but it doesn&#039;t disprove it either.

I agree that if every DOJ lawyer was denied that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. But if the problem is just some hold overs from the Clinton administration who don&#039;t pass muster, then its an entirely different affair. There are apparently a fair number of DC bureaucrats who think their judgement on what secrets should be released is dispositive. Maybe the names put forth are in that group? But I don&#039;t see enough information to rush to judgement in either direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I missed it, but where does it say that all DOJ lawyers where deemed not clearable? What I see is "OPR has been denied security clearances for access to information about the NSA program.  Beginning in January 2006, this Office made a series of requests for the necessary clearances.  On May 9, 2006, we were informed that our requests had been denied." This would suggest a much smaller set of lawyers than all DOJ lawyers. It is unclear if they had some specific names rejected, the series refers to them submitting the name of each lawyer in OPR in turn or what.</p>
<p>The counsel sending the fax doesn't provide the details. The fact that he was appointed by Reno during the Clinton administration doesn't prove his fax is meant to be a political stunt vs a real issue, but it doesn't disprove it either.</p>
<p>I agree that if every DOJ lawyer was denied that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. But if the problem is just some hold overs from the Clinton administration who don't pass muster, then its an entirely different affair. There are apparently a fair number of DC bureaucrats who think their judgement on what secrets should be released is dispositive. Maybe the names put forth are in that group? But I don't see enough information to rush to judgement in either direction.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 15:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAJ:  Sure. I do find it highly unlikely that NO DOJ LAWYER WAS CLEARABLE, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAJ:  Sure. I do find it highly unlikely that NO DOJ LAWYER WAS CLEARABLE, however.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general I would agree with you, but I personally will reserve judgement until I know a bit more about those denied clearance. 

I do not find it beyond the pale of possibilities that the lawyers denied clearance should be denied clearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general I would agree with you, but I personally will reserve judgement until I know a bit more about those denied clearance. </p>
<p>I do not find it beyond the pale of possibilities that the lawyers denied clearance should be denied clearance.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 15:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Security Issue Kills Domestic Spying Probe 
   
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The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the ...</description>
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<p>The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the ...</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 14:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Let the Justice Department investigate!...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Justice Department has dropped its investigation of the FISA wiretapping matter because investigators were unable to obtain clearance to review material necessary to the investigation:
WASHINGTON, May 10 — An investigation by the Justice Departme...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Let the Justice Department investigate!...</strong></p>
<p>The Justice Department has dropped its investigation of the FISA wiretapping matter because investigators were unable to obtain clearance to review material necessary to the investigation:<br />
WASHINGTON, May 10 — An investigation by the Justice Departme...</p>
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		<title>By: Seav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 13:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is Fitzgerald and his criminal conspiracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Fitzgerald and his criminal conspiracy?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Arguing with signposts…</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;ll probably hear over the next few days is “well, Congress knew about this program all along. Why didn’t they say anything about it?” Good question. I’m suspicious of the ability of Congress to ask questions as well.James Joyner and Steven Taylor are - quite naturally - all over this topic. May 12th, 2006 Posted by Bryan S. &#124; Politics &#124; no comments&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->ll probably hear over the next few days is “well, Congress knew about this program all along. Why didn&rsquo;t they say anything about it?” Good question. I&rsquo;m suspicious of the ability of Congress to ask questions as well.James Joyner and Steven Taylor are - quite naturally - all over this topic. May 12th, 2006 Posted by Bryan S. | Politics | no comments<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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