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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/nsa_surveillance_program_ruled_unconstitutional_/comment-page-1/#comment-94873</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson,
Yes, but I&#039;m just trying to point out the pathetic desparation of attacking a judge&#039;s decisions solely on who appointed them to the bench, rather than on any, you know &lt;em&gt;legal &lt;/em&gt;grounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson,<br />
Yes, but I'm just trying to point out the pathetic desparation of attacking a judge's decisions solely on who appointed them to the bench, rather than on any, you know <em>legal </em>grounds.</p>
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		<title>By: The Right Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Right Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Toghe rosse a Detroit...&lt;/strong&gt;

Se non vi fidate troppo di come stanno raccontando in Italia la sentenza di un giudice federale di Detroit, che ha dichiarato incostituzionale il &quot;Terrorist Surveillance Program&quot; voluto dall&#039;amministrazione Bush dopo l&#039;11 settembre, vi consiglio di...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Toghe rosse a Detroit...</strong></p>
<p>Se non vi fidate troppo di come stanno raccontando in Italia la sentenza di un giudice federale di Detroit, che ha dichiarato incostituzionale il "Terrorist Surveillance Program" voluto dall'amministrazione Bush dopo l'11 settembre, vi consiglio di...</p>
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		<title>By: Assorted Babble by Suzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assorted Babble by Suzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ACLU vs NSA Leftist Judge Rules Unconstitutional...&lt;/strong&gt;

I am way too angry to post on this story even when it broke yesterday, this is being appealed and anyone with a half brain would agree that this is a vital tool in tracking terrorists. A MUST, please put more ears on the phones A.S.A.P. I agree w ........</description>
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<p>I am way too angry to post on this story even when it broke yesterday, this is being appealed and anyone with a half brain would agree that this is a vital tool in tracking terrorists. A MUST, please put more ears on the phones A.S.A.P. I agree w ........</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Carter Lackey Overturns Program That Protects This Country</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Carter Lackey Overturns Program That Protects This Country</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legion, didn&#039;t that 1st judge rule solely on whether the state-secrets exclusion applied?  He could still in theory rule that the program was both constitutional and legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legion, didn't that 1st judge rule solely on whether the state-secrets exclusion applied?  He could still in theory rule that the program was both constitutional and legal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;although my preference is for checks and balances to hold under all but the most exigent of circumstances&lt;/em&gt;

Right.  A five-year exigency strains the limits of &quot;exigency.&quot;

Agreed also that the op read more like a civics lesson than it needed to.  There are real issues here, though I doubt the result should be any different.

OTOH, in a high-profile case such as this, it&#039;s a given that the circuit court of appeals will start from scratch anyway, so why knock yourself out?   ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>although my preference is for checks and balances to hold under all but the most exigent of circumstances</em></p>
<p>Right.  A five-year exigency strains the limits of "exigency."</p>
<p>Agreed also that the op read more like a civics lesson than it needed to.  There are real issues here, though I doubt the result should be any different.</p>
<p>OTOH, in a high-profile case such as this, it's a given that the circuit court of appeals will start from scratch anyway, so why knock yourself out?   ;)</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charming, Bill. You know, she&#039;s actually the _second_ judge to rule against the gov&#039;t on the NSA&#039;s wiretapping programs. Wann guess who appointed the first judge to the federal bench? Bush Senior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charming, Bill. You know, she's actually the _second_ judge to rule against the gov't on the NSA's wiretapping programs. Wann guess who appointed the first judge to the federal bench? Bush Senior.</p>
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		<title>By: The American Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Judge Rules Terrorist Spying Unconstitutional...&lt;/strong&gt;

U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit ruled the NSA violated the First and Fourth Amendments with their warrantless......</description>
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<p>U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit ruled the NSA violated the First and Fourth Amendments with their warrantless......</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry Mark Holzer was quick to send out a bio of the judge in question to his newsletter subscribers. You&#039;ll never guess who appointed Judge Taylor to the becnch. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldwardogs.us/2006/08/thanks_you_jimm.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Answer at my place&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry Mark Holzer was quick to send out a bio of the judge in question to his newsletter subscribers. You'll never guess who appointed Judge Taylor to the becnch. <a href="http://www.oldwardogs.us/2006/08/thanks_you_jimm.html" rel="nofollow">Answer at my place</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Indeed, I’m surprised it has taken so long to come to an accord on matching the law with present circumstances.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really?  Even when half of Congress can&#039;t decide whether they want to back the president or not and the other half actively wants him to fail?

But gosh, isn&#039;t it wrong of Mr. Drum to insinuate that most judges can no longer make sensible rulings?  That sounds almost hostile to the judiciary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Indeed, I&rsquo;m surprised it has taken so long to come to an accord on matching the law with present circumstances.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really?  Even when half of Congress can't decide whether they want to back the president or not and the other half actively wants him to fail?</p>
<p>But gosh, isn't it wrong of Mr. Drum to insinuate that most judges can no longer make sensible rulings?  That sounds almost hostile to the judiciary.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn also makes an important point a ways in:
&lt;blockquote&gt;...as of right now, it is illegal, according to this federal court, for the Bush administration to continue to implement its &quot;Terrorist Surveillance Program,&quot; and since it is grounded in constitutional conclusions, nothing -- such as Arlen Specter&#039;s dreaded bill -- could change that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If it violates the Constitution, ordinary laws can&#039;t authorize it. What I&#039;m less sure of is - If Congress passed one of those oft-threatened &quot;the courts can&#039;t consider cases about subject X&quot; laws, would that affect an appeal already in progress? Would they have to wait until a court ruled in Bush&#039;s favor, and _then_ forbid further court action? Would that even apply, given that it&#039;s still based on Constitutional issues, which are explicitly the Courts&#039; realm of interpretation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn also makes an important point a ways in:</p>
<blockquote><p>...as of right now, it is illegal, according to this federal court, for the Bush administration to continue to implement its "Terrorist Surveillance Program," and since it is grounded in constitutional conclusions, nothing -- such as Arlen Specter's dreaded bill -- could change that.</p></blockquote>
<p>If it violates the Constitution, ordinary laws can't authorize it. What I'm less sure of is - If Congress passed one of those oft-threatened "the courts can't consider cases about subject X" laws, would that affect an appeal already in progress? Would they have to wait until a court ruled in Bush's favor, and _then_ forbid further court action? Would that even apply, given that it's still based on Constitutional issues, which are explicitly the Courts' realm of interpretation?</p>
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		<title>By: jpe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought much of the opinion was pretty flimsy.  The legal issues are clear enough: on the merits, Bush loses, but the standing section of the opinion seemed really, really strained. (I guess Althouse is the one to watch here.  Despite being all kinds of wrong on standing in Hamdan, she still knows the black letter of the law better than anyone)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought much of the opinion was pretty flimsy.  The legal issues are clear enough: on the merits, Bush loses, but the standing section of the opinion seemed really, really strained. (I guess Althouse is the one to watch here.  Despite being all kinds of wrong on standing in Hamdan, she still knows the black letter of the law better than anyone)</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a certain sophomoric flippancy to the excerpts, at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a certain sophomoric flippancy to the excerpts, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Balkin, no fan of the NSA program, is &lt;a href=&quot;http://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/08/federal-court-strikes-down-nsa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;distinctly underwhelmed&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;It is quite clear that the government will appeal this opinion, and &lt;strong&gt;because the court&#039;s opinion, quite frankly, has so many holes in it&lt;/strong&gt;, it is also clear to me that the plaintiffs will have to relitigate the entire matter before the circuit court, and possibly the Supreme Court. The reasons that the court below has given are just not good enough. This is just the opening shot in what promises to be a long battle.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Balkin, no fan of the NSA program, is <a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/08/federal-court-strikes-down-nsa.html" rel="nofollow">distinctly underwhelmed</a>:<br />
<blockquote>It is quite clear that the government will appeal this opinion, and <strong>because the court's opinion, quite frankly, has so many holes in it</strong>, it is also clear to me that the plaintiffs will have to relitigate the entire matter before the circuit court, and possibly the Supreme Court. The reasons that the court below has given are just not good enough. This is just the opening shot in what promises to be a long battle.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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A federal judge ruled Thursday that the government&#039;s warrantless wiretapping program is unconstituti...</description>
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