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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-317-mccain-194/comment-page-1/#comment-424800</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When the Republicans got pushed out because of the nonsense being spread by the Democrats, we were in the midst of slight economic boom, gas was slightly more than $2 per gallon, food costs were low and supplies were plentiful, the housing market was booming. Since then, our food and fuel are both double the price and in shortages, taxes are up,, housing is tight, as is credit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, and the Titanic was still floating when her Captain took the wheel, obviously it was all his fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When the Republicans got pushed out because of the nonsense being spread by the Democrats, we were in the midst of slight economic boom, gas was slightly more than $2 per gallon, food costs were low and supplies were plentiful, the housing market was booming. Since then, our food and fuel are both double the price and in shortages, taxes are up,, housing is tight, as is credit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, and the Titanic was still floating when her Captain took the wheel, obviously it was all his fault.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually the pig analogy is a bad one. Pigs are intelligent little guys, and they are easy to like when you spend some time around them...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

lol so are liberals, and yes I have pity for them who like pigs, are semi intelligent but love to roll around and live their lives covered in their own poop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually the pig analogy is a bad one. Pigs are intelligent little guys, and they are easy to like when you spend some time around them...</p></blockquote>
<p>lol so are liberals, and yes I have pity for them who like pigs, are semi intelligent but love to roll around and live their lives covered in their own poop.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-317-mccain-194/comment-page-1/#comment-424663</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tell me, Bithead, will you conservatives ever take responsiblity for your actions and their results--you know, the &quot;personal responsibility&quot; stuff you guys like to talk about all the time--or would you prefer to live in your fantasy world where everything is a conspiracy against you and nothing is your fault?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;No to the first. Yes to the second.&quot;  
B. Banzai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tell me, Bithead, will you conservatives ever take responsiblity for your actions and their results--you know, the "personal responsibility" stuff you guys like to talk about all the time--or would you prefer to live in your fantasy world where everything is a conspiracy against you and nothing is your fault?</p></blockquote>
<p>"No to the first. Yes to the second."<br />
B. Banzai</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-317-mccain-194/comment-page-1/#comment-424662</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Virginia going to Obama, yeah when Massachusetts goes Republican.  Even Obama has written off Ohio.  All I can say is anyone who believes these results may be interested in some beach front property I have in Utah, and my magic solar power device.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Ohio Republican Party is in dreadful shape and barely went for Bush in 2004.  Virginia has a Democratic governor, elected Democrat Jim Webb to the Senate in 2006, and is looking likely to replace retiring Republican John Warner with former Democratic Governor Mark Warner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Virginia going to Obama, yeah when Massachusetts goes Republican.  Even Obama has written off Ohio.  All I can say is anyone who believes these results may be interested in some beach front property I have in Utah, and my magic solar power device.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Ohio Republican Party is in dreadful shape and barely went for Bush in 2004.  Virginia has a Democratic governor, elected Democrat Jim Webb to the Senate in 2006, and is looking likely to replace retiring Republican John Warner with former Democratic Governor Mark Warner.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So Obama calling for schools for black kids that are not about to have the roof fall in is a bad thing? That&#039;s your &quot;reparations&quot; proof Bubba? LOL, like I said you can smell the desperation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of itself, of course not. But it&#039;s counched in terms of reparations. Also, let&#039;s recall, please that the places he&#039;s talking about spend more per student than a lot of suburban districts do.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am afraid I am going to have to hand off responding to your nonsense to some of the other rational beings out there for a few days, right now I can&#039;t help thinking about the old line about trying to teach a pig to sing..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, well, when you get to rationality and intellectual honesty, let us know. Thusfar you&#039;ve shown us sings of neither.
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Saudi Arabia, the country that brought us 9/11...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really? You have proof of state sponsorship of terrorism, there?  I await your list with interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So Obama calling for schools for black kids that are not about to have the roof fall in is a bad thing? That's your "reparations" proof Bubba? LOL, like I said you can smell the desperation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of itself, of course not. But it's counched in terms of reparations. Also, let's recall, please that the places he's talking about spend more per student than a lot of suburban districts do.</p>
<blockquote><p>I am afraid I am going to have to hand off responding to your nonsense to some of the other rational beings out there for a few days, right now I can't help thinking about the old line about trying to teach a pig to sing..</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, well, when you get to rationality and intellectual honesty, let us know. Thusfar you've shown us sings of neither.</p>
<blockquote><p>Saudi Arabia, the country that brought us 9/11...</p></blockquote>
<p>Really? You have proof of state sponsorship of terrorism, there?  I await your list with interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a joke.  I wonder what the record of these folk on the 1980 and 1984 elections or even 1994.  Wanna bet they were way off.

Virginia going to Obama, yeah when Massachusetts goes Republican.  Even Obama has written off Ohio.  All I can say is anyone who believes these results may be interested in some beach front property I have in Utah, and my magic solar power device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke.  I wonder what the record of these folk on the 1980 and 1984 elections or even 1994.  Wanna bet they were way off.</p>
<p>Virginia going to Obama, yeah when Massachusetts goes Republican.  Even Obama has written off Ohio.  All I can say is anyone who believes these results may be interested in some beach front property I have in Utah, and my magic solar power device.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the pig analogy is a bad one. Pigs are intelligent little guys, and they are easy to like when you spend some time around them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the pig analogy is a bad one. Pigs are intelligent little guys, and they are easy to like when you spend some time around them...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-317-mccain-194/comment-page-1/#comment-424279</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit,

So Obama calling for schools for black kids that are not about to have the roof fall in is a bad thing? That&#039;s your &quot;reparations&quot; proof Bubba? LOL, like I said you can smell the desperation.

I am afraid I am going to have to hand off responding to your nonsense to some of the other rational beings out there for a few days, right now I can&#039;t help thinking about the old line about trying to teach a pig to sing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit,</p>
<p>So Obama calling for schools for black kids that are not about to have the roof fall in is a bad thing? That's your "reparations" proof Bubba? LOL, like I said you can smell the desperation.</p>
<p>I am afraid I am going to have to hand off responding to your nonsense to some of the other rational beings out there for a few days, right now I can't help thinking about the old line about trying to teach a pig to sing...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-317-mccain-194/comment-page-1/#comment-424241</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tillman supports Obama and Obama supports Tillman&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, politics makes for strange bedfellows. Bush holds hands with the Ambassador from Saudi Arabia. You know, Saudi Arabia, the country that brought us 9/11...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tillman supports Obama and Obama supports Tillman</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, politics makes for strange bedfellows. Bush holds hands with the Ambassador from Saudi Arabia. You know, Saudi Arabia, the country that brought us 9/11...</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-317-mccain-194/comment-page-1/#comment-424204</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First off, I seldom read Hewitt, truth to tell, though i suppose I should be reading him more if his thinking parallels mine so well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bithead, let me just say as someone who has unfortunately read a few Hewitt postings, you and Hewitt might have a beautiful future together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First off, I seldom read Hewitt, truth to tell, though i suppose I should be reading him more if his thinking parallels mine so well.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bithead, let me just say as someone who has unfortunately read a few Hewitt postings, you and Hewitt might have a beautiful future together.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-317-mccain-194/comment-page-1/#comment-424199</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Back in reality, however, we know that even a temporary spike in the oil supply is a temporary fix that won&#039;t answer the question where the oil&#039;s going to come from for the next 10 years, let alone in our children&#039;s lifetime&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First off, I seldom read Hewitt, truth to tell, though i suppose I should be reading him more if his thinking parallels mine so well. Second,  we have well over a century of oil  left even absent any new finds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Back in reality, however, we know that even a temporary spike in the oil supply is a temporary fix that won't answer the question where the oil's going to come from for the next 10 years, let alone in our children's lifetime</p></blockquote>
<p>First off, I seldom read Hewitt, truth to tell, though i suppose I should be reading him more if his thinking parallels mine so well. Second,  we have well over a century of oil  left even absent any new finds.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-317-mccain-194/comment-page-1/#comment-424196</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In other words, all was well until Democrats took control of THIS congress...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With the kind of logical leaps you&#039;re making, you should be wearing a parachute at all times. No, this kind of nonsense was long in coming, and is largely the same situation we found ourselves in under Carter.LAck of drilling here, lack of refining capacity a Democrat dominated Congress giddy with it&#039;s own regulatory power...

ANd sadly we didn&#039;t move awy far enough from that situation, for lack of political will.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Amazing. Republicans controlling all three branches of government from 2002-2006 doesn&#039;t constitute total control in Bithead&#039;s world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Where, apparently, you&#039;re getting confused is the concept that Republican  conservative. McCain, for example.


&lt;blockquote&gt;Ah, the new line from the trolls, Obama = reparations. Wow. the desperation is palpable...&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pr-inside.com/a-presidet-barack-obama-would-force-r85048.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hmmm...&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Prior to his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004 Obama opposed reparations for slavery. After his election, Obama subtly changed his view, stating he was against &quot;just signing over checks to African-Americans,&quot; leaving open the possibility of other forms of reparations would be acceptable to him (Chicago Tribune 11/14/2004).

Second, whom does Barry O &quot;hang&quot; with? Well, Obama hangs with the reparations crowd. Now guilt by association is certainly unfair. But if you hang with the reparations crowd, they must see something in you they like. Indeed they do. U. S. Representative John Conyers, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, is reportedly waiting for Obama to be elected so Conyers can rush a reparations law through Congress. (The Hill, 3/13/ 2007) Hmmm. Does Conyers know something we don&#039;t?

Finally, the most telling indication that Obama has a secret addiction to reparations is reflected in those who support him and those whom he supports: the most notorious race-baiter on the Chicago City Council, Alderwoman Dorothy Tillman.

Haven&#039;t heard of Dorothy Tillman? You better learn about Obama&#039;s #1 supporter. And fast. You really should know who she is. Tillman has almost single-handedly made a joke of the City of Chicago in the public finance industry over her preoccupation with slavery and reparations.

Tillman supports Obama and Obama supports Tillman&lt;/blockquote&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.aol.com/video-detail/edwards-against-reparations-obama-suggest-money-for-education-instead/3126999430&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a vid&lt;/a&gt; of Obama suggesting that reparations take the form of education funding for blacks.

Here&#039;s the text:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;I think the reparation we need right here in South Carolina is investment, for example in our schools.  I did a town hall meeting in Florence, South Carolina, in an area called the corridor of shame.  They&#039;ve got buildings that students are trying to learn in that were built right after the Civil War. And we&#039;ve got teachers who are not trained to teach the subjects they&#039;re teaching and high dropout rates.  We&#039;ve got to understand that there are corridors of shame all across the country.  And if we make the investments and understand that those are our children, that&#039;s the kind of reparation that are really going to make a difference in America right now.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

 So, he&#039;s for it, he just doesn&#039;t want to CALL it that. 


Desperate?
Hmmm. I&#039;m not so sure. Sounds like they&#039;ve got a firm grip on reality, where this huckster, Obama is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In other words, all was well until Democrats took control of THIS congress...</p></blockquote>
<p>With the kind of logical leaps you're making, you should be wearing a parachute at all times. No, this kind of nonsense was long in coming, and is largely the same situation we found ourselves in under Carter.LAck of drilling here, lack of refining capacity a Democrat dominated Congress giddy with it's own regulatory power...</p>
<p>ANd sadly we didn't move awy far enough from that situation, for lack of political will.</p>
<blockquote><p>Amazing. Republicans controlling all three branches of government from 2002-2006 doesn't constitute total control in Bithead's world.</p></blockquote>
<p>Where, apparently, you're getting confused is the concept that Republican  conservative. McCain, for example.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ah, the new line from the trolls, Obama = reparations. Wow. the desperation is palpable...</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.pr-inside.com/a-presidet-barack-obama-would-force-r85048.htm" rel="nofollow">Hmmm...</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Prior to his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004 Obama opposed reparations for slavery. After his election, Obama subtly changed his view, stating he was against "just signing over checks to African-Americans," leaving open the possibility of other forms of reparations would be acceptable to him (Chicago Tribune 11/14/2004).</p>
<p>Second, whom does Barry O "hang" with? Well, Obama hangs with the reparations crowd. Now guilt by association is certainly unfair. But if you hang with the reparations crowd, they must see something in you they like. Indeed they do. U. S. Representative John Conyers, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, is reportedly waiting for Obama to be elected so Conyers can rush a reparations law through Congress. (The Hill, 3/13/ 2007) Hmmm. Does Conyers know something we don't?</p>
<p>Finally, the most telling indication that Obama has a secret addiction to reparations is reflected in those who support him and those whom he supports: the most notorious race-baiter on the Chicago City Council, Alderwoman Dorothy Tillman.</p>
<p>Haven't heard of Dorothy Tillman? You better learn about Obama's #1 supporter. And fast. You really should know who she is. Tillman has almost single-handedly made a joke of the City of Chicago in the public finance industry over her preoccupation with slavery and reparations.</p>
<p>Tillman supports Obama and Obama supports Tillman</p></blockquote>
<p>.</p>
<p><a href="http://video.aol.com/video-detail/edwards-against-reparations-obama-suggest-money-for-education-instead/3126999430" rel="nofollow">Here's a vid</a> of Obama suggesting that reparations take the form of education funding for blacks.</p>
<p>Here's the text:</p>
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"I think the reparation we need right here in South Carolina is investment, for example in our schools.  I did a town hall meeting in Florence, South Carolina, in an area called the corridor of shame.  They've got buildings that students are trying to learn in that were built right after the Civil War. And we've got teachers who are not trained to teach the subjects they're teaching and high dropout rates.  We've got to understand that there are corridors of shame all across the country.  And if we make the investments and understand that those are our children, that's the kind of reparation that are really going to make a difference in America right now." </p></blockquote>
<p> So, he's for it, he just doesn't want to CALL it that. </p>
<p>Desperate?<br />
Hmmm. I'm not so sure. Sounds like they've got a firm grip on reality, where this huckster, Obama is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the new line from the trolls, Obama = reparations. Wow. the desperation is palpable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the new line from the trolls, Obama = reparations. Wow. the desperation is palpable...</p>
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		<title>By: lunacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lunacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a few friends, even Republicans, who said, -In a way I hope Obama wins just to put this racial crap to be.-

Trouble is, it won&#039;t be put to bed even then. In fact, I fear it will get worse. And Christopher Wallace makes my point.

There is no racial tyranny. And I don&#039;t owe any body any form of reparations.

And for the record, he&#039;s only 1/2 black. The half that raised and cared for him was white.

Stop it already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've had a few friends, even Republicans, who said, -In a way I hope Obama wins just to put this racial crap to be.-</p>
<p>Trouble is, it won't be put to bed even then. In fact, I fear it will get worse. And Christopher Wallace makes my point.</p>
<p>There is no racial tyranny. And I don't owe any body any form of reparations.</p>
<p>And for the record, he's only 1/2 black. The half that raised and cared for him was white.</p>
<p>Stop it already.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one can stop the historical event that is unfolding before our eyes. Reparations for Slavery are coming and Obama is the messenger. He will put an end to racial majority dictatorship.</description>
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