Not particularly, Grew. I've said for many years, now hat the very worst thing you can do to a liberal democrat is to give them exactly what they ask for. Obama is a case in point.

That is just foolishly partisan. Wanting a black man to be elected and to then fail miserably so that future black people will not be seriously considered for high office is bigoted. Ragshaft, or at least the character he plays, is both foolishly partisan and a bigot.

This is classic. We should have seen this coming a from mile away:
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Gleefully looking forward to the former so the later would come to pass makes Ragshaft look like a racist.

Not particularly, Grew. I've said for many years, now hat the very worst thing you can do to a liberal democrat is to give them exactly what they ask for. Obama is a case in point.

When the man's wrong, I'll take a flamethrower to him, as I do you, regularly enough. OTOH, when you're right, I'll say so. I apply the same rules to you, and we get along well enough.

Past that, Ragshaft is quite correct;

Bit, haven't we established by now that when you find yourself in agreement with Zelsdorf, you're most likely wrong?

If you listen to Obama, he was upset that Wright had disrespected him. It is all about Obama.

...Obama is a bum and not only should he not be President, he should be ousted from the senate. He is a liar and a racist. I judged him not by the color of his skin, but the very lack of character he has displayed for a very long time. It is what happens when white trash gets layed by visiting Africans. [my emphasis]

Zelsdorf Ragshaft III, April 16, 2008 at 6:45 PM on Hot Air.

Kinda sorda. I see the Rev. still doing speaking engagements with A LOT of media coverage...and I see him not being so nicey-nicey towards the Obama camp from here on in.

Also, notice that Obama has never said specifically where their views diverged. He's always given the blanket statement "I never heard these offensive things in my 20+ years at the church". Well, being that you attended that church for so long and obviously agree for most of what the Rev./Churches views are....which ones don't you agree with???. Is it only the ones on YOUTUBE or only the ones the media has transcripts of???.

He did finally did some good by putting some distance between the Rev. and himself but it's not just going to go away.

The Theology of this Church comes out of the marxist liberation theology used by the socialists in South America.

Past that, Ragshaft is quite correct; Like Carter, the result will be landslides for Republicans for the next three cycles at least. And I suspect that there will be those who will look askance at the candidacy of any black for quite a while by that same token. And that part's sad, really.

Go ahead, and tell me how I'm a racist, now.

Thinking that an Obama presidency will fail and that people will associate that failure with his race which would in turn influence some ignorant people to choose to vote against future black candidates does not make you racist. Gleefully looking forward to the former so the later would come to pass makes Ragshaft look like a racist.
I think your perception of the effects of racism on whites vs the effects of racism on blacks are woefully off base and that you suffer from a failure of empathy on this point, but I would not classify you as racist given what I know now. I'm sure you'll sleep better knowing that ;)

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Past that, Ragshaft is quite correct; Like Carter, the result will be landslides for Republicans for the next three cycles at least. And I suspect that there will be those who will look askance at the candidacy of any black for quite a while by that same token. And that part's sad, really.

Go ahead, and tell me how I'm a racist, now.

What I said was true not racist. If a far left wing black gets into the oval office and does what he plans to do, do you honestly think this country will elect, if elections are still held when this closet communist is done, another democrat or a person of color within our lifetime?

What you said is not true, but it does read as bigoted.

I would be elated to see Obama elected President (A). That would probably be the last Democrat (B) and Black person (C) to get to run seriously for that office.

You hope for A. If A occurs then you believe B and C will follow. The logical inference here is that you hope for B and C. It is difficult to read your statement as saying anything other than you will be elated if no Democrat or black person is ever again seriously considered for president. Hoping for the end of a serious opposition party is foolish but typical partisan hackery, being elated by the prospect of no black person ever being seriously considered for the presidency is bigoted.

* Where A is Obama being elected, B is a future Democrat elected, and C is a future black person elected.