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	<title>Comments on: Obama Electoral Lead Widens as National Lead Shrinks</title>
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		<title>By: fester</title>
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		<dc:creator>fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James --- good post but I think you are missing it on the Barr-Nader comparison.  The Left has already had the great pleasure of shooting itself in the foot with a third party candidate.  The Right has not done that in a couple of generations.  

I have a hard time seeing Nadar getting on the ballot in many states as I know Democrats will actively challenge every damn signature he submits and knock out most of them. 

I participated &lt;a href=&quot;http://festersplace.blogspot.com/2004/10/nader-signature-massacre.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in that effort in 2004 for Pennsylvania, and it was a bad joke&lt;/a&gt;. Nader saw 75% knock out rates in Philadelphia and 65%+ in Pittsburgh.  His campaign experienced 50% + knock out rates throughout the state.  

I saw the Nader signature collectors near my office last week, and they still don&#039;t know what they are doing.  They are not asking people if they are registered to vote, they are not asking them to actually fill out the form completely (just sign and write your name is what they are doing) and I know they are getting duplicate signatures as I saw one individual sign a petition at my bus stop, and then sign the same damn petition 150 yards later near my coffee shop.  The QA sucks.  I severely doubt he&#039;ll be on the ballot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James --- good post but I think you are missing it on the Barr-Nader comparison.  The Left has already had the great pleasure of shooting itself in the foot with a third party candidate.  The Right has not done that in a couple of generations.  </p>
<p>I have a hard time seeing Nadar getting on the ballot in many states as I know Democrats will actively challenge every damn signature he submits and knock out most of them. </p>
<p>I participated <a href="http://festersplace.blogspot.com/2004/10/nader-signature-massacre.html" rel="nofollow">in that effort in 2004 for Pennsylvania, and it was a bad joke</a>. Nader saw 75% knock out rates in Philadelphia and 65%+ in Pittsburgh.  His campaign experienced 50% + knock out rates throughout the state.  </p>
<p>I saw the Nader signature collectors near my office last week, and they still don't know what they are doing.  They are not asking people if they are registered to vote, they are not asking them to actually fill out the form completely (just sign and write your name is what they are doing) and I know they are getting duplicate signatures as I saw one individual sign a petition at my bus stop, and then sign the same damn petition 150 yards later near my coffee shop.  The QA sucks.  I severely doubt he'll be on the ballot.</p>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;    Plus, Ralph Nader’s running, too

Don&#039;t forget the Imperial ex-Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney running on the Green ticket. She can get the activist vote.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The combined Nader and Mckinney vote will not exceed 0.5% nationally nor will it exceed 2% in any state.  I could see Barr picking up 3-5% in several states.  The former will have no impact.  The latter might impact a couple of tight races, but I wouldn&#039;t bet on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    Plus, Ralph Nader&rsquo;s running, too</p>
<p>Don't forget the Imperial ex-Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney running on the Green ticket. She can get the activist vote.
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<p>The combined Nader and Mckinney vote will not exceed 0.5% nationally nor will it exceed 2% in any state.  I could see Barr picking up 3-5% in several states.  The former will have no impact.  The latter might impact a couple of tight races, but I wouldn't bet on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Plus, Ralph Nader’s running, too&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t forget the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_29%2C_2006_Capitol_Hill_Police_Incident&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Imperial&lt;/a&gt; ex-Congresswoman &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.runcynthiarun.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cynthia McKinney&lt;/a&gt; running on the Green ticket. She can get the activist vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Plus, Ralph Nader&rsquo;s running, too</p></blockquote>
<p>Don't forget the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_29%2C_2006_Capitol_Hill_Police_Incident" rel="nofollow">Imperial</a> ex-Congresswoman <a href="http://www.runcynthiarun.org/" rel="nofollow">Cynthia McKinney</a> running on the Green ticket. She can get the activist vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barr 294, Nader 230.

Watch this space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barr 294, Nader 230.</p>
<p>Watch this space.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Plus, Ralph Nader’s running, too, and will likely offset Barr in any case.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Nader will be lucky to get on the ballot in most states given that he isn&#039;t running on a party line.  Barr has already secured access in 30 states and will likely be on the ballot in 48.

Even if Nader gets on the ballot in significant states, the loony left already has its standard bearer, Hussein Osama, on the ballot so they are unlikely to jump to Crazy Ralph.

McCain is basically a liberal himself, so Barr offers a real alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Plus, Ralph Nader&rsquo;s running, too, and will likely offset Barr in any case.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nader will be lucky to get on the ballot in most states given that he isn't running on a party line.  Barr has already secured access in 30 states and will likely be on the ballot in 48.</p>
<p>Even if Nader gets on the ballot in significant states, the loony left already has its standard bearer, Hussein Osama, on the ballot so they are unlikely to jump to Crazy Ralph.</p>
<p>McCain is basically a liberal himself, so Barr offers a real alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barr will hopefully force McCain to pick Sanford or Palin as VP. Win or lose in November, the libertarian Republicans will take over the party as they must.

Socons are already sitting in the back of the bus behaving obediently (as they must because they are hostages to the fake abortion issue - the issue used by the oligarchy to pretend we have two parties running the country now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barr will hopefully force McCain to pick Sanford or Palin as VP. Win or lose in November, the libertarian Republicans will take over the party as they must.</p>
<p>Socons are already sitting in the back of the bus behaving obediently (as they must because they are hostages to the fake abortion issue - the issue used by the oligarchy to pretend we have two parties running the country now).</p>
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