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		<title>By: steve s</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Obama piss me off in the future? Undoubtedly. Will I complain about him over the next 4 years? Almost certainly. Am I relieved to have a president who is intellectually curious, pragmatic, and an expert on the Constitution? Incredibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Obama piss me off in the future? Undoubtedly. Will I complain about him over the next 4 years? Almost certainly. Am I relieved to have a president who is intellectually curious, pragmatic, and an expert on the Constitution? Incredibly.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the slightly more serious side... As one who gave Obama money and volunteered for him as well... I have checked out of all the hoopla... It is just a &lt;em&gt;little&lt;/em&gt; over the top (heavy on the sarcasm).

Still, I do intend to listen to him take the oath of office tomorrow (a moment of history) and listen to his inaugural speech (his rhetorical skills are undeniable).

As to the whole &quot;hope and change&quot; thing... he has so far proven himself to be just exactly what I thought he was... a pragmatic centrist with a leftward tilt. Is he, in the future, going to p*ss me off?

Of course. Does that mean I can not enjoy the moment tomorrow? Not hardly. After all, we could have had just another old white guy stuttering thru another green &quot;is that change we can beleive in&quot; speech with a sick sycophantic grin on his face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the slightly more serious side... As one who gave Obama money and volunteered for him as well... I have checked out of all the hoopla... It is just a <em>little</em> over the top (heavy on the sarcasm).</p>
<p>Still, I do intend to listen to him take the oath of office tomorrow (a moment of history) and listen to his inaugural speech (his rhetorical skills are undeniable).</p>
<p>As to the whole "hope and change" thing... he has so far proven himself to be just exactly what I thought he was... a pragmatic centrist with a leftward tilt. Is he, in the future, going to p*ss me off?</p>
<p>Of course. Does that mean I can not enjoy the moment tomorrow? Not hardly. After all, we could have had just another old white guy stuttering thru another green "is that change we can beleive in" speech with a sick sycophantic grin on his face.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Why in the world do you find the playing of the National Anthem at a sporting event &quot;mildly creepy&quot;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Because, outside the Olympics and similar competitions, it&#039;s just out of place. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
OK James, I have you pegged for the commie-pinko-jihadist you really are now. I mean, what are the last 2 words of the National Anthem?????

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&quot;PLAY BALL!&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

(I have to say I am with you on the hockey thing tho... Never heard the words, &quot;Play Puck!&quot; yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Why in the world do you find the playing of the National Anthem at a sporting event "mildly creepy"?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because, outside the Olympics and similar competitions, it's just out of place. </p></blockquote>
<p>OK James, I have you pegged for the commie-pinko-jihadist you really are now. I mean, what are the last 2 words of the National Anthem?????</p>
<p><em><strong>"PLAY BALL!"</strong></em></p>
<p>(I have to say I am with you on the hockey thing tho... Never heard the words, "Play Puck!" yet...</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While I find some aspects of Obama’s personality grating, he nonetheless strikes me as a genuinely decent human being.&quot;

Who would argue?  But we elected the leader of the free world, not a bar buddy.

&quot;And, while his lack of experience concerns me, he’s generally done a fantastic job of assembling a governing team.&quot;

Fantastic?  Good, perhaps, tax cheats and foreign policy neophytes aside.  But that experience gap is huge.  

&quot;Still, he’s just a man and almost every president — and that includes the sainted Ronald Reagan — fails to live up to the hopes they inspired in the campaign.&quot;

Absolutely, and why some of us deplore the constant slobbering over politicians, and govt, as the solution to our ills.

Politics seems a creepy form of sport.  Except the score actually matters......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"While I find some aspects of Obama&rsquo;s personality grating, he nonetheless strikes me as a genuinely decent human being."</p>
<p>Who would argue?  But we elected the leader of the free world, not a bar buddy.</p>
<p>"And, while his lack of experience concerns me, he&rsquo;s generally done a fantastic job of assembling a governing team."</p>
<p>Fantastic?  Good, perhaps, tax cheats and foreign policy neophytes aside.  But that experience gap is huge.  </p>
<p>"Still, he&rsquo;s just a man and almost every president — and that includes the sainted Ronald Reagan — fails to live up to the hopes they inspired in the campaign."</p>
<p>Absolutely, and why some of us deplore the constant slobbering over politicians, and govt, as the solution to our ills.</p>
<p>Politics seems a creepy form of sport.  Except the score actually matters......</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bag of Wind .Com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Bag of Wind .Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pageantry is fine.  Just don&#039;t have all the celebs show up in big SUVs and call it &quot;green.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pageantry is fine.  Just don't have all the celebs show up in big SUVs and call it "green."</p>
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		<title>By: Leisureguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leisureguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t find in the list an Obama promise regarding BCS. Could you provide the number?

Yes, he probably won&#039;t be able to keep all his promises, and I&#039;m sure Polifact will point out those (in the list) that he didn&#039;t keep. 

As you pointed out in your original post, Polifact did not credit Obama for No. 13---they made it clear that it was fulfilled back in October. Still, what should they do? He did in fact make the promise, and it did in fact happen. Which of the categories would you have chosen for No. 13? The choices:

    * Promise Kept
    * Compromise
    * Promise Broken
    * Stalled
    * In the Works
    * No Action</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn't find in the list an Obama promise regarding BCS. Could you provide the number?</p>
<p>Yes, he probably won't be able to keep all his promises, and I'm sure Polifact will point out those (in the list) that he didn't keep. </p>
<p>As you pointed out in your original post, Polifact did not credit Obama for No. 13---they made it clear that it was fulfilled back in October. Still, what should they do? He did in fact make the promise, and it did in fact happen. Which of the categories would you have chosen for No. 13? The choices:</p>
<p>    * Promise Kept<br />
    * Compromise<br />
    * Promise Broken<br />
    * Stalled<br />
    * In the Works<br />
    * No Action</p>
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		<title>By: Moonage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; assume your problem is with No. 13---but, as they say, it was a promise that Obama made, and that the Democratic Congress passed, and that Bush signed. So the promise is fulfilled.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With support like that, he can&#039;t lose huh?  I didn&#039;t say it was a &quot;problem&quot;, I said they were pushing him.  By pushing him, as with most media, they are putting unrealistic expectations on him via giving him credit for something he had nothing to do with.  He said he was going to solve the BCS issue as well.  The President nor Congress has anything to do with the BCS.  If the BCS decides to go to a playoff system, which the entire country has been demanding since that farce was created, I guess he&#039;ll get credit for that as well.  However, if they don&#039;t, is anyone going to blame Obama?  I mean, he has nothing to do with it.  Right?  Will everyone just forget all about the promise?  With the double-standard and hypocrisy media and others have shown for Obama, my point has been when people start realizing they are not going to get everything they expected right now, ie the stoners, it could get a lot uglier than it ever needed to be if the media et al had not made him out to be some messiah.  I just think the media especially needs to tone down their idol worship of the guy so that he has a chance to do what any mortal can do in a very difficult and often uncooperative environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> assume your problem is with No. 13---but, as they say, it was a promise that Obama made, and that the Democratic Congress passed, and that Bush signed. So the promise is fulfilled.</p></blockquote>
<p>With support like that, he can't lose huh?  I didn't say it was a "problem", I said they were pushing him.  By pushing him, as with most media, they are putting unrealistic expectations on him via giving him credit for something he had nothing to do with.  He said he was going to solve the BCS issue as well.  The President nor Congress has anything to do with the BCS.  If the BCS decides to go to a playoff system, which the entire country has been demanding since that farce was created, I guess he'll get credit for that as well.  However, if they don't, is anyone going to blame Obama?  I mean, he has nothing to do with it.  Right?  Will everyone just forget all about the promise?  With the double-standard and hypocrisy media and others have shown for Obama, my point has been when people start realizing they are not going to get everything they expected right now, ie the stoners, it could get a lot uglier than it ever needed to be if the media et al had not made him out to be some messiah.  I just think the media especially needs to tone down their idol worship of the guy so that he has a chance to do what any mortal can do in a very difficult and often uncooperative environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Leisureguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leisureguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is just one man, but he&#039;s the leader of what looks like an awfully good administration team. And so far Congress looks as though it strongly supports him. 

I don&#039;t quite understand the remark about Polifact giving Obama credit for legislation he had nothing to do with---they show only 2 promises kept (so far):

No. 13: Require taxpayers to report more detail on capital gains taxes

No. 503: Appoint at least one Republican to the cabinet

I assume your problem is with No. 13---but, as they say, it was a promise that Obama made, and that the Democratic Congress passed, and that Bush signed. So the promise is fulfilled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is just one man, but he's the leader of what looks like an awfully good administration team. And so far Congress looks as though it strongly supports him. </p>
<p>I don't quite understand the remark about Polifact giving Obama credit for legislation he had nothing to do with---they show only 2 promises kept (so far):</p>
<p>No. 13: Require taxpayers to report more detail on capital gains taxes</p>
<p>No. 503: Appoint at least one Republican to the cabinet</p>
<p>I assume your problem is with No. 13---but, as they say, it was a promise that Obama made, and that the Democratic Congress passed, and that Bush signed. So the promise is fulfilled.</p>
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		<title>By: Moonage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moonage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew, even politifact (sp?) is pushing Obama.  They are giving him credit for legislation he had nothing to do with.  They even admit it.  Given the mountain of expectations ( they list 500 or so promises ), he&#039;s going to have issues.  I mean, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2009/01/13/stoners-dissing-obama-already/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stoners&lt;/a&gt; are already dissing him because he hasn&#039;t made legalizing pot his #1 priority.  With so many promises, even if he tries to keep them all, people will probably be disgruntled over who gets their promises ( read &quot;hopes&quot; )the quickest.  And, as you note, he is only a man among many in DC.  He may have the bully puplit, but he doesn&#039;t have a single vote in either House.  Of those 500 promises, the majority of legislators may not go along with them all.  What will he, they, do then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew, even politifact (sp?) is pushing Obama.  They are giving him credit for legislation he had nothing to do with.  They even admit it.  Given the mountain of expectations ( they list 500 or so promises ), he's going to have issues.  I mean, the <a href="http://politics.moonagewebdream.com/2009/01/13/stoners-dissing-obama-already/" rel="nofollow">Stoners</a> are already dissing him because he hasn't made legalizing pot his #1 priority.  With so many promises, even if he tries to keep them all, people will probably be disgruntled over who gets their promises ( read "hopes" )the quickest.  And, as you note, he is only a man among many in DC.  He may have the bully puplit, but he doesn't have a single vote in either House.  Of those 500 promises, the majority of legislators may not go along with them all.  What will he, they, do then?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why in the world do you find the playing of the National Anthem at a sporting event &quot;mildly creepy&quot;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because, outside the Olympics and similar competitions, it&#039;s just out of place.  Hell, some of our baseball and hockey teams are comprised primarily of non-Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why in the world do you find the playing of the National Anthem at a sporting event "mildly creepy"?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because, outside the Olympics and similar competitions, it's just out of place.  Hell, some of our baseball and hockey teams are comprised primarily of non-Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why in the world do you find the playing of the National Anthem at a sporting event &quot;mildly creepy&quot;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I find it to be a great opportunity.  Its the best time hit the beer stand--no lines.  Let all those lapel-pin wearing saps belt it out Rosanne-style.  I&#039;m stocking up on cold ones!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why in the world do you find the playing of the National Anthem at a sporting event "mildly creepy"?</p></blockquote>
<p>I find it to be a great opportunity.  Its the best time hit the beer stand--no lines.  Let all those lapel-pin wearing saps belt it out Rosanne-style.  I'm stocking up on cold ones!</p>
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		<title>By: Staring In Disbelief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staring In Disbelief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world do you find the playing of the National Anthem at a sporting event &quot;mildly creepy&quot;?</description>
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		<title>By: od</title>
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		<dc:creator>od</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its curious Tom Smith leaves Reagan out of his criticism (though he was a pretty good president, like any political leader he made many mistakes) - seems he&#039;s subject to the same hero worship as those he criticizes, just with different heroes.  They&#039;re all just human, and they all have their faults.  Obama worship is over the top, but so is the worship of every previous president, including those he mentioned but also Reagan, Eisenhower, FDR and all the way back to Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington.

He kind of weakens his argument with his inconsistency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its curious Tom Smith leaves Reagan out of his criticism (though he was a pretty good president, like any political leader he made many mistakes) - seems he's subject to the same hero worship as those he criticizes, just with different heroes.  They're all just human, and they all have their faults.  Obama worship is over the top, but so is the worship of every previous president, including those he mentioned but also Reagan, Eisenhower, FDR and all the way back to Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington.</p>
<p>He kind of weakens his argument with his inconsistency.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am tired of the hoopla, but then I don&#039;t blame Obama for that-I think it is a product of the 24 hour new cycle.

I think the media has been overly adoring of Obama, and I am curious to see how long this adoration lasts once Obama owns it all come noon tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am tired of the hoopla, but then I don't blame Obama for that-I think it is a product of the 24 hour new cycle.</p>
<p>I think the media has been overly adoring of Obama, and I am curious to see how long this adoration lasts once Obama owns it all come noon tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: James M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately people are looking for a savior and with unobtainable expectations I might add.  He has a lot expected of him and I think everyone will be greatly disappointed.  He seems to be a very decent guy with heartfelt sincerity but in the end he is only a man that inherited a lot of problems which in no way conceivable be rectified in 4 years.  I wish him luck because, even though I didn&#039;t vote for him, he is my President and I need him to succeed for mine and my country&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately people are looking for a savior and with unobtainable expectations I might add.  He has a lot expected of him and I think everyone will be greatly disappointed.  He seems to be a very decent guy with heartfelt sincerity but in the end he is only a man that inherited a lot of problems which in no way conceivable be rectified in 4 years.  I wish him luck because, even though I didn't vote for him, he is my President and I need him to succeed for mine and my country's sake.</p>
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