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Obama Gets His Bounce

Barack Obama has gotten his predictable (in the sense that I predicted it) bounce in the polls after having emerged as the presumptive Democratic nominee and Hillary Clinton formally conceded and backed him, helping begin the healing process within the party. According to the latest Gallup poll, he’s up 48-42 nationwide among registered voters. Indeed, Obama is at least nominally ahead of McCain in every single poll tracked by RealClearPolitics, with an average lead of 4.2 percent.

Andrew Sullivan notes that this is Obama’s “strongest showing to date in the Gallup poll.” That’s technically true but misleading: The two candidates have been steady, fluctuating only within the margin of error, since it became clear that Obama would win.

Gallup Obama-McCain 9 June 2008

Indeed, Daniel Larison is surprised at just how small the bounce is.

Kevin Drum, meanwhile, is willing to “bet that Obama never has much less than a five point lead for the rest of the campaign.” That’s plausible but unlikely. My guess is that Obama will build a double digit lead over the next few weeks as Democrats coalesce around him but that his numbers will fluctuate dramatically based on events on the ground. McCain will almost certainly get a convention bounce late. Beyond that, Obama will make the inevitable gaffes candidates make during a long, grueling campaign and he’s more prone to embarrassing revelations than McCain simply because he’s less of a known commodity.

UPDATE: And, yes, as commenter vnjagvet points out below, John Kerry had a much larger lead four years ago than Obama does now. Indeed, as I noted a few days ago, it would have been a a Kerry landslide win had the election been held May 29, 2004. The gap had narrowed slightly by four years ago today but Kerry was still projected to win 312 electoral votes to Bush’s 226 on June 9. Those same projections show it Obama 287, McCain 227 today.

About the Author: James Joyner is the publisher of Outside the Beltway and the managing editor of the Atlantic Council. He's a former Army officer, Desert Storm vet, and college professor with a PhD in political science from The University of Alabama. He lives just outside the Beltway in Alexandria, Virginia.

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Just for a bit of perspective:

June 3-6 Gallup poll in 2004:

Kerry 50%
Bush 44%

Posted by vnjagvet | June 9, 2008 | 06:33 pm | Permalink
 

ANY lead that Obama has shows just what idiots the voters are.

Obama may go down in history as the biggest empty suit EVER

Posted by Christopher | June 9, 2008 | 08:18 pm | Permalink
 

As to how things go from here to the end is anybody's guess...

But I feel the need to point out that yes, Obama will make the inevitable gaffes (and maybe even a few unpleasant "facts" will come out)but so will McCain...

Like his speech last Tuesday???? (Gawd... even I was embarressed) and when it comes to unpleasant facts.... McCain has a long record (can any one say "Keating 5")... Is any one surprised by why the right is so uncomfortable with him (despite his agreeing with Bush 95% of the time in the past year???) which will alienate the 70+% of those who think Bush is wrong on this that or the other.

Minus a meteor hitting the Obama express dead on, McCain is toast.

His base hates him because 5% of the time he votes against Bush, 70% of the rest of the country hates Bush, and because McCain votes with Bush 95% of the time, him too. So what does that leave him with???

I will only say that it will be a lot closer because of the "Bradley" effect than it would otherwise be.

Posted by tom p | June 9, 2008 | 08:25 pm | Permalink
 

June 3-6 Gallup poll in 2004:

Kerry 50%
Bush 44%

Meaningless. Bush was running as an incumbent. McCain is running amidst the wreckage of Bush's policies.

Obama may go down in history as the biggest empty suit EVER

The stupidity of the "empty suit" line is self-evident. The Clinton political machine beat on the GOP with great regularity. Obama took it apart in a contest that began with Hillary holding every advantage.

Posted by anjin-san | June 9, 2008 | 08:26 pm | Permalink
 

A very unpopular incumbent at that point in the election, AS. And more unpopular now, if the polls mean anything.

With all of that, and with a far more charismatic and exciting candidate than the lamented JFKERRY, who has just vanquished a woman of some skill as a politician for the nomination, I would have expected a bit more of a bump than the sainted one has received.

Your argument eludes me, but it might be a bit subtle for a man of my advanced age.

Posted by vnjagvet | June 9, 2008 | 09:20 pm | Permalink
 

John Kerry had a much larger lead four years ago than Obama does now

Not to pick nits, but it wasn't a much larger lead. In fact, it was exactly the same: six points.

Posted by Pug | June 9, 2008 | 09:24 pm | Permalink
 

the sainted one

What on Earth are you talking about?

Posted by anjin-san | June 9, 2008 | 09:30 pm | Permalink
 

Sorry AjinSan. I thought from reading all of the press paeans last week and this past weekend that the Democratic candidate for President had just been beatified.

Am I mistaken?

Posted by vnjagvet | June 9, 2008 | 10:36 pm | Permalink
 

"Anjin-san" sorry.

Posted by vnjagvet | June 9, 2008 | 10:38 pm | Permalink
 

I thought from reading all of the press paeans last week and this past weekend that the Democratic candidate for President had just been beatified.

It's cool vn... when I see how utterly weak the attacks on Obama in here are... well, it gives me a nice warm feeling about November.

Posted by anjin-san | June 9, 2008 | 11:23 pm | Permalink
 

Except for Christopher's brief comment, who was attacking anyone? We were analyzing data, weren't we?

Posted by vnjagvet | June 9, 2008 | 11:33 pm | Permalink
 

beatified

the sainted one

Funny, I can't remember these from statistics...

We were analyzing data, weren't we?

Come now, don't run from your own remarks...

Posted by anjin-san | June 9, 2008 | 11:55 pm | Permalink
 

beatified
the sainted one

Funny, I can't remember these from statistics...

We were analyzing data, weren't we?

Come now, don't run from your own remarks...

How can you construe my implied criticism of hagiographic press coverage as an "attack" on Senator Obama?

Are you suggesting the coverage of his nomination victory in the LAT, the NYT, CNN or MSNBC has not been overwhelmingly positive?

Far from running away from my remarks, I reiterate. I am surprised that Obama is not trouncing his far older and less charismatic rival -- one who clings to many of the policies of a hated administration -- in a more convincing fashion.

That is not an "attack". It is a statement of my honest opinion.

Posted by vnjagvet | June 10, 2008 | 12:33 am | Permalink
 

I wasn't attacking anyone. Just stating a fact. Obama is an empty suit. Someone tell me one intelligent policy he has come up with that has been proven to work ever in the past anywhere.

See? Empty suit.

Posted by Christopher | June 10, 2008 | 02:01 am | Permalink
 

Someone tell me one intelligent policy he has come up with that has been proven to work ever in the past anywhere.

Well, concentrating on small states and caucus states worked out pretty well for him. Oh, and he was the only candidate who was against a gas tax holiday, which every expert said was a bad idea to begin with. Oh, and he's for open discussions with foreign leaders, which also has a lot of support both historically and from current experts. I'm particularly fond of his policies involving technology too.

Posted by Michael | June 10, 2008 | 08:45 am | Permalink
 

Campaign strategies are NOT policies for running the country! OMG what a nerd you are!

You remind me of the Kennedy biographer who said presidential candidates should have experience, and that he supported Obama. When asked what he thought was Obama's experience, he said that it takes a lot to run a national presidential campaign. Soooo.....Obama's experience to be president was his actual running for president! LOL!!!! I would be funny if it wasn't so downright scary.

Posted by Christopher | June 10, 2008 | 02:54 pm | Permalink
 
Posted by Greg | June 10, 2008 | 03:10 pm | Permalink
 

Hmm, lets see..."intelligent", "he has come up with", "proven to work"....Nope, you didn't mention "governing" anywhere in there.

Posted by Michael | June 10, 2008 | 03:15 pm | Permalink
 

Michael,
It should be noted that neither McCain or Obama have executive experience along the lines of a governor. So your point is nonsensical.

Posted by Micheline | June 10, 2008 | 03:46 pm | Permalink
 

Micheline, my point is that Christopher asked for nonspecific "policy", then complained that my examples were not "governing policy". To that point, my post was satirical but quite sensible.

Posted by Michael | June 10, 2008 | 03:58 pm | Permalink
 

Watch for the stand-alone polls to come out. Those tend to show more dramatic moves than the tracking polls. I have no idea why this is, but the Rasmussen and Gallup trackers have been extremely steady throughout this season. They seem to have low betas.

Posted by Elrod | June 10, 2008 | 04:53 pm | Permalink
 

I don't buy the argument that Obama is more likely to make on-the-trail gaffes. McCain is at least as likely to make mistakes or, worse, deny that he has made a mistake that he has in fact made. Witness his denial of commenting on HRC's treatment by the media.

Also, I haven't seen it discussed much but don't you think that a 46 year old man in good health is simply going to be able to outwork a 71/72 year old (even if he is active for his age)? If I am managing Obama, I would look to schedule more events in more states than McCain is able to keep up with. Either you get more coverage or, if McCain tries to match your schedule, McCain becomes even more likely to commit gaffes.

Posted by Bill | June 10, 2008 | 05:18 pm | Permalink
 

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