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		<title>By: VIVIAN BERRYHILL</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_has_black_conservatives_conflicted_/comment-page-1/#comment-415273</link>
		<dc:creator>VIVIAN BERRYHILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Plight of Black Republicans... GOPs Need To Worry

The national spotlight is quickly focusing on what has customarily been an ignored ... and often &quot;unappreciated&quot; constituent base: Black Republicans. With Senator Barack Obama&#039;s foot literally on the doorstep of the White House, some Black Republicans find themselves betwixt and between in this election cycle.
 
The angst so many Black Republicans now face is: 1) not wanting to be on the wrong side of history by not casting their vote for someone who looks like them and whose very cultural roots are entwined... and, 2) not wanting to be viewed––––any worse than already labeled by Black Democrats–– as &quot;Uncle Toms&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Plight of Black Republicans... GOPs Need To Worry</p>
<p>The national spotlight is quickly focusing on what has customarily been an ignored ... and often "unappreciated" constituent base: Black Republicans. With Senator Barack Obama's foot literally on the doorstep of the White House, some Black Republicans find themselves betwixt and between in this election cycle.</p>
<p>The angst so many Black Republicans now face is: 1) not wanting to be on the wrong side of history by not casting their vote for someone who looks like them and whose very cultural roots are entwined... and, 2) not wanting to be viewed––––any worse than already labeled by Black Democrats–– as "Uncle Toms".</p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_has_black_conservatives_conflicted_/comment-page-1/#comment-415163</link>
		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what?
How many black conservative votes exist, anyway?
In battleground states?
20,200,2000?

If blacks vote for a black, that&#039;s a good thing
because of:
slavery?
hip-hop?
solidarity?
Whatever.

But if I vote for a white candidate, I&#039;m a RACIST KKK&#039;er.

If Obama gets every black vote, every academic vote, every media vote, every public employee vote and doesn&#039;t get much of anyone else (white people with real jobs), he loses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what?<br />
How many black conservative votes exist, anyway?<br />
In battleground states?<br />
20,200,2000?</p>
<p>If blacks vote for a black, that's a good thing<br />
because of:<br />
slavery?<br />
hip-hop?<br />
solidarity?<br />
Whatever.</p>
<p>But if I vote for a white candidate, I'm a RACIST KKK'er.</p>
<p>If Obama gets every black vote, every academic vote, every media vote, every public employee vote and doesn't get much of anyone else (white people with real jobs), he loses.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it come down to a choice...
 Vote with your skin or vote with your brain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it come down to a choice...<br />
 Vote with your skin or vote with your brain!</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_has_black_conservatives_conflicted_/comment-page-1/#comment-414674</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I remember that early in Bush&#039;s first term there was quite a bit of talk about a Powell presidency, and at the time most people I talked to, Liberal and Conservative, were positive about the idea. The only animosity I hear about him from the black community was largely due to the perception that he provided racial cover to President Bush, who was seen as unsympathetic to the black community&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ohhh... is &lt;em&gt;THAT&lt;/em&gt; what they mean by &#039;Uncle Tom&#039;? I did wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I remember that early in Bush's first term there was quite a bit of talk about a Powell presidency, and at the time most people I talked to, Liberal and Conservative, were positive about the idea. The only animosity I hear about him from the black community was largely due to the perception that he provided racial cover to President Bush, who was seen as unsympathetic to the black community</p></blockquote>
<p>Ohhh... is <em>THAT</em> what they mean by 'Uncle Tom'? I did wonder.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_has_black_conservatives_conflicted_/comment-page-1/#comment-414548</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of itself, perhaps. But why can&#039;t we be having this discussion over the candidacy of Thomas Sowell? And Jamie points this up rather well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I remember that early in Bush&#039;s first term there was quite a bit of talk about a Powell presidency, and at the time most people I talked to, Liberal and Conservative, were positive about the idea.  The only animosity I hear about him from the black community was largely due to the perception that he provided racial cover to President Bush, who was seen as unsympathetic to the black community.  

Of course the events leading up to the Iraq war pretty much soured him on the idea of staying in politics, which was a big loss for the Republican party in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of itself, perhaps. But why can't we be having this discussion over the candidacy of Thomas Sowell? And Jamie points this up rather well.</p></blockquote>
<p>I remember that early in Bush's first term there was quite a bit of talk about a Powell presidency, and at the time most people I talked to, Liberal and Conservative, were positive about the idea.  The only animosity I hear about him from the black community was largely due to the perception that he provided racial cover to President Bush, who was seen as unsympathetic to the black community.  </p>
<p>Of course the events leading up to the Iraq war pretty much soured him on the idea of staying in politics, which was a big loss for the Republican party in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Out of curiosity, why wouldn&#039;t you say that they&#039;re trending Democratic?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Because in such a phrase, it could be interpreted as saying that they do not currently have democratic representation in government.  A member of the &quot;Democratic&quot; party is referred to as a &quot;Democrat&quot;, so saying they are &quot;trending Democrat&quot; is easily understood as meaning they are leaning towards members of the &quot;Democratic&quot; party.

People should not use &quot;Democrat Party&quot; as an under-the-radar jab at their opposition, but at the same time people should not get upset about something so inconsequential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you say that they're trending Democratic?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because in such a phrase, it could be interpreted as saying that they do not currently have democratic representation in government.  A member of the "Democratic" party is referred to as a "Democrat", so saying they are "trending Democrat" is easily understood as meaning they are leaning towards members of the "Democratic" party.</p>
<p>People should not use "Democrat Party" as an under-the-radar jab at their opposition, but at the same time people should not get upset about something so inconsequential.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if blacks who disagree with Senator Obama&#039;s politics vote for him just because he is black, then it makes sense that whites should vote for the white candidate. 

The press would serve us well by ceasing to write these race based stories and concentrate on issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if blacks who disagree with Senator Obama's politics vote for him just because he is black, then it makes sense that whites should vote for the white candidate. </p>
<p>The press would serve us well by ceasing to write these race based stories and concentrate on issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_has_black_conservatives_conflicted_/comment-page-1/#comment-413971</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No. Look, if whites were anywhere nearly as racist as blacks, Obama wouldn&#039;t stand a chance. The fact that he is considered to be the front runner proves that whites overwhelmingly reject racism (despite the MSM spin on the subject). I think that&#039;s reason to rejoice. Don&#039;t you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of itself, perhaps. But why can&#039;t we be having this discussion over the candidacy of Thomas Sowell? And Jamie points this up rather well.

And I wonder how the perception of black racism would be now, and would we be considering blacks conflicted, were one of the folks as Jamie lists nominated, instead?
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;There&#039;s another good reason for black conservatives (actually all conservatives) to be conflicted. There is no conservative in the race. McCain, like Governor Schwartzenegger, is basically a liberal. Wouldn&#039;t it be better to elect a black president just to get that issue behind us once and for all?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suppose that to depend on our ability to survive him. Not because he&#039;s black, but because of his politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No. Look, if whites were anywhere nearly as racist as blacks, Obama wouldn't stand a chance. The fact that he is considered to be the front runner proves that whites overwhelmingly reject racism (despite the MSM spin on the subject). I think that's reason to rejoice. Don't you?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of itself, perhaps. But why can't we be having this discussion over the candidacy of Thomas Sowell? And Jamie points this up rather well.</p>
<p>And I wonder how the perception of black racism would be now, and would we be considering blacks conflicted, were one of the folks as Jamie lists nominated, instead?</p>
<blockquote><p>There's another good reason for black conservatives (actually all conservatives) to be conflicted. There is no conservative in the race. McCain, like Governor Schwartzenegger, is basically a liberal. Wouldn't it be better to elect a black president just to get that issue behind us once and for all?</p></blockquote>
<p>I suppose that to depend on our ability to survive him. Not because he's black, but because of his politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How someone like Colin Powell can say that Obama is as qualified to be President as McCain, astounds me. Anyone who votes for Obama is absolutely overlooking experience - they have to be, because he has none. People will vote for him because he is a novelty and a &quot;first&quot;. My God, what a reason - what a travesty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How someone like Colin Powell can say that Obama is as qualified to be President as McCain, astounds me. Anyone who votes for Obama is absolutely overlooking experience - they have to be, because he has none. People will vote for him because he is a novelty and a "first". My God, what a reason - what a travesty!</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the policies and positions that count, and anyone that votes by race alone is not particularly bright in this matter, to understate the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's the policies and positions that count, and anyone that votes by race alone is not particularly bright in this matter, to understate the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What upsets me is the opposite is not true.  Black conservatives want to vote for Obama because he is the first black with a good chance of becoming president.  but many black liberals I know personally have expressed a bitter animosity towards Colin Powell, J. C. Watts, Condi Rice, and Clarence Thomas as traitors to their race for being conservatives even though they have reach high career pinnacles, Powell even being the first black Secretary of State.

Maybe I am wrong--I would certainly like to be--but if the republicans had nominated a black man for president, no one would hate him more than blacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What upsets me is the opposite is not true.  Black conservatives want to vote for Obama because he is the first black with a good chance of becoming president.  but many black liberals I know personally have expressed a bitter animosity towards Colin Powell, J. C. Watts, Condi Rice, and Clarence Thomas as traitors to their race for being conservatives even though they have reach high career pinnacles, Powell even being the first black Secretary of State.</p>
<p>Maybe I am wrong--I would certainly like to be--but if the republicans had nominated a black man for president, no one would hate him more than blacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama will split the black conservative Republican vote? The GOP may never be recognizable again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama will split the black conservative Republican vote? The GOP may never be recognizable again!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...such as North Carolina and Virginia, both of which are trending Democrat&quot;

Out of curiosity, why wouldn&#039;t you say that they&#039;re trending Democratic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"...such as North Carolina and Virginia, both of which are trending Democrat"</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you say that they're trending Democratic?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minorities and females will never be thought of and treated as equal until we start treating them that way. The fact Obama is black, part black or whatever should be nothing more than a footnote. What amazing is that the people who are so big on equal treatment are usually the ones who give special treatment and that doesn’t promote equal treatment. I like the way Dungy acted when he won the Super Bowl. He acknowledged and was proud of being the first black to do so but didn’t concentrate on that one thing like the MSM like to do. 

It reminds me of the military when many assume a female Commander made rank simply because they were female. Unfortunately there were cases when this was true.  More unfortunate was the many highly competent female Commanders who were painted with the same broad brush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minorities and females will never be thought of and treated as equal until we start treating them that way. The fact Obama is black, part black or whatever should be nothing more than a footnote. What amazing is that the people who are so big on equal treatment are usually the ones who give special treatment and that doesn&rsquo;t promote equal treatment. I like the way Dungy acted when he won the Super Bowl. He acknowledged and was proud of being the first black to do so but didn&rsquo;t concentrate on that one thing like the MSM like to do. </p>
<p>It reminds me of the military when many assume a female Commander made rank simply because they were female. Unfortunately there were cases when this was true.  More unfortunate was the many highly competent female Commanders who were painted with the same broad brush.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not race, it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/14/its-not-race-its-arugula/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Arugula&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's not race, it's <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/14/its-not-race-its-arugula/" rel="nofollow">Arugula</a>.</p>
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