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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_in_exxons_pocket/comment-page-1/#comment-492829</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/5cd5el&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the 24 Exxon employees&lt;/a&gt; who gave to Obama   &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/6zpgmf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the 11&lt;/a&gt; who gave to McCain.

I don&#039;t know, Zels, there&#039;s a whole lot of shift managers there in Obama&#039;s camp.  None in McCains.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/59nnnj&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the 3 for McCain&lt;/a&gt; from Big O Tires.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/5u5fa5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the one for Obama&lt;/a&gt;

Advantage Zelsdorf!

Although I have no frickin&#039; idea what you&#039;re trying to prove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5cd5el" rel="nofollow">Here's the 24 Exxon employees</a> who gave to Obama   <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6zpgmf" rel="nofollow">Here's the 11</a> who gave to McCain.</p>
<p>I don't know, Zels, there's a whole lot of shift managers there in Obama's camp.  None in McCains.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/59nnnj" rel="nofollow">Here's the 3 for McCain</a> from Big O Tires.  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5u5fa5" rel="nofollow">Here's the one for Obama</a></p>
<p>Advantage Zelsdorf!</p>
<p>Although I have no frickin' idea what you're trying to prove.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They track which employees give to whom, by the requirement you reveal your employer when donated amount reaches a certain threshold.  I believe it is around $100.00.  Lesser amounts remain anonymous as far as who you work for.  Must be a lot of big givers at Exxon.  Suprised there are not more donations to Obama from Big O Tire company employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They track which employees give to whom, by the requirement you reveal your employer when donated amount reaches a certain threshold.  I believe it is around $100.00.  Lesser amounts remain anonymous as far as who you work for.  Must be a lot of big givers at Exxon.  Suprised there are not more donations to Obama from Big O Tire company employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops.  not &lt;strong&gt;B&lt;/strong&gt;oyd, &lt;strong&gt;F&lt;/strong&gt;loyd.

Sorry Boyd ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops.  not <strong>B</strong>oyd, <strong>F</strong>loyd.</p>
<p>Sorry Boyd ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I doubt they could even track that. I have never included my employer&#039;s name when making political contributions and I was employed by XOM for 35years.&lt;/em&gt;

Um, gee.  I&#039;ve given quite a bit and every time I did I had to give my job title and employer.  Every time.  Now, maybe you were able to get away with it, and I&#039;m sure they can&#039;t verify that yes, that is your job title and your actual employer.

But you&#039;re completely wrong here on the facts, Boyd.  Completely wrong.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.miamifly.net/interactive/campaign/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You can even do your search on the net&lt;/a&gt;.  You&#039;ll note you can do it by employer.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.miamifly.net/interactive/campaign/index.php?search=contrib&amp;lastQual=starts+with&amp;last=&amp;firstQual=starts+with&amp;first=&amp;occupationQual=starts+with&amp;occupation=&amp;employerQual=starts+with&amp;employer=Exxon&amp;addressQual=starts+with&amp;address=&amp;cityQual=starts+with&amp;city=&amp;stateQual=starts+with&amp;state=&amp;submit=Search&amp;pos=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the search for any contributions with &quot;Exxon&quot; in the employer slot&lt;/a&gt;

Check out the job titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I doubt they could even track that. I have never included my employer's name when making political contributions and I was employed by XOM for 35years.</em></p>
<p>Um, gee.  I've given quite a bit and every time I did I had to give my job title and employer.  Every time.  Now, maybe you were able to get away with it, and I'm sure they can't verify that yes, that is your job title and your actual employer.</p>
<p>But you're completely wrong here on the facts, Boyd.  Completely wrong.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.miamifly.net/interactive/campaign/" rel="nofollow">You can even do your search on the net</a>.  You'll note you can do it by employer.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.miamifly.net/interactive/campaign/index.php?search=contrib&amp;lastQual=starts+with&amp;last=&amp;firstQual=starts+with&amp;first=&amp;occupationQual=starts+with&amp;occupation=&amp;employerQual=starts+with&amp;employer=Exxon&amp;addressQual=starts+with&amp;address=&amp;cityQual=starts+with&amp;city=&amp;stateQual=starts+with&amp;state=&amp;submit=Search&amp;pos=0" rel="nofollow">Here's the search for any contributions with "Exxon" in the employer slot</a></p>
<p>Check out the job titles.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term &quot;Exxon-Mobile{sic} employees&quot; must be referring to ExxonMobil representatives supplying company money, or money given in the name of it&#039;s officers as surrogates for the company.

 Nobody would consider a field mechanic&#039;s $50 as an ExxonMobil donation, I doubt they could even track that. I have never included my employer&#039;s name when making political contributions and I was employed by XOM for 35years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term "Exxon-Mobile{sic} employees" must be referring to ExxonMobil representatives supplying company money, or money given in the name of it's officers as surrogates for the company.</p>
<p> Nobody would consider a field mechanic's $50 as an ExxonMobil donation, I doubt they could even track that. I have never included my employer's name when making political contributions and I was employed by XOM for 35years.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Explain it all to us and prove me wrong.&lt;/em&gt;

Guess you&#039;re showing your complete lack of reading comprehension again.  I already did.

Nice try, though.  Drop back ten and punt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Explain it all to us and prove me wrong.</em></p>
<p>Guess you're showing your complete lack of reading comprehension again.  I already did.</p>
<p>Nice try, though.  Drop back ten and punt.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think you don&#039;t understand the logical relationship.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thta&#039;s certainly possible. But I have my doubts you do, either. Explain it all to us and prove me wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think you don't understand the logical relationship.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thta's certainly possible. But I have my doubts you do, either. Explain it all to us and prove me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;do you think Obama saying one thing while doing another is some sort of isolated incident?&lt;/em&gt;

I think you don&#039;t understand the logical relationship.  You&#039;re making an inference that is completely unjustified by the objective facts.  You can make this inference and use it as a launching pad if you like, but it doesn&#039;t change the fact that you&#039;re just making stuff up to launch a completely unrelated diatribe.

&lt;em&gt;I know you will have a hard time following this&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s a lot harder when you not even trying to play by the rules of logic.  But no, I follow you just fine.  I just simply don&#039;t agree with you, don&#039;t think you&#039;re even providing the thinnest patina of a valid argument and are simply on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCain&#039;s comment troll point plan&lt;/a&gt;, trying to win some valuable McCain prizes for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>do you think Obama saying one thing while doing another is some sort of isolated incident?</em></p>
<p>I think you don't understand the logical relationship.  You're making an inference that is completely unjustified by the objective facts.  You can make this inference and use it as a launching pad if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that you're just making stuff up to launch a completely unrelated diatribe.</p>
<p><em>I know you will have a hard time following this</em></p>
<p>It's a lot harder when you not even trying to play by the rules of logic.  But no, I follow you just fine.  I just simply don't agree with you, don't think you're even providing the thinnest patina of a valid argument and are simply on <a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx" rel="nofollow">McCain's comment troll point plan</a>, trying to win some valuable McCain prizes for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal, do you think Obama saying one thing while doing another is some sort of isolated incident?  Recall, if you will, Barrack&#039;s statements on opposition to NAFTA to those in states who might believe the treaty had hurt their industries.  Remember?  Now recall he sent Goolsby to Canada to tell those folks he was just campaigning and they should not worry about NAFTA reversal.  I know you will have a hard time following this, but if you try you may come to understand Obama&#039;s compass spins like a top.  I think he is always going left, but he is very likely to make a right turn from the far left lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal, do you think Obama saying one thing while doing another is some sort of isolated incident?  Recall, if you will, Barrack's statements on opposition to NAFTA to those in states who might believe the treaty had hurt their industries.  Remember?  Now recall he sent Goolsby to Canada to tell those folks he was just campaigning and they should not worry about NAFTA reversal.  I know you will have a hard time following this, but if you try you may come to understand Obama's compass spins like a top.  I think he is always going left, but he is very likely to make a right turn from the far left lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;To the extent they were accurate to begin with, the fact that the company’s employees gave slightly more to Obama is irrelevant.&lt;/em&gt;

Not as well as I should, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>To the extent they were accurate to begin with, the fact that the company&rsquo;s employees gave slightly more to Obama is irrelevant.</em></p>
<p>Not as well as I should, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Seriously, James. Do you actually believe this stuff?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Seriously, Hal. Do you actually read posts before commenting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seriously, James. Do you actually believe this stuff?</p></blockquote>
<p>Seriously, Hal. Do you actually read posts before commenting?</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Exxon employees?  So, let me get this straight.  The inference here is that the *employees* of Exxon are somehow the representative of Exxon?  I work for House Harkonnen.  Whom I give to has nothing to do with House Harkonnen.  Anyone who would infer that because more employees of House Harkonnen give to Obama, therefore Obama is in the pocket of House Harkonnen has an understanding of logic approximately at the level of Dr. Bithead.

Seriously, James.  Do you actually believe this stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Exxon employees?  So, let me get this straight.  The inference here is that the *employees* of Exxon are somehow the representative of Exxon?  I work for House Harkonnen.  Whom I give to has nothing to do with House Harkonnen.  Anyone who would infer that because more employees of House Harkonnen give to Obama, therefore Obama is in the pocket of House Harkonnen has an understanding of logic approximately at the level of Dr. Bithead.</p>
<p>Seriously, James.  Do you actually believe this stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: jadx808 (jadx808)</title>
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