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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_inauguration_goes_in_the_toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-620382</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 06:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Verify some numbers and I will apologize: otherwise, I will stand as stated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.taxfoundation.org/press/show/22659.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ask and ye shall receive.&lt;/a&gt;

This is from 2005, so it&#039;s slightly old, but the actual report was released in October 2007:

Top Ten Hinterland States (i.e., non-coast states) in terms of the ratio of federal dollars received versus federal taxes paid, and numbered by their rank as compared to all the states in the Union, with an additional description of whether they went Democratic in the Presidential Election of 2008 or Republican:

1. New Mexico - $2.03 (Democratic)
5. West Virginia - $1.76 (Republican)
6. North Dakota - $1.68 (Republican)
8. South Dakota - $1.53 (Republican)
9. Kentucky - $1.51 (Republican)
11.Montana - $1.47 (Republican)
14. Arkansas - $1.41 (Republican)
15. Oklahoma- $1.36 (Republican)
17. Missouri - $1.32 (Democratic)
19. Tennessee - $1.27 (Republican)

Top Ten Coast States in terms of the above criteria:

2. Mississippi - $2.02 (Republican)
3. Alaska - $1.84 (Republican)
4. Louisiana - $1.78 (Republican)
7. Alabama - $1.66 - (Republican)
10. Virginia - $1.51 - (Democratic)
12. Hawaii - $1.44 (Democratic)
13. Maine - $1.41 - (Democratic)
16. South Carolina - $1.35 (Republican)
18. Maryland - $1.30 (Democratic)
26. Vermont - $1.08 (Democratic)

Moreover, out of the 17 states that received less than $1 in federal outlays for every $1 they sent to Washington, 16 were Democratic in 2008 (the exception was Texas, which received $0.94 for every $1 in federal taxes paid). 

Now, a lot of that has to do with the fact that people have higher incomes in many of the blue states, particularly the Northeastern states. Of course, that doesn&#039;t change the fact that &quot;red states&quot; suck in more money than they consume, on average, and many of the states whose populations indirectly subsidize that are &quot;blue&quot; states.

You are right on one thing, though - the District of Columbia is a moocher, collecting $5.55 in taxes for every $1 given out. Of course, seeing as it is the site of the Pentagon, White House, etc - that&#039;s not really surprising. But it isn&#039;t the hinterlands who are on net subsidizing it. 

*Before anyone jumps on my case, I recognize that this overlooks the fact that the blue states and red states aren&#039;t as clear cut as this describes - many of them have a mix of democratic and republican representatives and populations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Verify some numbers and I will apologize: otherwise, I will stand as stated.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://http://www.taxfoundation.org/press/show/22659.html" rel="nofollow">Ask and ye shall receive.</a></p>
<p>This is from 2005, so it's slightly old, but the actual report was released in October 2007:</p>
<p>Top Ten Hinterland States (i.e., non-coast states) in terms of the ratio of federal dollars received versus federal taxes paid, and numbered by their rank as compared to all the states in the Union, with an additional description of whether they went Democratic in the Presidential Election of 2008 or Republican:</p>
<p>1. New Mexico - $2.03 (Democratic)<br />
5. West Virginia - $1.76 (Republican)<br />
6. North Dakota - $1.68 (Republican)<br />
8. South Dakota - $1.53 (Republican)<br />
9. Kentucky - $1.51 (Republican)<br />
11.Montana - $1.47 (Republican)<br />
14. Arkansas - $1.41 (Republican)<br />
15. Oklahoma- $1.36 (Republican)<br />
17. Missouri - $1.32 (Democratic)<br />
19. Tennessee - $1.27 (Republican)</p>
<p>Top Ten Coast States in terms of the above criteria:</p>
<p>2. Mississippi - $2.02 (Republican)<br />
3. Alaska - $1.84 (Republican)<br />
4. Louisiana - $1.78 (Republican)<br />
7. Alabama - $1.66 - (Republican)<br />
10. Virginia - $1.51 - (Democratic)<br />
12. Hawaii - $1.44 (Democratic)<br />
13. Maine - $1.41 - (Democratic)<br />
16. South Carolina - $1.35 (Republican)<br />
18. Maryland - $1.30 (Democratic)<br />
26. Vermont - $1.08 (Democratic)</p>
<p>Moreover, out of the 17 states that received less than $1 in federal outlays for every $1 they sent to Washington, 16 were Democratic in 2008 (the exception was Texas, which received $0.94 for every $1 in federal taxes paid). </p>
<p>Now, a lot of that has to do with the fact that people have higher incomes in many of the blue states, particularly the Northeastern states. Of course, that doesn't change the fact that "red states" suck in more money than they consume, on average, and many of the states whose populations indirectly subsidize that are "blue" states.</p>
<p>You are right on one thing, though - the District of Columbia is a moocher, collecting $5.55 in taxes for every $1 given out. Of course, seeing as it is the site of the Pentagon, White House, etc - that's not really surprising. But it isn't the hinterlands who are on net subsidizing it. </p>
<p>*Before anyone jumps on my case, I recognize that this overlooks the fact that the blue states and red states aren't as clear cut as this describes - many of them have a mix of democratic and republican representatives and populations.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_inauguration_goes_in_the_toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-614221</link>
		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big question: will they be able to handle the call — er, nature’s call — of the up to 2 million people? “We think we’ve reached an appropriate number and can accommodate the crowds,” said Kevin Griffis,

Don&#039;t get overly-excited here, but I think the average US citizen has long considered the sewer system in Washington to have insufficient capabilities to process the crap generated by DC and environs on a normal day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big question: will they be able to handle the call — er, nature&rsquo;s call — of the up to 2 million people? “We think we&rsquo;ve reached an appropriate number and can accommodate the crowds,” said Kevin Griffis,</p>
<p>Don't get overly-excited here, but I think the average US citizen has long considered the sewer system in Washington to have insufficient capabilities to process the crap generated by DC and environs on a normal day.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_inauguration_goes_in_the_toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-606345</link>
		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, the hinterlands, on average, get much more back in federal tax money than they pay out - money that, on average, comes from democratic states.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Verify some numbers and I will apologize: otherwise, I will stand as stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually, the hinterlands, on average, get much more back in federal tax money than they pay out - money that, on average, comes from democratic states.</p></blockquote>
<p>Verify some numbers and I will apologize: otherwise, I will stand as stated.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you believe that government is the entity for wealth and well-being, maybe you should leave Washington and visit, as you say, the hinterlands, which merely provide tax money for your existence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, the hinterlands, on average, get much more back in federal tax money than they pay out - money that, on average, comes from democratic states.

In any case, I&#039;m concerned. Only 5,000 Johns for possibly 2 million people? That could lead to some epic long lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you believe that government is the entity for wealth and well-being, maybe you should leave Washington and visit, as you say, the hinterlands, which merely provide tax money for your existence.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, the hinterlands, on average, get much more back in federal tax money than they pay out - money that, on average, comes from democratic states.</p>
<p>In any case, I'm concerned. Only 5,000 Johns for possibly 2 million people? That could lead to some epic long lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_inauguration_goes_in_the_toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-605783</link>
		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a fake, a flake, an imagination created in the minds of people that think the government can create a better world for you and I, based on &quot;hope and change.&quot;

Too bad, Obama&#039;s &quot;hope and change&quot; is based on an ever-expanding and controlling government.

The only way to &quot;hope and change&quot; is an ever-expanding electorate that believes wealth and prosperity is an endeavor of individual behavior.

If you believe that government is the entity for wealth and well-being, maybe you should leave Washington and visit, as you say, the hinterlands, which merely provide tax money for your existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a fake, a flake, an imagination created in the minds of people that think the government can create a better world for you and I, based on "hope and change."</p>
<p>Too bad, Obama's "hope and change" is based on an ever-expanding and controlling government.</p>
<p>The only way to "hope and change" is an ever-expanding electorate that believes wealth and prosperity is an endeavor of individual behavior.</p>
<p>If you believe that government is the entity for wealth and well-being, maybe you should leave Washington and visit, as you say, the hinterlands, which merely provide tax money for your existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_inauguration_goes_in_the_toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-605377</link>
		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“This is the largest temporary restroom event in the history of the United States,” he said.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No truer words were ever spoken.

This rivals the Gettysburg address for sheer poignancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“This is the largest temporary restroom event in the history of the United States,” he said.
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<p>No truer words were ever spoken.</p>
<p>This rivals the Gettysburg address for sheer poignancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the fact that Obama&#039;s followers are Woodstock, hippie types, this won&#039;t be a problem since they don&#039;t use bathrooms anyways.

They will just piss on the ground with all of their other &quot;back to nature&quot; pals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the fact that Obama's followers are Woodstock, hippie types, this won't be a problem since they don't use bathrooms anyways.</p>
<p>They will just piss on the ground with all of their other "back to nature" pals.</p>
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		<title>By: teqjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>teqjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit late, I think &lt;em&gt;last&lt;/em&gt; year was the &quot;International Year of Sanitation&quot; wasn&#039;t it? 
 
Which I learned by downloading &quot;kennys.world&quot; Australian TV show from UseNet a while back - entertaining and sometimes informative show, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit late, I think <em>last</em> year was the "International Year of Sanitation" wasn't it? </p>
<p>Which I learned by downloading "kennys.world" Australian TV show from UseNet a while back - entertaining and sometimes informative show, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the emergency healthcare concerns, too, guys.
I mean, I&#039;m looking out my window at 5 degrees right now.  DC will be a bit warmer, but not much.

Ya know, they said it wold be a cold day in hell when Obama took the oath of office. And they were right, given that DC is as close to hell as no matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the emergency healthcare concerns, too, guys.<br />
I mean, I'm looking out my window at 5 degrees right now.  DC will be a bit warmer, but not much.</p>
<p>Ya know, they said it wold be a cold day in hell when Obama took the oath of office. And they were right, given that DC is as close to hell as no matter.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s a bit partisan, but quite frankly I have felt that those who were supporting Obama were full of sh*t. So at 400 per john (note the irony of my blog name), I think there may be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it's a bit partisan, but quite frankly I have felt that those who were supporting Obama were full of sh*t. So at 400 per john (note the irony of my blog name), I think there may be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stay classy San Diego errr Washington</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay classy San Diego errr Washington</p>
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