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	<title>Comments on: Obama Taps Joe Biden for VP &#8211; Storybook, Man</title>
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		<title>By: Brian K</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_taps_joe_biden_for_vp/comment-page-1/#comment-507440</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What happened to Hope and Change?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m inclined to agree.  Biden is clearly the conservative political move.  A Sebelius pick would have emphasized change.  The Biden move is sort of hypocritical.  I&#039;m unimpressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What happened to Hope and Change?</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm inclined to agree.  Biden is clearly the conservative political move.  A Sebelius pick would have emphasized change.  The Biden move is sort of hypocritical.  I'm unimpressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There does seem to be some fertile ground there. However, isn&#039;t McCain going to face a similar problem, especially if he picks Romney? 

Incidentally, someone made the point yesterday that it would probably make sense for McCain to pick a female running mate. I think I agree. Apart from looking more &quot;alternative&quot; than the Obama ticket on the surface, it might make it more difficult for Biden to deploy his big guns in a debate. Rightly or wrongly, what might look amusing and sharp if deployed against Romney might well come over as bullying and pompous if deployed against someone like Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There does seem to be some fertile ground there. However, isn't McCain going to face a similar problem, especially if he picks Romney? </p>
<p>Incidentally, someone made the point yesterday that it would probably make sense for McCain to pick a female running mate. I think I agree. Apart from looking more "alternative" than the Obama ticket on the surface, it might make it more difficult for Biden to deploy his big guns in a debate. Rightly or wrongly, what might look amusing and sharp if deployed against Romney might well come over as bullying and pompous if deployed against someone like Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: Gypsy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gypsy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media seem fairly positive on the pick but it looks like a bad one.  Obama and Biden have some big policy differences that McCain will exploit.  Obama didn&#039;t want a yes man but he ended up with a no man.

Not WRIGHT for America has a hilarious spoof post about Obama debating Biden instead of McCain. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.notwrightforamerica.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.notwrightforamerica.com&lt;/a&gt;.  That sums up the problems with the Biden pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media seem fairly positive on the pick but it looks like a bad one.  Obama and Biden have some big policy differences that McCain will exploit.  Obama didn't want a yes man but he ended up with a no man.</p>
<p>Not WRIGHT for America has a hilarious spoof post about Obama debating Biden instead of McCain. <a href="http://www.notwrightforamerica.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.notwrightforamerica.com</a>.  That sums up the problems with the Biden pick.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I would suggest that Biden&#039;s most important attribute by a great deal is that he&#039;s catholic.&quot;

I&#039;d say this is pretty shrewd. That said:

- Aren&#039;t Catholics trending Democrat anyway?
- I&#039;ve already read a couple of comments from the Right along the lines that there&#039;ll be a push to try to get Biden denied communion in order to embarrass him, as happened with Kerry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I would suggest that Biden's most important attribute by a great deal is that he's catholic."</p>
<p>I'd say this is pretty shrewd. That said:</p>
<p>- Aren't Catholics trending Democrat anyway?<br />
- I've already read a couple of comments from the Right along the lines that there'll be a push to try to get Biden denied communion in order to embarrass him, as happened with Kerry.</p>
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		<title>By: One Bit Shy</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Bit Shy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know we&#039;re not supposed to think about anything but the campaign right now, but maybe, just like Bush before him, Obama selected the guy he wanted in the office of vice president.

I mean, it&#039;s not like vice president candidates actually affect elections.  Has there been anyone besides LBJ in the past 100 years?

But for those determined to derive campaign meaning from the selection, then I would suggest that Biden&#039;s most important attribute by a great deal is that he&#039;s catholic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know we're not supposed to think about anything but the campaign right now, but maybe, just like Bush before him, Obama selected the guy he wanted in the office of vice president.</p>
<p>I mean, it's not like vice president candidates actually affect elections.  Has there been anyone besides LBJ in the past 100 years?</p>
<p>But for those determined to derive campaign meaning from the selection, then I would suggest that Biden's most important attribute by a great deal is that he's catholic.</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess what surprises me is the sudden seriousness that Obama supporters have adopted.  For example, your fellow blogger Alex Knapp attempted to show that Barack Obama had better &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hereticalideas.com/2008/08/what-kind-of-experience-makes-a-good-president/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;experience than John McCain&lt;/a&gt;.  But today, comes the &lt;a href=&quot;http://hereticalideas.com/blog/?p=4438#respond&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tacit acknowledgment&lt;/a&gt; that Obama needs real help in the experience department.  Other than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkleft.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TalkLeft&lt;/a&gt; and other admittedly pro-Hillary sites, the left-o-sphere is uncommonly somber in their assessment of Joe Biden.  What happened to Hope and Change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess what surprises me is the sudden seriousness that Obama supporters have adopted.  For example, your fellow blogger Alex Knapp attempted to show that Barack Obama had better <a href="http://www.hereticalideas.com/2008/08/what-kind-of-experience-makes-a-good-president/" rel="nofollow">experience than John McCain</a>.  But today, comes the <a href="http://hereticalideas.com/blog/?p=4438#respond" rel="nofollow">tacit acknowledgment</a> that Obama needs real help in the experience department.  Other than <a href="http://www.talkleft.com/" rel="nofollow">TalkLeft</a> and other admittedly pro-Hillary sites, the left-o-sphere is uncommonly somber in their assessment of Joe Biden.  What happened to Hope and Change?</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/23/10336/2287&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big Tent Democrat&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkleft.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TalkLeft&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Think what you want about Biden, and I think that given Obama&#039;s stubborn and wrongheaded unwillingness to pick Hillary Clinton and put a lock on the election, Biden was the best choice politically that Obama was willing to make (imagine the political disaster if he had picked Sebelius). But the rollout of Biden was disastrously bad, unless the idea is to make sure as few people know as possible. Half of the country will not know until Monday when the Convention starts. Obama should have announced Biden last Monday. An F for the Obama campaign on the mechanics of the rollout.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/23/10336/2287" rel="nofollow">Big Tent Democrat</a> of <a href="http://www.talkleft.com/" rel="nofollow">TalkLeft</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Think what you want about Biden, and I think that given Obama's stubborn and wrongheaded unwillingness to pick Hillary Clinton and put a lock on the election, Biden was the best choice politically that Obama was willing to make (imagine the political disaster if he had picked Sebelius). But the rollout of Biden was disastrously bad, unless the idea is to make sure as few people know as possible. Half of the country will not know until Monday when the Convention starts. Obama should have announced Biden last Monday. An F for the Obama campaign on the mechanics of the rollout.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So James, will Biden make you more likely to support Obama come November?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m a committed voter and not the target audience.  It&#039;s the mushy undecideds that the campaigns are after, as well as trying to energize their bases.

Now, if Biden were on top of the ticket against, say, Mike Huckabee, then I&#039;d likely be up for grabs.  But I&#039;m not sure McCain could make a VP choice bad enough to make me seriously consider voting for Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So James, will Biden make you more likely to support Obama come November?</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm a committed voter and not the target audience.  It's the mushy undecideds that the campaigns are after, as well as trying to energize their bases.</p>
<p>Now, if Biden were on top of the ticket against, say, Mike Huckabee, then I'd likely be up for grabs.  But I'm not sure McCain could make a VP choice bad enough to make me seriously consider voting for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog (TM): A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; Sleep Late, Miss the Big Announcement (It&#8217;s Biden Edition)</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog (TM): A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; Sleep Late, Miss the Big Announcement (It&#8217;s Biden Edition)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you are looking for a round-up of early response, check out James Joyner and for a lot of posts on the subject, cruise over to The Moderate Voice (just click &#8216;n [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you are looking for a round-up of early response, check out James Joyner and for a lot of posts on the subject, cruise over to The Moderate Voice (just click &#8216;n [...]</p>
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		<title>By: THE GUN TOTING LIBERAL™</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE GUN TOTING LIBERAL™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama Names Joe Biden In Veepstakes &#8212; Get Ready For The &#8220;Pithy&#8221; Soundbites...&lt;/strong&gt;

Barry Obama Says &#8220;No More Mister Nice Guy&#8221; By Naming World-Famous Hatchet-Guy And Zinger-Slinger Joseph Biden For Running Mate
First things first &#8212; my apologies to our devoted readers for getting the Obama veep pick wrong not just onc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Obama Names Joe Biden In Veepstakes &#8212; Get Ready For The &#8220;Pithy&#8221; Soundbites...</strong></p>
<p>Barry Obama Says &#8220;No More Mister Nice Guy&#8221; By Naming World-Famous Hatchet-Guy And Zinger-Slinger Joseph Biden For Running Mate<br />
First things first &#8212; my apologies to our devoted readers for getting the Obama veep pick wrong not just onc...</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So James, will Biden make you more likely to support Obama come November?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So James, will Biden make you more likely to support Obama come November?</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one argument against the ticket being flipped -- they ran against each other, and Obama spanked him hard. There&#039;s no argument there. Don&#039;t ever give in to agreeing with Fournier, you&#039;re not nearly as much of a hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's one argument against the ticket being flipped -- they ran against each other, and Obama spanked him hard. There's no argument there. Don't ever give in to agreeing with Fournier, you're not nearly as much of a hack.</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Fournier is a disgrace.</description>
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		<title>By: McCain &#8216;Biden&#8217; Ad</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCain &#8216;Biden&#8217; Ad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] campaign already has a spot out called &#8220;Biden,&#8221; highlighting newly anointed Barack Obama running mate Joe Biden quotes saying Obama lacks the experience to be president and that he&#8217;d be honored to serve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] campaign already has a spot out called &#8220;Biden,&#8221; highlighting newly anointed Barack Obama running mate Joe Biden quotes saying Obama lacks the experience to be president and that he&#8217;d be honored to serve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Obama was running on &quot;change&quot; (although has not stated what he is changing) but then he picks a Washington insider who represents the SQ. I figured he would go with Kaine and bring the message of a new generation of leaders and changing the course of Wash politics. it seems he went the other way.

I wonder how he will deal with the current McCain ad in which it depicts Biden ripping on Obama and praising McCain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Obama was running on "change" (although has not stated what he is changing) but then he picks a Washington insider who represents the SQ. I figured he would go with Kaine and bring the message of a new generation of leaders and changing the course of Wash politics. it seems he went the other way.</p>
<p>I wonder how he will deal with the current McCain ad in which it depicts Biden ripping on Obama and praising McCain</p>
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