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		<title>By: GaryinFla</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_waffles_-_racist_or_funny/comment-page-3/#comment-514742</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryinFla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry everyone, the addresses are obamasouvenirdotcom and mccainsouvenirdotcom</description>
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		<title>By: GaryinFla</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryinFla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad that a friend showed me a campaign souvenir that he received that he said was being produced for both sides without abusing the other. He told me that their websites are mccaindotcom and obamadotcom. I decided to buy one of each because I felt that both   are attractive souvenirs and wanted something political that wasn&#039;t a waste of my hard earned money. They are definitely pretty unique (and cool at that). That is the kind of political merchandise that we should be supporting, no matter which side we are on. Hopefully, these will have some value in the future, unlike the garbage that some are trying to sell .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm glad that a friend showed me a campaign souvenir that he received that he said was being produced for both sides without abusing the other. He told me that their websites are mccaindotcom and obamadotcom. I decided to buy one of each because I felt that both   are attractive souvenirs and wanted something political that wasn't a waste of my hard earned money. They are definitely pretty unique (and cool at that). That is the kind of political merchandise that we should be supporting, no matter which side we are on. Hopefully, these will have some value in the future, unlike the garbage that some are trying to sell .</p>
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		<title>By: Obama: Can Satire Become A Coverup For Racism &#38; Bigotry? &#171; Seriously McMillan&#8217;s &#8220;She So Ghetto&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama: Can Satire Become A Coverup For Racism &#38; Bigotry? &#171; Seriously McMillan&#8217;s &#8220;She So Ghetto&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grendelkhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>grendelkhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Father Branigan&lt;/b&gt;: Why don&#039;t they call Muslims &quot;Idiots&quot; because they believe that God created the earth? This would never happen, because Christians are easy targets that everyone can belittle without any retribution.&lt;/blockquote&gt; No, that&#039;s not why. It&#039;s because there&#039;s something grotesque about mocking those with less power. Muslims are a minority here, and a particularly distrusted one. What kind of heartless jerkass would make them a target for ridicule, if not a bigot?

As &lt;a href=&quot;http://vagabondscholar.blogspot.com/2006/08/aryan-minstrel-show.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;someone much more eloquent than me&lt;/a&gt; said: &lt;blockquote&gt;Comedy possesses a very strong anti-establishment tradition of mocking those perceived to be in power. There&#039;s something unseemly to most people, for instance, in mocking the poor simply because they&#039;re poor. In comedy, women are more likely to triumph over men, children over adults, employees over bosses, mice over cats, and so on. There&#039;s a long tradition in many cultures for some sort of &quot;lord of misrule&quot; that allows for the release of social tensions. In contrast, the minstrel performer reverses this comedic tradition and mocks those &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; in power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bithead&lt;/b&gt;: Why, sure. If the black man in question is a conservative. Ask Clarence Thomas. Shelby Steele. Or if you&#039;d like to include women, Condi Rice.

Recently, we&#039;ve been witness to he foaming left telling us that Sarah Palin is not a real woman. This despite her giving birth to five kids. What&#039;s really going on there, of course is as I said recently at my own place... she&#039;s gotten to where she is now on her own, showing clearly that the femist adherence to leftis/marxist ideology is so much stable carpeting. She therefore cannot be considered &#039;real&#039;.&lt;/blockquote&gt; While it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; telling that you think giving birth to five kids is required for &quot;real&quot; womanhood, I&#039;m a bit fuzzy on who exactly was complaining that Sarah Palin isn&#039;t a &quot;real woman&quot;. She backs policies which are harmful to women, which is a good argument for women not to vote for her, but that&#039;s far more to do with her actual politics than her gender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><b>Father Branigan</b>: Why don't they call Muslims "Idiots" because they believe that God created the earth? This would never happen, because Christians are easy targets that everyone can belittle without any retribution.</p></blockquote>
<p> No, that's not why. It's because there's something grotesque about mocking those with less power. Muslims are a minority here, and a particularly distrusted one. What kind of heartless jerkass would make them a target for ridicule, if not a bigot?</p>
<p>As <a href="http://vagabondscholar.blogspot.com/2006/08/aryan-minstrel-show.html" rel="nofollow">someone much more eloquent than me</a> said:<br />
<blockquote>Comedy possesses a very strong anti-establishment tradition of mocking those perceived to be in power. There's something unseemly to most people, for instance, in mocking the poor simply because they're poor. In comedy, women are more likely to triumph over men, children over adults, employees over bosses, mice over cats, and so on. There's a long tradition in many cultures for some sort of "lord of misrule" that allows for the release of social tensions. In contrast, the minstrel performer reverses this comedic tradition and mocks those <i>not</i> in power.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><b>Bithead</b>: Why, sure. If the black man in question is a conservative. Ask Clarence Thomas. Shelby Steele. Or if you'd like to include women, Condi Rice.</p>
<p>Recently, we've been witness to he foaming left telling us that Sarah Palin is not a real woman. This despite her giving birth to five kids. What's really going on there, of course is as I said recently at my own place... she's gotten to where she is now on her own, showing clearly that the femist adherence to leftis/marxist ideology is so much stable carpeting. She therefore cannot be considered 'real'.</p></blockquote>
<p> While it <i>is</i> telling that you think giving birth to five kids is required for "real" womanhood, I'm a bit fuzzy on who exactly was complaining that Sarah Palin isn't a "real woman". She backs policies which are harmful to women, which is a good argument for women not to vote for her, but that's far more to do with her actual politics than her gender.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For one thing, it doesn&#039;t strike me as reasonable to assume that those who beleive the earth and he heavens were created by God, are a mere subset of Christianity. Rather, the reverse. Yet you spend a goodly chucnk of this thred trying t seperate the two in order to bolster your position.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It seems I just wasn&#039;t making my position sufficiently clear.  

People who believe that God created everything make up the bulk of Christianity (I hesitate to say all, because there may be some number of christians who don&#039;t).  People that believe God did it all in 6x24 hours, somewhere around 6000 years ago, or without using the physical narrative we have evidence of, make up a subset of Christianity.  

This subset are regularly called idiots because of that belief, but Christians who don&#039;t fall into this category are less often called idiots for their beliefs.

&lt;blockquote&gt;This, of course, aside from the idea that what we have in physical evidence doesn&#039;t in the least begin to fully explain our existance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It begins to explain it just fine, but I will agree that it does not fully explain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For one thing, it doesn't strike me as reasonable to assume that those who beleive the earth and he heavens were created by God, are a mere subset of Christianity. Rather, the reverse. Yet you spend a goodly chucnk of this thred trying t seperate the two in order to bolster your position.</p></blockquote>
<p>It seems I just wasn't making my position sufficiently clear.  </p>
<p>People who believe that God created everything make up the bulk of Christianity (I hesitate to say all, because there may be some number of christians who don't).  People that believe God did it all in 6x24 hours, somewhere around 6000 years ago, or without using the physical narrative we have evidence of, make up a subset of Christianity.  </p>
<p>This subset are regularly called idiots because of that belief, but Christians who don't fall into this category are less often called idiots for their beliefs.</p>
<blockquote><p>This, of course, aside from the idea that what we have in physical evidence doesn't in the least begin to fully explain our existance.</p></blockquote>
<p>It begins to explain it just fine, but I will agree that it does not fully explain it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For one thing, it doesn&#039;t strike me as reasonable to assume that those who beleive the earth and he heavens were created by God, are a mere subset of Christianity. Rather, the reverse. Yet you spend a goodly chucnk of this thred trying t seperate the two in order to bolster your position.

This, of course, aside from the idea that what we have in physical evidence doesn&#039;t in the least begin to fully explain our existance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For one thing, it doesn't strike me as reasonable to assume that those who beleive the earth and he heavens were created by God, are a mere subset of Christianity. Rather, the reverse. Yet you spend a goodly chucnk of this thred trying t seperate the two in order to bolster your position.</p>
<p>This, of course, aside from the idea that what we have in physical evidence doesn't in the least begin to fully explain our existance.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Whatever happened to the reasoned deabater, Michael?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Where am I being unreasonable, Bithead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Whatever happened to the reasoned deabater, Michael?</p></blockquote>
<p>Where am I being unreasonable, Bithead?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever happened to the reasoned deabater, Michael? Does it have anything to do with that bit of foam under your lip?</description>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not for you to decide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

nope for God to decide just going on what he says about the subject.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Again, not for you to decide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

nope just going with what God says on the subject.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have yet to meet a creationist who did not reject basic facts of science, and I suspect I never will.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Creationist came up with the basic facts of science you knuckle head, evolutionist have perverted it with flights of Fantasy, once again you have been taught a fools history and believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not for you to decide.</p></blockquote>
<p>nope for God to decide just going on what he says about the subject.</p>
<blockquote><p>Again, not for you to decide.</p></blockquote>
<p>nope just going with what God says on the subject.</p>
<blockquote><p>I have yet to meet a creationist who did not reject basic facts of science, and I suspect I never will.</p></blockquote>
<p>Creationist came up with the basic facts of science you knuckle head, evolutionist have perverted it with flights of Fantasy, once again you have been taught a fools history and believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;EERRRnt wrong answer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not for you to decide.

&lt;blockquote&gt;don&#039;t read it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Hey, we can agree to something.  That&#039;s nice.

&lt;blockquote&gt;never said they did their are other good teachers out there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not all Christians believe in what AIG is trying to tell them to believe.  If you have &quot;other teachers&quot; who teach something different, then I&#039;m interested.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Then their not Christians.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Again, not for you to decide.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Ya their called creationists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I have yet to meet a creationist who did not reject basic facts of science, and I suspect I never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>EERRRnt wrong answer.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not for you to decide.</p>
<blockquote><p>don't read it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, we can agree to something.  That's nice.</p>
<blockquote><p>never said they did their are other good teachers out there.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not all Christians believe in what AIG is trying to tell them to believe.  If you have "other teachers" who teach something different, then I'm interested.</p>
<blockquote><p>Then their not Christians.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, not for you to decide.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ya their called creationists.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have yet to meet a creationist who did not reject basic facts of science, and I suspect I never will.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golly,Golly, This one struck a nerve![lol]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly,Golly, This one struck a nerve![lol]</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why, Christians, of course.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

EERRRnt wrong answer.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Again, why would I read a book who&#039;s summary shows has nothing whatsoever to do with the conversation at hand?&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Blah I give up don&#039;t read it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, and not all Christians agree with the AIG website.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

never said they did their are other good teachers out there.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not all Christians believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then their not Christians.

&lt;blockquote&gt;(I would hazard to say &quot;most&quot;, but I don&#039;t have statistics) have no problem reconciling their faith with the facts of science.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ya their called creationists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why, Christians, of course.</p></blockquote>
<p>EERRRnt wrong answer.</p>
<blockquote><p>Again, why would I read a book who's summary shows has nothing whatsoever to do with the conversation at hand?</p></blockquote>
<p>Blah I give up don't read it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, and not all Christians agree with the AIG website.</p></blockquote>
<p>never said they did their are other good teachers out there.</p>
<blockquote><p>Not all Christians believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then their not Christians.</p>
<blockquote><p>(I would hazard to say "most", but I don't have statistics) have no problem reconciling their faith with the facts of science.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ya their called creationists.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Xref the word &quot;Witness&quot;, Anjin&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The entire cosmos give witness to the greatness of God, I hardly think a cheap hunk of tin adds anything...

Xref the word &quot;vainglory&quot; bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Xref the word "Witness", Anjin</p></blockquote>
<p>The entire cosmos give witness to the greatness of God, I hardly think a cheap hunk of tin adds anything...</p>
<p>Xref the word "vainglory" bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who keeps telling you this stuff?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Why, Christians, of course.

&lt;blockquote&gt;well you could try reading it, and putting 2+2 together, but here is some more help for you M.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Again, why would I read a book who&#039;s summary shows has nothing whatsoever to do with the conversation at hand?

Oh, and not all Christians agree with the AIG website.  Not all Christians believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis.  Many Christians (I would hazard to say &quot;most&quot;, but I don&#039;t have statistics) have no problem reconciling their faith with the facts of science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who keeps telling you this stuff?</p></blockquote>
<p>Why, Christians, of course.</p>
<blockquote><p>well you could try reading it, and putting 2+2 together, but here is some more help for you M.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, why would I read a book who's summary shows has nothing whatsoever to do with the conversation at hand?</p>
<p>Oh, and not all Christians agree with the AIG website.  Not all Christians believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis.  Many Christians (I would hazard to say "most", but I don't have statistics) have no problem reconciling their faith with the facts of science.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Even those people can&#039;t agree on how exactly he said he did it, or even what he meant by what he said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who keeps telling you this stuff?

&lt;blockquote&gt;How will a criticism of the impacts of evolution theory on social behavior in any way contribute to the arguments about what God said and meant in Genesis?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

well you could try reading it, and putting 2+2 together, but here is some more help for you M.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Even those people can't agree on how exactly he said he did it, or even what he meant by what he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who keeps telling you this stuff?</p>
<blockquote><p>How will a criticism of the impacts of evolution theory on social behavior in any way contribute to the arguments about what God said and meant in Genesis?</p></blockquote>
<p>well you could try reading it, and putting 2+2 together, but here is some more help for you M.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.answersingenesis.org/</a></p>
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