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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_aipac_gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-398227</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experience is a funny thing. GHW Bush was, on paper, better prepared to be president than any of his predecessors. In spite of that, he was a mediocre one term president who did not seem to really understand the job on many levels.

Bill Clinton, with relatively little experience when he took the job, turned out to be an excellent president, mostly by virtue of brainpower and political skills.

The resume don&#039;t mean a heck of a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experience is a funny thing. GHW Bush was, on paper, better prepared to be president than any of his predecessors. In spite of that, he was a mediocre one term president who did not seem to really understand the job on many levels.</p>
<p>Bill Clinton, with relatively little experience when he took the job, turned out to be an excellent president, mostly by virtue of brainpower and political skills.</p>
<p>The resume don't mean a heck of a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Fence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, of course I was aware of that at the time and haven&#039;t forgotten.  Reagan was a good President, but not because of his largely unremarkable experience as Governor.  In 1980 Jimmy Carter had much more relevant experience than Reagan.  Lots of duds have been governors for awhile, that doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;d be good Presidents.  There&#039;s more to picking the President than the number of lines on a resume.

I&#039;m not saying there&#039;s no point in the general direction you are swinging, but when you talk so disrespectfully about Obama (who needs not my attempt at answering your question to establish his credentials as a very impressive dude), no one whose vote is up for grabs this year will listen for 2 seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, of course I was aware of that at the time and haven't forgotten.  Reagan was a good President, but not because of his largely unremarkable experience as Governor.  In 1980 Jimmy Carter had much more relevant experience than Reagan.  Lots of duds have been governors for awhile, that doesn't mean they'd be good Presidents.  There's more to picking the President than the number of lines on a resume.</p>
<p>I'm not saying there's no point in the general direction you are swinging, but when you talk so disrespectfully about Obama (who needs not my attempt at answering your question to establish his credentials as a very impressive dude), no one whose vote is up for grabs this year will listen for 2 seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_aipac_gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-397911</link>
		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fence.  Are you aware Reagan had 8 years as governor of the State of California.  What is it in Obamas resume that measures up?  Community what?  There are none so blind as those who will not see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fence.  Are you aware Reagan had 8 years as governor of the State of California.  What is it in Obamas resume that measures up?  Community what?  There are none so blind as those who will not see.</p>
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		<title>By: Fence</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_aipac_gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-397791</link>
		<dc:creator>Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, it is so disappointing to learn that Obama is unqualified because his waitress at a Waffle House in 1975 filed her taxes late.  &#039;Cause I already eliminated voting for McCain because I already got a robocall telling me he once spent 5 years hanging out with dark-skinned Commies who were at war with America.

I supported the guy in 1980 who had less experience.  I think that turned out pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, it is so disappointing to learn that Obama is unqualified because his waitress at a Waffle House in 1975 filed her taxes late.  'Cause I already eliminated voting for McCain because I already got a robocall telling me he once spent 5 years hanging out with dark-skinned Commies who were at war with America.</p>
<p>I supported the guy in 1980 who had less experience.  I think that turned out pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t think either Milbank or Lang are &quot;the right.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Well, duh.  I think of their remarks as the bullets folks like you use - as evidenced by this post.

As I said, pretty weak ammo, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I don't think either Milbank or Lang are "the right."</em></p>
<p>Well, duh.  I think of their remarks as the bullets folks like you use - as evidenced by this post.</p>
<p>As I said, pretty weak ammo, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All right Pilot, just what is it in Obama&#039;s resume that makes you think he is capable of being President of the United States?  Was it his valuable time as the editor of a school newspaper?  How about his time as a community organizer?  No, his 6 voteless years as a Illinois state senator or the 1/3 of a term he has served in the U.S. Senate.  The suit looks pretty empty to me.  He began his political career in the house of Will Ayers and un repentant domestic terrorist, both his spiritual mentors are race baiting haters, all of his associates are marxist.  None of his friends are people of worth and you want this man to run America?  WTF is wrong with you Anjin?  You have no idea who Obama is.  Not even a clue.  When his close associates, like Tony Rezko, are found out to be criminals or worse, Obama claims they are not the person he knew.  If his is running on judgment, maybe he should have shown a little.  I wonder what judgement he was using when he had that crack pipe in his mouth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right Pilot, just what is it in Obama's resume that makes you think he is capable of being President of the United States?  Was it his valuable time as the editor of a school newspaper?  How about his time as a community organizer?  No, his 6 voteless years as a Illinois state senator or the 1/3 of a term he has served in the U.S. Senate.  The suit looks pretty empty to me.  He began his political career in the house of Will Ayers and un repentant domestic terrorist, both his spiritual mentors are race baiting haters, all of his associates are marxist.  None of his friends are people of worth and you want this man to run America?  WTF is wrong with you Anjin?  You have no idea who Obama is.  Not even a clue.  When his close associates, like Tony Rezko, are found out to be criminals or worse, Obama claims they are not the person he knew.  If his is running on judgment, maybe he should have shown a little.  I wonder what judgement he was using when he had that crack pipe in his mouth?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If this is a measure of the ammo on the right, then it&#039;s going to be a lot more fun than I thought.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think either Milbank or Lang are &quot;the right.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If this is a measure of the ammo on the right, then it's going to be a lot more fun than I thought.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don't think either Milbank or Lang are "the right."</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_aipac_gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-397675</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is a measure of the ammo on  the right, then it&#039;s going to be a lot more fun than I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is a measure of the ammo on  the right, then it's going to be a lot more fun than I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Obama has consistently taken a hawkish, pro-Likud pose, even to the point that he said he wouldn&#039;t sit down and meet with Hamas.  These are disappointing stances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Obama has consistently taken a hawkish, pro-Likud pose, even to the point that he said he wouldn't sit down and meet with Hamas.  These are disappointing stances.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_aipac_gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-397472</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the action of an empty suit, so it fits Obama perfectly&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The stupidity of the &quot;empty suit&quot; line is self-evident. Whatever you may think of Obama, there is no debate that he just took the vaunted Clinton political machine apart in a contest that began with Hillary holding every advantage. 

Yes, the same Clinton machine that beat the GOP like a drum with great frequency not that long ago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the action of an empty suit, so it fits Obama perfectly</p></blockquote>
<p>The stupidity of the "empty suit" line is self-evident. Whatever you may think of Obama, there is no debate that he just took the vaunted Clinton political machine apart in a contest that began with Hillary holding every advantage. </p>
<p>Yes, the same Clinton machine that beat the GOP like a drum with great frequency not that long ago...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_aipac_gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-397465</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think any Democrats, from Obama down, are saying that in the case of Iran we don&#039;t need to keep our eyes open and our powder dry.

What they are saying is that we need to have options other that &quot;we won&#039;t talk to you&quot; and &quot;we will bomb the crap out of you&quot;. McCain may think that singing little diddies about blowing up other human beings is amusing, but I for one do not.

The tragic thing is that the government of Iran enjoys little support, and a lot of Iranians still like and admire the US in spite of the fact that we pretty much screwed them over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think any Democrats, from Obama down, are saying that in the case of Iran we don't need to keep our eyes open and our powder dry.</p>
<p>What they are saying is that we need to have options other that "we won't talk to you" and "we will bomb the crap out of you". McCain may think that singing little diddies about blowing up other human beings is amusing, but I for one do not.</p>
<p>The tragic thing is that the government of Iran enjoys little support, and a lot of Iranians still like and admire the US in spite of the fact that we pretty much screwed them over.</p>
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		<title>By: Spysmasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spysmasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Out of character for him.&quot;

WHY?

It&#039;s something a super-slickster con man would do, the action of an empty suit, so it fits Obama perfectly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Out of character for him."</p>
<p>WHY?</p>
<p>It's something a super-slickster con man would do, the action of an empty suit, so it fits Obama perfectly!</p>
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		<title>By: Fence</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_aipac_gambit/comment-page-1/#comment-397396</link>
		<dc:creator>Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But haven&#039;t the Iranians repeatedly violated their obligations under the NNPT?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As has the US.  Read Article VI, which we signed 40 years ago next month:  &quot;Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.&quot;

So say you are Iran.  The biggest nuclear power in the world just invaded your next door neighbor without provocation, their President calls you part of the &quot;axis of evil&quot; and the guy with 50-50 chance of being the next President sings &quot;bomb bomb Iran.&quot;  Obviously, none of us would run Iran they way they do, but if I were them, I could see wanting a nuke in my back pocket.  

A big and obviously growing percentage of Iranians were born after the Revolution and don&#039;t like their government, they like NBA basketball and video games.  When they eventually take charge of the country Iran could turn into an important US ally.  But we risk messing that up with the elitist antagonism we throw at them, it turns their Millenials away from US and toward their government.   And yes, there are risks as we wait, but what real choice do we have?  If we can&#039;t control Iraq we certainly can&#039;t control Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But haven't the Iranians repeatedly violated their obligations under the NNPT?</p></blockquote>
<p>As has the US.  Read Article VI, which we signed 40 years ago next month:  "Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control."</p>
<p>So say you are Iran.  The biggest nuclear power in the world just invaded your next door neighbor without provocation, their President calls you part of the "axis of evil" and the guy with 50-50 chance of being the next President sings "bomb bomb Iran."  Obviously, none of us would run Iran they way they do, but if I were them, I could see wanting a nuke in my back pocket.  </p>
<p>A big and obviously growing percentage of Iranians were born after the Revolution and don't like their government, they like NBA basketball and video games.  When they eventually take charge of the country Iran could turn into an important US ally.  But we risk messing that up with the elitist antagonism we throw at them, it turns their Millenials away from US and toward their government.   And yes, there are risks as we wait, but what real choice do we have?  If we can't control Iraq we certainly can't control Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenceB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Obama supporter, this &quot;Jerusalem capital&quot; business is one of the few times I&#039;ve been disappointed in him - the other that comes prominently to mind was his pandering to the protectionist anti-trade crowd.

Oh well...  I guess there are no perfect candidates, and he&#039;s still the best one out there for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Obama supporter, this "Jerusalem capital" business is one of the few times I've been disappointed in him - the other that comes prominently to mind was his pandering to the protectionist anti-trade crowd.</p>
<p>Oh well...  I guess there are no perfect candidates, and he's still the best one out there for me.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Obama a friend of Israel? Perhaps he will be a better friend than Bush, Clinton, McCain or John Hagee. Will Obama continue to allow Israel to control foreign policy? McClellan said that Bush purposely mis-lead the American people concerning the Iraq war. We later found out that Bush was only a part of the conspiracy. Jessica Yellen said that MSM (Main Stream Media) played a major roll in the propaganda campaign leading up the the Iraq war. What about main stream religion, evangelists and  ministers...they were  major players in this conspiracy.. Phillip Zelikow, Bush adviser and member of the 911 commission said &quot;Iraq war was launched to protect Israel.&quot; .America has lost over 4000 of our finest to protect Israel.  Obama should be pro-Iraq war. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Obama a friend of Israel? Perhaps he will be a better friend than Bush, Clinton, McCain or John Hagee. Will Obama continue to allow Israel to control foreign policy? McClellan said that Bush purposely mis-lead the American people concerning the Iraq war. We later found out that Bush was only a part of the conspiracy. Jessica Yellen said that MSM (Main Stream Media) played a major roll in the propaganda campaign leading up the the Iraq war. What about main stream religion, evangelists and  ministers...they were  major players in this conspiracy.. Phillip Zelikow, Bush adviser and member of the 911 commission said "Iraq war was launched to protect Israel." .America has lost over 4000 of our finest to protect Israel.  Obama should be pro-Iraq war.</p>
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