Comments on: Obama’s Most Broken Promise http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/ Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:40:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Rob http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1037167 Rob Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:05:11 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1037167 Sure, just make it so hard to look for the promised bills, and people will stop looking. Oh, look, a shiny obect.... Sure, just make it so hard to look for the promised bills, and people will stop looking.

Oh, look, a shiny obect....

]]> By: Michael http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1037099 Michael Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:00:10 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1037099 <blockquote>No. Some he has signed in less than the 5 days. And going to the Library of Congresses website isn't the simplest thing to navigate. Sure it gets the job done, but it could be a bit easier to find exactly what one is looking for.</blockquote>But thats a failure of implementation, not a failure of initiative. It's hard to accuse someone of breaking a promise because the implementation differs in the details.

No. Some he has signed in less than the 5 days. And going to the Library of Congresses website isn't the simplest thing to navigate. Sure it gets the job done, but it could be a bit easier to find exactly what one is looking for.

But thats a failure of implementation, not a failure of initiative. It's hard to accuse someone of breaking a promise because the implementation differs in the details.

]]> By: Steve Verdon http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1037059 Steve Verdon Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:54:45 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1037059 <blockquote>But they are available online for review for some period of time before the President signs them, yes?</blockquote> No. Some he has signed in less than the 5 days. And going to the Library of Congresses website isn't the simplest thing to navigate. Sure it gets the job done, but it could be a bit easier to find exactly what one is looking for.

But they are available online for review for some period of time before the President signs them, yes?

No. Some he has signed in less than the 5 days. And going to the Library of Congresses website isn't the simplest thing to navigate. Sure it gets the job done, but it could be a bit easier to find exactly what one is looking for.

]]> By: FranklinTest http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036973 FranklinTest Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:42:28 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036973 It's not a broken promise - they've just all been emergency bills! /just kidding It's not a broken promise - they've just all been emergency bills!

/just kidding

]]> By: Michael http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036941 Michael Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:17:41 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036941 <blockquote>He made the promise, and he is not living up to it.</blockquote>I'm all about holding politicians to their promises, but it strikes me that you're perhaps making a mountain out of a mole hill. Basically your concern is that he isn't posting them on the same website he said he would, and that they haven't been available on said website for the amount of time he said they would. But they are available online for review for some period of time before the President signs them, yes? I'd say that a different implementation doesn't necessarily constitute a broken promise.

He made the promise, and he is not living up to it.

I'm all about holding politicians to their promises, but it strikes me that you're perhaps making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Basically your concern is that he isn't posting them on the same website he said he would, and that they haven't been available on said website for the amount of time he said they would. But they are available online for review for some period of time before the President signs them, yes? I'd say that a different implementation doesn't necessarily constitute a broken promise.

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036488 Jeffrey W. Baker Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:43:34 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036488 Steve: thanks for the link. The reason I asked is because anyone with a passing familiarity of our system of government would not expect to visit the web site of the executive branch in order to read the text of a bill. When I want to read a bill I go to the web site of the Library of Congress. I guess in this day and age you have to beat the citizenry over the head with a big flashy site like whitehouse.gov? Steve: thanks for the link. The reason I asked is because anyone with a passing familiarity of our system of government would not expect to visit the web site of the executive branch in order to read the text of a bill. When I want to read a bill I go to the web site of the Library of Congress. I guess in this day and age you have to beat the citizenry over the head with a big flashy site like whitehouse.gov?

]]> By: An Interested Party http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036479 An Interested Party Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:38:12 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036479 Wow, a politician who isn't living up to his promises...that's simply unheard of... Wow, a politician who isn't living up to his promises...that's simply unheard of...

]]> By: Steve Verdon http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036428 Steve Verdon Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:03:38 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036428 Jeffery, It is in <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/TakingBackOurGovernmentBackFinalFactSheet.pdf" rel="nofollow">this document</a> from Barack Obama's campaign website. He made the promise, and he is not living up to it. Jeffery,

It is in this document from Barack Obama's campaign website. He made the promise, and he is not living up to it.

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036349 Jeffrey W. Baker Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:10:20 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036349 Well I watched the video you linked, and what he says is that all bills will be available online for five days before he signs them. I don't hear anything that would rule out the five days being spent at thomas.loc.gov, which is after all quite public. Well I watched the video you linked, and what he says is that all bills will be available online for five days before he signs them. I don't hear anything that would rule out the five days being spent at thomas.loc.gov, which is after all quite public.

]]> By: Steve Verdon http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036321 Steve Verdon Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:56:13 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036321 <blockquote>The premise seems wanting. Are the bills on Thomas for five days? Why do they specifically need to be on whitehouse.gov?</blockquote> That was the promise.

The premise seems wanting. Are the bills on Thomas for five days? Why do they specifically need to be on whitehouse.gov?

That was the promise.

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036317 Jeffrey W. Baker Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:53:42 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036317 The premise seems wanting. Are the bills on Thomas for five days? Why do they specifically need to be on whitehouse.gov? The premise seems wanting. Are the bills on Thomas for five days? Why do they specifically need to be on whitehouse.gov?

]]> By: Steve Verdon http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036307 Steve Verdon Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:46:30 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036307 I don't know. These are bills presented to the President for his signature. Probably yes, but there are most likely several versions. The House version, Senate version, and maybe even several versions that were being haggled over before going to the President. Having a dedicated spot on the White House website for whatever is the final bill the President is about to sign would be handy. Besides, President Obama made a promise, he should live up to it. Especially one that is so easily done. Wait 5 days, and have it uploaded to the White House website. Not a huge deal. I don't know. These are bills presented to the President for his signature. Probably yes, but there are most likely several versions. The House version, Senate version, and maybe even several versions that were being haggled over before going to the President. Having a dedicated spot on the White House website for whatever is the final bill the President is about to sign would be handy.

Besides, President Obama made a promise, he should live up to it. Especially one that is so easily done. Wait 5 days, and have it uploaded to the White House website. Not a huge deal.

]]> By: Raoul http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obamas_most_broken_promise/comment-page-1/#comment-1036279 Raoul Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:34:25 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?p=35457#comment-1036279 Can't anybody just post the bills? I mean it is a public record, no? Can't anybody just post the bills? I mean it is a public record, no?

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