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		<title>By: Why Barack Went to Al Arabiya First / Jossip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Barack Went to Al Arabiya First / Jossip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ha ha, American media! See what happens when you irritate Barack? Dude straight up ignores your hundreds of requests for his first TV interview as president and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have added, &quot;the Press are like sharks with lawyers&quot;, professional courtesy and all that... until there is blood in the water. Then watch the feeding frenzy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have added, "the Press are like sharks with lawyers", professional courtesy and all that... until there is blood in the water. Then watch the feeding frenzy.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew, with all due respect,
&lt;blockquote&gt;There is another person who finally woke up, and was complaining about treatment, even after more than a decade of softball treatment.....a certain Hillary Rodham Clinton.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How &quot;softball&quot; was the treatment the Clintons got when they were in the WH (and I mean during the healthcare debates and travel-gate, not monica-gate)? 
&lt;blockquote&gt;It seams to me that even a casual review of reporting on various difficult, grey area issues over the years would lead one to conclude that by... &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I said before,
&lt;blockquote&gt;Bit, if you want to say the MSM has, in general, a liberal bias, fine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I will not argue that statement one way or the other, at least partly because bias, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
But when somebody says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;So as to get the weakest person into that positon possible. At which point, the press alternately ignored him, or savaged him, depending on mood and Obama&#039;s need.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
He is saying, &lt;em&gt;&quot;the MSM all got together, plotted a strategy for bringing down the GOP, and putting Obama in a position of unassailable power, then implemented this most nefarious plot, and even now, after they have succeeded, they continue to hold to their blood oath of silence.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;
Remember Hillary&#039;s &quot;vast right-wing conspiracy&quot;? It didn&#039;t smell any better either.
As for...
&lt;blockquote&gt;those doubters. When things were bleak, wasn&#039;t the Iraq War plastered daily and nightly all over the papers, magazines and TV&#039;s?? Now that things are better? Um, is there still a war in Iraq? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes there is still a war. I continue to read about it every day(NYT), the corruption, the continuing suicide bombings, the kidnappings, the inevitable political gridlock... What you really want the MSM to report is, &quot;Today, no American soldiers or marines died.&quot; But that is not &quot;news&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew, with all due respect,</p>
<blockquote><p>There is another person who finally woke up, and was complaining about treatment, even after more than a decade of softball treatment.....a certain Hillary Rodham Clinton.</p></blockquote>
<p>How "softball" was the treatment the Clintons got when they were in the WH (and I mean during the healthcare debates and travel-gate, not monica-gate)? </p>
<blockquote><p>It seams to me that even a casual review of reporting on various difficult, grey area issues over the years would lead one to conclude that by... </p></blockquote>
<p>As I said before,</p>
<blockquote><p>Bit, if you want to say the MSM has, in general, a liberal bias, fine.</p></blockquote>
<p>I will not argue that statement one way or the other, at least partly because bias, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.<br />
But when somebody says:</p>
<blockquote><p>So as to get the weakest person into that positon possible. At which point, the press alternately ignored him, or savaged him, depending on mood and Obama's need.</p></blockquote>
<p>He is saying, <em>"the MSM all got together, plotted a strategy for bringing down the GOP, and putting Obama in a position of unassailable power, then implemented this most nefarious plot, and even now, after they have succeeded, they continue to hold to their blood oath of silence." </em><br />
Remember Hillary's "vast right-wing conspiracy"? It didn't smell any better either.<br />
As for...</p>
<blockquote><p>those doubters. When things were bleak, wasn't the Iraq War plastered daily and nightly all over the papers, magazines and TV's?? Now that things are better? Um, is there still a war in Iraq? </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes there is still a war. I continue to read about it every day(NYT), the corruption, the continuing suicide bombings, the kidnappings, the inevitable political gridlock... What you really want the MSM to report is, "Today, no American soldiers or marines died." But that is not "news".</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You know the drill, James... when there&#039;s a Democrat in the WH, there are seldom hard questions asked so long as the egos of the press aren&#039;t trampled. They&#039;ll give him all the breathing room he wants so long as that condition is met. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see the nuturing is in full swing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You know the drill, James... when there's a Democrat in the WH, there are seldom hard questions asked so long as the egos of the press aren't trampled. They'll give him all the breathing room he wants so long as that condition is met. </p></blockquote>
<p>I see the nuturing is in full swing.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bit, if you want to say the MSM has, in general, a liberal bias, fine. But this stretches the boundaries of credulity.&quot;

I&#039;m not so sure, tom p.  There is another person who finally woke up, and was complaining about treatment, even after more than a decade of softball treatment.....a certain Hillary Rodham Clinton.

It seams to me that even a casual review of reporting on various difficult, grey area issues over the years would lead one to conclude that by 1) how much attention the media pay, thereby &quot;validating&quot; and keeping an issue in the public eye, 2) the all important wording they choose to use in describing the issue and 3) their use of third party &quot;experts&quot; or opinion leaders to portray a degree of certainty on a matter all combine to intentionally fade public perceptions one way or another.    

Odograph&#039;s wise dinner companions excepted, I guess.


For those doubters.  When things were bleak, wasn&#039;t the Iraq War plastered daily and nightly all over the papers, magazines and TV&#039;s??  Now that things are better?  Um, is there still a war in Iraq?  I haven&#039;t seen much reporting......

I guess our frinds in the MSM decided to take it off the radar screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Bit, if you want to say the MSM has, in general, a liberal bias, fine. But this stretches the boundaries of credulity."</p>
<p>I'm not so sure, tom p.  There is another person who finally woke up, and was complaining about treatment, even after more than a decade of softball treatment.....a certain Hillary Rodham Clinton.</p>
<p>It seams to me that even a casual review of reporting on various difficult, grey area issues over the years would lead one to conclude that by 1) how much attention the media pay, thereby "validating" and keeping an issue in the public eye, 2) the all important wording they choose to use in describing the issue and 3) their use of third party "experts" or opinion leaders to portray a degree of certainty on a matter all combine to intentionally fade public perceptions one way or another.    </p>
<p>Odograph's wise dinner companions excepted, I guess.</p>
<p>For those doubters.  When things were bleak, wasn't the Iraq War plastered daily and nightly all over the papers, magazines and TV's??  Now that things are better?  Um, is there still a war in Iraq?  I haven't seen much reporting......</p>
<p>I guess our frinds in the MSM decided to take it off the radar screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That&#039;s why Palin... who unlike McCain, is a real conservative... was outpolling and out drawing MacCain.&quot;

Umm, &lt;a href=&quot;//www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/02/poll.one.party/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no.&lt;/a&gt;  But thanks for playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"That's why Palin... who unlike McCain, is a real conservative... was outpolling and out drawing MacCain."</p>
<p>Umm, <a href="//www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/02/poll.one.party/index.html" rel="nofollow">no.</a>  But thanks for playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since McCain was the strongest, not the weakest, Republican for the general election in the field (not just my opinion, but also our host&#039;s), this is more a testament to your political cluelessness than a serious argument.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right. That&#039;s why Palin... who unlike McCain, is a real conservative... was outpolling and out drawing MacCain.

Got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since McCain was the strongest, not the weakest, Republican for the general election in the field (not just my opinion, but also our host's), this is more a testament to your political cluelessness than a serious argument.</p></blockquote>
<p>Right. That's why Palin... who unlike McCain, is a real conservative... was outpolling and out drawing MacCain.</p>
<p>Got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So as to get the weakest person into that positon possible.&quot;

Since McCain was the strongest, not the weakest, Republican for the general election in the field (not just my opinion, but also our host&#039;s), this is more a testament to your political cluelessness than a serious argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"So as to get the weakest person into that positon possible."</p>
<p>Since McCain was the strongest, not the weakest, Republican for the general election in the field (not just my opinion, but also our host's), this is more a testament to your political cluelessness than a serious argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin was a dick so the honeymoon ended? This makes zero sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin was a dick so the honeymoon ended? This makes zero sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all, tom... and I&#039;m hardly the first to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS264US264&amp;q=mccain+press+liberal+bias&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;make the observation.&lt;/a&gt; I say again; The Dinosaur&#039;s love for McCain only lasted as long as he wasn&#039;t a serious threat. Once he actually got the nonination, and all the more conservative candidates were shut out,  that love affair ended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all, tom... and I'm hardly the first to <a href="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS264US264&amp;q=mccain+press+liberal+bias" rel="nofollow">make the observation.</a> I say again; The Dinosaur's love for McCain only lasted as long as he wasn't a serious threat. Once he actually got the nonination, and all the more conservative candidates were shut out,  that love affair ended.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So as to get the weakest person into that positon possible. At which point, the press alternately ignored him, or savaged him, depending on mood and Obama&#039;s need.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Bit, if you want to say the MSM has, in general, a liberal bias, fine. But this stretches the boundaries of credulity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So as to get the weakest person into that positon possible. At which point, the press alternately ignored him, or savaged him, depending on mood and Obama's need.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bit, if you want to say the MSM has, in general, a liberal bias, fine. But this stretches the boundaries of credulity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Pretty well. He got the nomination when he was no better than the third choice of most of his party&#039;s voters in large part because the press was calling the race over far too early, pushing Romney out of the race.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


So as to get the weakest person into that positon possible. At which point, the press alternately ignored him, or savaged him, depending on mood and Obama&#039;s need.

Sorry, no sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Pretty well. He got the nomination when he was no better than the third choice of most of his party's voters in large part because the press was calling the race over far too early, pushing Romney out of the race.</p></blockquote>
<p>So as to get the weakest person into that positon possible. At which point, the press alternately ignored him, or savaged him, depending on mood and Obama's need.</p>
<p>Sorry, no sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McCain, who famously called the press his &#039;base&#039;?

Granted he called it that, but tell me; how&#039;d that work out?&quot;

Pretty well.  He got the nomination when he was no better than the third choice of most of his party&#039;s voters in large part because the press was calling the race over far too early, pushing Romney out of the race.

He also managed to pull even in the general election in September when it should have been a blowout, in part because the press was covering for his mistakes.  It was only when he looked like a doofus by suspending his campaign due to the economic crisis (when 72 hours before he said the fundamentals were sound) and then had nothing to contribute to resolve the crisis that he fell behind permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"McCain, who famously called the press his 'base'?</p>
<p>Granted he called it that, but tell me; how'd that work out?"</p>
<p>Pretty well.  He got the nomination when he was no better than the third choice of most of his party's voters in large part because the press was calling the race over far too early, pushing Romney out of the race.</p>
<p>He also managed to pull even in the general election in September when it should have been a blowout, in part because the press was covering for his mistakes.  It was only when he looked like a doofus by suspending his campaign due to the economic crisis (when 72 hours before he said the fundamentals were sound) and then had nothing to contribute to resolve the crisis that he fell behind permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain, who famously called the press his &#039;base&#039;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Granted he called it that, but tell me; how&#039;d that work out?
 
Yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>McCain, who famously called the press his 'base'?</p></blockquote>
<p>Granted he called it that, but tell me; how'd that work out?</p>
<p>Yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very premise of the headline is BS!</description>
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