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	<title>Comments on: Ohio Democrats Fighting to Change Election Process</title>
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		<title>By: A Face Made 4 Radio, A Voice Made 4 the Internet</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ohio_democrats_fighting_to_change_election_process/comment-page-1/#comment-54302</link>
		<dc:creator>A Face Made 4 Radio, A Voice Made 4 the Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Even the NY Times Gets It&lt;/strong&gt;

This time, it is The Times that admits that the left-wing groups that are trying to change the Ohio election process are partisan hacks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Even the NY Times Gets It</strong></p>
<p>This time, it is The Times that admits that the left-wing groups that are trying to change the Ohio election process are partisan hacks</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ohio_democrats_fighting_to_change_election_process/comment-page-1/#comment-54229</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 02:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Democrats, I have some cheese to go along with your WHINE&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Aww, poor Republicans, scared of a fair fight. Always have to rig the system. Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Democrats, I have some cheese to go along with your WHINE</p></blockquote>
<p>Aww, poor Republicans, scared of a fair fight. Always have to rig the system. Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats, I have some cheese to go along with your WHINE.

Or, do you need a diaper change? is that why you are crying ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats, I have some cheese to go along with your WHINE.</p>
<p>Or, do you need a diaper change? is that why you are crying ?</p>
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		<title>By: one bit shy</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ohio_democrats_fighting_to_change_election_process/comment-page-1/#comment-54165</link>
		<dc:creator>one bit shy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I misunderstand, but I thought both the Ohio and California initiatives applied to state legislative districts as well as Congressional - and that it was really the state districting that was the political driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I misunderstand, but I thought both the Ohio and California initiatives applied to state legislative districts as well as Congressional - and that it was really the state districting that was the political driver.</p>
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		<title>By: NIF</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ohio_democrats_fighting_to_change_election_process/comment-page-1/#comment-54159</link>
		<dc:creator>NIF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Opposite of Sleeping In&lt;/strong&gt;

Today&#039;s dose of NIF - News, Interesting &amp; Funny ... halfway there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Opposite of Sleeping In</strong></p>
<p>Today's dose of NIF - News, Interesting &amp; Funny ... halfway there!</p>
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		<title>By: paladin</title>
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		<dc:creator>paladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of Illinois (will the NCAA or the PC police make us change the name of our state?) in order to change the way districts are divided requires 3/5 of the Legislature to agree to propose a Constitutional amendment to be submitted to voters. As it stands Democrats control all three branches of government, and most are from the Chicago area. Snowball&#039;s chance comes to mind here. But we need change.The Economist wrote about my congressional district and said &quot;In a normal democracy, voters choose their representatives. In America, it is rapidly becoming the other around.&quot; Also in the Economist: &quot;Weirdly shaped districts like (this) are signs that a crime has been committed.&quot;My Congressional representative is in the advanced stages of Parkinsons. He can barely communicate, yet we keep returning him to DC, where I&#039;m sure his unelected aides do the work he was elected to do. It just makes me crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of Illinois (will the NCAA or the PC police make us change the name of our state?) in order to change the way districts are divided requires 3/5 of the Legislature to agree to propose a Constitutional amendment to be submitted to voters. As it stands Democrats control all three branches of government, and most are from the Chicago area. Snowball's chance comes to mind here. But we need change.The Economist wrote about my congressional district and said "In a normal democracy, voters choose their representatives. In America, it is rapidly becoming the other around." Also in the Economist: "Weirdly shaped districts like (this) are signs that a crime has been committed."My Congressional representative is in the advanced stages of Parkinsons. He can barely communicate, yet we keep returning him to DC, where I'm sure his unelected aides do the work he was elected to do. It just makes me crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Singleton</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ohio_democrats_fighting_to_change_election_process/comment-page-1/#comment-54152</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Change Election Process&lt;/strong&gt;

District boundaries should be drawn by a computer, that has no idea of how many Democratic or Republican voters there are in a particular area, but where it just tries to draw compact districts with major streets and other geographical features as bo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Change Election Process</strong></p>
<p>District boundaries should be drawn by a computer, that has no idea of how many Democratic or Republican voters there are in a particular area, but where it just tries to draw compact districts with major streets and other geographical features as bo...</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iron:  Are you saying the NYT article is wrong?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Critics of the Republican grip on Ohio politics filed petitions on Tuesday that seek a statewide vote on three constitutional amendments that would overturn the way elections are run and strip elected officials of their power to draw legislative districts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is not coming from the legislature but rather a ballot initiative to amend the state constitution.  And unless Ohio&#039;s constitution is quite unusual, a simple vote from the legislature can not overturn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iron:  Are you saying the NYT article is wrong?</p>
<blockquote><p>Critics of the Republican grip on Ohio politics filed petitions on Tuesday that seek a statewide vote on three constitutional amendments that would overturn the way elections are run and strip elected officials of their power to draw legislative districts.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is not coming from the legislature but rather a ballot initiative to amend the state constitution.  And unless Ohio's constitution is quite unusual, a simple vote from the legislature can not overturn it.</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Lungfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iron Lungfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bill is coming from the state legislature; thus, the state legislature is still the one setting &quot;The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives,&quot; and could in theory pass another bill down the line restoring its power to gerrymander districts as much as it wants to. This is perfectly constitutional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bill is coming from the state legislature; thus, the state legislature is still the one setting "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives," and could in theory pass another bill down the line restoring its power to gerrymander districts as much as it wants to. This is perfectly constitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my understanding that the &quot;independent&quot; panel that would be put in place would just happen to end up with 2 Democrats and 1 Republican member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding that the "independent" panel that would be put in place would just happen to end up with 2 Democrats and 1 Republican member.</p>
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