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		<title>By: dj elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/operation_swarmer_less_than_advertised/comment-page-1/#comment-76778</link>
		<dc:creator>dj elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think my punctuation is bad, you should see my writings without a spell check.  
As to how smart am I, not very.  
I was dumb enough to spend 22 years of my life protecting and defending your right to make a fool of yourself (or not) in over 43 countries. 
My perspectives are not entirely US due to that time overseas.
And I believe that knowledge without practical experience can be dangerous.  Between theory and implementation, things change.
I tend to be outspoken about the mid-east because I spent soooo much time there.
There is much that I do not comment on because, I do not know.  
When I was a teen, I knew everything.  The older I get, the more I realize that I have scrapped the tip of the surface of the iceberg of knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think my punctuation is bad, you should see my writings without a spell check.<br />
As to how smart am I, not very.<br />
I was dumb enough to spend 22 years of my life protecting and defending your right to make a fool of yourself (or not) in over 43 countries.<br />
My perspectives are not entirely US due to that time overseas.<br />
And I believe that knowledge without practical experience can be dangerous.  Between theory and implementation, things change.<br />
I tend to be outspoken about the mid-east because I spent soooo much time there.<br />
There is much that I do not comment on because, I do not know.<br />
When I was a teen, I knew everything.  The older I get, the more I realize that I have scrapped the tip of the surface of the iceberg of knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dj,

Before you use up too many more pixels telling us how bright you are, you might want to learn how to use a &quot;?&quot; at the end of a sentence that poses a question.

Truly intelligent people generally have better things to do then tell total stranger how smart they are.  Apparently you do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dj,</p>
<p>Before you use up too many more pixels telling us how bright you are, you might want to learn how to use a "?" at the end of a sentence that poses a question.</p>
<p>Truly intelligent people generally have better things to do then tell total stranger how smart they are.  Apparently you do not.</p>
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		<title>By: dj elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 01:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify my reference to the Koran/constitution.

- Look at what the radical/fundamentalist Muslims claim is Islam.  Compare to the writings of the Koran.

- Look at what the radical left/right says is constitutional or not. Compare to the constitution.

Same type of corruption.  
Just like Stalin and Hitler were two sides of the same coin.

I consider myself Libertarian.

As to my former profession, read my previous posts and think literally vice trying to interpret it.  Precision in speech was part of my training in-order to reduce the GIGO factor.

If I were to interpret your &quot;fascist&quot; reaction, like you have with my statements, I would have to note that you have all the signs of a guilty conscience.

Do not assume...  Open your mind, research and find out.  And always check your assumptions and work.  The ID and your preconceptions will always tell you that you are right, even when you are not.  Smart people are always doublechecking their facts and assumptions and avoid jumping to conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify my reference to the Koran/constitution.</p>
<p>- Look at what the radical/fundamentalist Muslims claim is Islam.  Compare to the writings of the Koran.</p>
<p>- Look at what the radical left/right says is constitutional or not. Compare to the constitution.</p>
<p>Same type of corruption.<br />
Just like Stalin and Hitler were two sides of the same coin.</p>
<p>I consider myself Libertarian.</p>
<p>As to my former profession, read my previous posts and think literally vice trying to interpret it.  Precision in speech was part of my training in-order to reduce the GIGO factor.</p>
<p>If I were to interpret your "fascist" reaction, like you have with my statements, I would have to note that you have all the signs of a guilty conscience.</p>
<p>Do not assume...  Open your mind, research and find out.  And always check your assumptions and work.  The ID and your preconceptions will always tell you that you are right, even when you are not.  Smart people are always doublechecking their facts and assumptions and avoid jumping to conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: dj elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koran, bible, constitution, saints etc.

Power hungry politicians of all colors, creeds, and beliefs have twisted every document, belief or philosophy ever created in their pursuit of power.

&quot;Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.&quot;

Democrat, Republican, or whatever.  Our elected officials and those they appoint are in power.  

That is why I believe in term limits. 

I also consider priests and press to be politicians in disguise.  And lawyers a form of parasite. 

If you want to change the constitution, get it amended.  The Supreme Court is the wrong venue.

P.S. 
Read the portion of the constitution on Judicial powers.  
It is an imperfect system.

You might want to compare 2000 to the Jefferson/Burr mess in the early days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koran, bible, constitution, saints etc.</p>
<p>Power hungry politicians of all colors, creeds, and beliefs have twisted every document, belief or philosophy ever created in their pursuit of power.</p>
<p>"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely."</p>
<p>Democrat, Republican, or whatever.  Our elected officials and those they appoint are in power.  </p>
<p>That is why I believe in term limits. </p>
<p>I also consider priests and press to be politicians in disguise.  And lawyers a form of parasite. </p>
<p>If you want to change the constitution, get it amended.  The Supreme Court is the wrong venue.</p>
<p>P.S.<br />
Read the portion of the constitution on Judicial powers.<br />
It is an imperfect system.</p>
<p>You might want to compare 2000 to the Jefferson/Burr mess in the early days...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dj,

By the way, your little comment about the Koran is pretty cute.  So I guess the implication is that if someone disagrees with your politics, they are a possible enemy sympathiser, or somehow not patriotic.  What do you do for a living, teach fascism 101?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dj,</p>
<p>By the way, your little comment about the Koran is pretty cute.  So I guess the implication is that if someone disagrees with your politics, they are a possible enemy sympathiser, or somehow not patriotic.  What do you do for a living, teach fascism 101?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ,

I missed the part in the constitution about it being cool for Harris to put in the fix to deliver FL to Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ,</p>
<p>I missed the part in the constitution about it being cool for Harris to put in the fix to deliver FL to Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem is that the media just wants either an exciting news story or bad news, because bad news is much more fun to cover than good news.  

I also think way too many liberals and press members are stuck in Vietnam, and desire for this to be just like Vietnam, as much for the &quot;controversy&quot; as for anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem is that the media just wants either an exciting news story or bad news, because bad news is much more fun to cover than good news.  </p>
<p>I also think way too many liberals and press members are stuck in Vietnam, and desire for this to be just like Vietnam, as much for the "controversy" as for anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire Operation seemed to be a figment of the MSM Imagination. The MSM is now touting the war as a Civil War and will not be happy until they are proven right either by facts or the usual MSM fiction that they lay before us on a daily basis. 

This entire Iraq operation is starting to look like Vietnam all over again when all the mal-contents, hippies, yippies, flower children and drug user was out marching and causing great harm to our troops, The one thing no one mentions is the number of killed and wounded caused by those who demonstrated against the war.

It is truly a shame that we still have an element amoung us that is doing everything possible to bring the entire USA to its knees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire Operation seemed to be a figment of the MSM Imagination. The MSM is now touting the war as a Civil War and will not be happy until they are proven right either by facts or the usual MSM fiction that they lay before us on a daily basis. </p>
<p>This entire Iraq operation is starting to look like Vietnam all over again when all the mal-contents, hippies, yippies, flower children and drug user was out marching and causing great harm to our troops, The one thing no one mentions is the number of killed and wounded caused by those who demonstrated against the war.</p>
<p>It is truly a shame that we still have an element amoung us that is doing everything possible to bring the entire USA to its knees.</p>
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		<title>By: dj elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anjin-san:

The problem is that the President is not directly elected.  We vote for representatives to the electoral college and they are not all required to split their vote on percentage lines or even vote as the population they represented voted. 
 
Put that together with a low percentage of US population that bothers to vote and you will have problems.  (Iraqi vote had a larger turnout percentage than ours.)

US Presidents elected by a minority of the vote eligible citizens in not a new thing.

If you want to fix it then push for an amendment to the constitution requiring direct nationwide popular vote for president.
  
While you are at it you might sue both Democrat and Republican Parties for their unconstitutional primary system.

By the way, have you read the constitution.  It is a very short document that has much ascribed to it (by radical of all flavors) that is not there.  Just like the Koran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anjin-san:</p>
<p>The problem is that the President is not directly elected.  We vote for representatives to the electoral college and they are not all required to split their vote on percentage lines or even vote as the population they represented voted. </p>
<p>Put that together with a low percentage of US population that bothers to vote and you will have problems.  (Iraqi vote had a larger turnout percentage than ours.)</p>
<p>US Presidents elected by a minority of the vote eligible citizens in not a new thing.</p>
<p>If you want to fix it then push for an amendment to the constitution requiring direct nationwide popular vote for president.</p>
<p>While you are at it you might sue both Democrat and Republican Parties for their unconstitutional primary system.</p>
<p>By the way, have you read the constitution.  It is a very short document that has much ascribed to it (by radical of all flavors) that is not there.  Just like the Koran.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right dj, the press does have trouble getting it right. They said Bush won the 2000 election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right dj, the press does have trouble getting it right. They said Bush won the 2000 election.</p>
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		<title>By: dj elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Operation Swarmer is a piece of what is going on.  look up what else is going on in adjacent Districts.  Salah ad Din and remainder of Baqubah Province will be turned over to the Iraqis soon.
But first, a little house cleaning.

As for the press, I have never seen them get a story right.  And I am a Retired USN Intel Spec (22 years).  I think I need to go back to ignoring their BS.  They get my Irish up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Operation Swarmer is a piece of what is going on.  look up what else is going on in adjacent Districts.  Salah ad Din and remainder of Baqubah Province will be turned over to the Iraqis soon.<br />
But first, a little house cleaning.</p>
<p>As for the press, I have never seen them get a story right.  And I am a Retired USN Intel Spec (22 years).  I think I need to go back to ignoring their BS.  They get my Irish up.</p>
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		<title>By: dj elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reality vs hype/spin.  
Note: the military provided no more initial releases than normal.  
I think the press just had a slow news day.
That and a high vis reporter from the print side is in town and scooping the ussual MSM suspects.

I sent this to CNN/Fox:
&lt;em&gt;
[Cut-and-paste comment deleted after multiple postings of same]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reality vs hype/spin.<br />
Note: the military provided no more initial releases than normal.<br />
I think the press just had a slow news day.<br />
That and a high vis reporter from the print side is in town and scooping the ussual MSM suspects.</p>
<p>I sent this to CNN/Fox:<br />
<em><br />
[Cut-and-paste comment deleted after multiple postings of same]</em></p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yaj:  Don&#039;t deny that the story was poorly reported--by the military contributed to that.  The bottom line is that this was a minor exercise and not worthy of a big press conference and operation name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yaj:  Don't deny that the story was poorly reported--by the military contributed to that.  The bottom line is that this was a minor exercise and not worthy of a big press conference and operation name.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling a big press conference and getting the press excited about â??the largest air assault sinceâ?¦â?? is bound to generate some â??this was big shamâ?? stories once it proves less than that. 

Excuse me, but did you have some evidence that it wasn&#039;t the largest air assault. The fact that the press is so clueless on military matters that they can&#039;t distinguish between an air strike and an air assault is somehow the fault of the military.

I think it highlights the &quot;big sham&quot; on MSM reporting in Iraq more than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling a big press conference and getting the press excited about â??the largest air assault sinceâ?¦â?? is bound to generate some â??this was big shamâ?? stories once it proves less than that. </p>
<p>Excuse me, but did you have some evidence that it wasn't the largest air assault. The fact that the press is so clueless on military matters that they can't distinguish between an air strike and an air assault is somehow the fault of the military.</p>
<p>I think it highlights the "big sham" on MSM reporting in Iraq more than anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Middle Earth Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Middle Earth Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;day. The generals here also are under tremendous pressure to show off some functioning Iraqi troops before the third anniversary, and I won’t fault them for going into a region loaded for bear. After all, the Iraqi intelligence might have been right.James Joyneragrees with Allbritton assessment. That strikes me as a fair assessment. As I wrote when learning of the operation, “highly visible action is sometimes necessary for maintaining the will to fight on one’s own side.” But for that to be effective,&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->day. The generals here also are under tremendous pressure to show off some functioning Iraqi troops before the third anniversary, and I won&rsquo;t fault them for going into a region loaded for bear. After all, the Iraqi intelligence might have been right.James Joyneragrees with Allbritton assessment. That strikes me as a fair assessment. As I wrote when learning of the operation, “highly visible action is sometimes necessary for maintaining the will to fight on one&rsquo;s own side.” But for that to be effective,<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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