Comments on: Oregon Uses Sexy Teens to Entrap Store Clerks

By: Doug

Doug — Sat, 03 Jun 2006 17:28:15 +0000

You take this testosterone loaded kid, you place him in the most dangerous job in America, and then you flash a mini skirt and large hooters at him and expect him to do his job. Still, I wonder if he would have noticed if she had a gun.

I believe the only thing that keeps the OLCC in business is the law against underage drinking. Do away with the law and do away with the need for the OLCC. Does Oregon truly need more bureaucracy? You might think this argument is asinine but consider the laws in Europe were the only thing you need to buy alcohol is the ability to reach the bar. They seem to have far less problems with underage drinking. (truly I'm being facetious but they don't have a lot of alcohol related problems because they are not regulated as harshly as in the states.)

Hey didn't Oregon have a big push to legalize Marijuana? I wonder if she was buying pot would the results have been the same. Pass the bong, baby!!!

By: almostboiledfrog

almostboiledfrog — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:51:06 +0000

And what is so unusual about draconian punishments being levied against against those least able to protect themselves from them?

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:24:41 +0000

I was carded a few years back at the Chili's in O'hare airport. Unusual, but I didn't think to much of it (I wish, but don't unfortunately look anything close to 20). Then a man was carded who had to be at least 60 (and rough years at that) and more likely in his 70's or 80's). I asked the bartender why and he said they had to go to a card everyone policy because of some police stings. They had some underage people who looked old enough come in and get drinks as part of the sting. Since they were told that one more violation would cost them their liquor license (and the loss of the liquor license would likely make the rent paid uneconomical) they went to carding everyone. Even in the case of a clearly of age drinker (I'll give them me, but you should have seen the old guy). I don't know how big an issue underage drinking was behind the security lines at O'hare, but my suspicion is that other than potentially spring break and going to and from college that this is not a big issue. Still it is the law and the restaurant was passing the hassling they got from the authorities on to their customers. The store probably has surveillance cameras at work. Their defense would be strengthened if they could put a video up on youtube showing a girl with bodacious ta-tas flirting with the clerk and clearly distracting him. The story is not inconceivable. The law is still the law and the police using a sting agent who can pass is not unreasonable. But just as I hate those commercials that use beer to sell sex, I don't like the idea of the police using sex to entrap buyers of beer.

By: Steven Plunk

Steven Plunk — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:20:48 +0000

Oregon's nanny state mentality coupled with it's heavy regulatory atmosphere has created many state bureaucracies that revel in prosecuting citizens. Hidden behind the claim they are only enforcing the law these quasi-cops love the rush of catching perps and know notches on the belt translate into promotions down the road.

In the long run all it does is take what is a normally law abiding citizen and turns them into an uniformed criminal. The bureaucracy then reaps the rewards of more money from the state budget.

Tricks like this are cheap and uncalled for. Everyone makes mistakes, just ask the head of the Oregon Liquor Control who was recently arrested for... driving under the influence.

By: ICallMasICM

ICallMasICM — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:13:59 +0000

One could certainly argue that itâ??s a waste of state resources to enforce drinking and smoking ages since they have little or no effect.