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		<title>By: MICHELE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MICHELE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fascists? may want to look to bush and co.

lots more out there - http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm

The 7 conditions (Warning signs)
that foster &amp; fuel fascism are: 

Instability of capitalist relationships or markets 

The existence of considerable declassed social elements 

The stripping of rights and wealth focused upon a specific segment of the population, specifically the middle class and intellectuals within urban areas as this the group with the means, intelligence and ability to stop fascism if given the opportunity. 

Discontent among the rural lower middle class (clerks, secretaries, white collar labor). Consistent discontent among the general middle and lower middle classes against the oppressing upper-classes (haves vs have-nots). 

Hate: Pronounced, perpetuated and accepted public disdain of a specific group defined by race, origin, theology or association. 

Greed: The motivator of fascism, which is generally associated with land, space or scarce resources in the possession of those being oppressed.
  

Organized Propaganda: 

a) The creation of social mythology that venerates (creates saints of) one element of society while concurrently vilifying (dehumanizing) another element of the population through misinformation, misdirection and the obscuring of factual matter through removal, destruction or social humiliation, (name-calling, false accusations, belittling and threats). 

b) The squelching of public debate not agreeing with the popular agenda via slander, libel, threats, theft, destruction, historical revisionism and social humiliation.  Journalists in particular are terrorized if they attempt to publish stories contrary to the agenda.

3. Fascism dovetails business &amp; government sectors into a single economic unit, while concurrently increasing in-fighting and distrust between the units fostering advancement towards war. TOP

4. a) Fascism promotes chauvinist demagogy, (appealing to the prejudices and emotions of the populace) by fostering selective persecution and accepted public vilification of the target group. It then promotes this a &quot;patriotic&quot;, &quot;supportive&quot; or &quot;the party line&quot; and disagreement with such as &quot;anti-government&quot;, &quot;anti-faith&quot; or &quot;anti-nation&quot;. 

b) Fascism creates confusion through &quot;facts&quot;. It relies on junk science, revisionism, the elimination of cultural records/treasures and obfuscations to create its case and gain acceptance. Fascism can also combine Marxist critiques of capitalism or faith based critics of the same to re-define middle class perceptions of democracy and  to force its issues, confuse logic and create majority consensus between targeted groups.  This is also referred to as creating a state of Cognitive Dissonance, the mental state most human beings are easily manipulated within. TOP

5. Both middle and upper-middle-class dictated democracy and fascism are class dictatorships that use organized violence (verbal or physical) to maintain the class rule of the oppressors over the oppressed. 

The difference between the two is demonstrated by the policies towards non-lower-working class classes.  Fascism attains power through the substitution of one state&#039;s form of class domination with another form, generally a middle class based  republic segues into an open terrorist dictatorship, run by a few elite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fascists? may want to look to bush and co.</p>
<p>lots more out there - <a href="http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm</a></p>
<p>The 7 conditions (Warning signs)<br />
that foster &amp; fuel fascism are: </p>
<p>Instability of capitalist relationships or markets </p>
<p>The existence of considerable declassed social elements </p>
<p>The stripping of rights and wealth focused upon a specific segment of the population, specifically the middle class and intellectuals within urban areas as this the group with the means, intelligence and ability to stop fascism if given the opportunity. </p>
<p>Discontent among the rural lower middle class (clerks, secretaries, white collar labor). Consistent discontent among the general middle and lower middle classes against the oppressing upper-classes (haves vs have-nots). </p>
<p>Hate: Pronounced, perpetuated and accepted public disdain of a specific group defined by race, origin, theology or association. </p>
<p>Greed: The motivator of fascism, which is generally associated with land, space or scarce resources in the possession of those being oppressed.</p>
<p>Organized Propaganda: </p>
<p>a) The creation of social mythology that venerates (creates saints of) one element of society while concurrently vilifying (dehumanizing) another element of the population through misinformation, misdirection and the obscuring of factual matter through removal, destruction or social humiliation, (name-calling, false accusations, belittling and threats). </p>
<p>b) The squelching of public debate not agreeing with the popular agenda via slander, libel, threats, theft, destruction, historical revisionism and social humiliation.  Journalists in particular are terrorized if they attempt to publish stories contrary to the agenda.</p>
<p>3. Fascism dovetails business &amp; government sectors into a single economic unit, while concurrently increasing in-fighting and distrust between the units fostering advancement towards war. TOP</p>
<p>4. a) Fascism promotes chauvinist demagogy, (appealing to the prejudices and emotions of the populace) by fostering selective persecution and accepted public vilification of the target group. It then promotes this a "patriotic", "supportive" or "the party line" and disagreement with such as "anti-government", "anti-faith" or "anti-nation". </p>
<p>b) Fascism creates confusion through "facts". It relies on junk science, revisionism, the elimination of cultural records/treasures and obfuscations to create its case and gain acceptance. Fascism can also combine Marxist critiques of capitalism or faith based critics of the same to re-define middle class perceptions of democracy and  to force its issues, confuse logic and create majority consensus between targeted groups.  This is also referred to as creating a state of Cognitive Dissonance, the mental state most human beings are easily manipulated within. TOP</p>
<p>5. Both middle and upper-middle-class dictated democracy and fascism are class dictatorships that use organized violence (verbal or physical) to maintain the class rule of the oppressors over the oppressed. </p>
<p>The difference between the two is demonstrated by the policies towards non-lower-working class classes.  Fascism attains power through the substitution of one state's form of class domination with another form, generally a middle class based  republic segues into an open terrorist dictatorship, run by a few elite</p>
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		<title>By: MICHELE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MICHELE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eucharist desecration happens according to the church everyday

if your divorced and recieve it.

if you have sinned mind body or spirit and have not confessed.

and I&#039;m sure  bigoted &#039; christians &#039; would ( and some have) take up arms and commited a hate crime against gays if it ment they wouldn&#039;t get legally punished - god they seem to forget about</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eucharist desecration happens according to the church everyday</p>
<p>if your divorced and recieve it.</p>
<p>if you have sinned mind body or spirit and have not confessed.</p>
<p>and I'm sure  bigoted ' christians ' would ( and some have) take up arms and commited a hate crime against gays if it ment they wouldn't get legally punished - god they seem to forget about</p>
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		<title>By: JackLewis.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackLewis.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pentagon confirms &quot;disrespect&quot; for Koran&lt;/strong&gt;

From USAToday... U.S. military officials say no guard at the Guantanamo Bay prison for terror suspects flushed a detainee&#039;s Koran...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Pentagon confirms "disrespect" for Koran</strong></p>
<p>From USAToday... U.S. military officials say no guard at the Guantanamo Bay prison for terror suspects flushed a detainee's Koran...</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, if what you say is true, then the real analog to desecrating the Koran is desecrating the Eucharist, which in Catholic belief *is* the body of Christ in a form that can be seen and touched.  (Catholics, feel free to correct me if I&#039;ve misunderstood your beliefs.)  

There have been incidents of Eucharist desecration in this country in recent memory, yet there were no riots nor were any of those responsible (primarily gay activists) lynched by outraged Catholics.

So I think your ruminations here fall a little short.  The differences between Christians and Islamofascists are a bit more profound than just a difference in how seriously they view certain religious slights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, if what you say is true, then the real analog to desecrating the Koran is desecrating the Eucharist, which in Catholic belief *is* the body of Christ in a form that can be seen and touched.  (Catholics, feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood your beliefs.)  </p>
<p>There have been incidents of Eucharist desecration in this country in recent memory, yet there were no riots nor were any of those responsible (primarily gay activists) lynched by outraged Catholics.</p>
<p>So I think your ruminations here fall a little short.  The differences between Christians and Islamofascists are a bit more profound than just a difference in how seriously they view certain religious slights.</p>
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		<title>By: MICHELE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MICHELE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 04:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you want a real truth? hope you can handle it,

god makes no distinction between jew,christian,muslim,hindu or buddist. 
to say god choses one over another is to keep god very small and human like . God NEVER takes a side in war - that is mistaken human belief.

god represents itself in a way we can understand - wouldn&#039;t it be a good laugh if god chose to show up to some bigot after he/she has passed as some overweight , black , lesbian ?

why is it that humans limit gods power to a few? it&#039;s like children saying dad/mom loves me better --god loves all the same regardless of what any human rule or thought. ( including any book)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you want a real truth? hope you can handle it,</p>
<p>god makes no distinction between jew,christian,muslim,hindu or buddist.<br />
to say god choses one over another is to keep god very small and human like . God NEVER takes a side in war - that is mistaken human belief.</p>
<p>god represents itself in a way we can understand - wouldn't it be a good laugh if god chose to show up to some bigot after he/she has passed as some overweight , black , lesbian ?</p>
<p>why is it that humans limit gods power to a few? it's like children saying dad/mom loves me better --god loves all the same regardless of what any human rule or thought. ( including any book)</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Koran is the devils book and must be purged from our land! Does the FBI even know what is written in the Koran? It could persecute countless amount of religions and no one would know except the infidels who preach its words!
Islam is more a cult than a religion, and it must be stopped in the name of our Lord!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Koran is the devils book and must be purged from our land! Does the FBI even know what is written in the Koran? It could persecute countless amount of religions and no one would know except the infidels who preach its words!<br />
Islam is more a cult than a religion, and it must be stopped in the name of our Lord!</p>
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		<title>By: mlah</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a crock. muslims do not think that the qoran is God. christians do in fact believe that christ is part of the trinity who comprise the lord God almighty. trying to say that muslims view the qoran the same way christians revere christ is a muslim attempt at &#039;taqqiya&#039;, simply to befuddle non-believing infidels, and thus get their way..

i had a moron who recently equated touching the qoran to a human rights violation on my own site..

it&#039;s the same old song and dance. we must hold islam in a superior and more delicate esteem because it is the master religion. they&#039;re modern day fascists. little else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a crock. muslims do not think that the qoran is God. christians do in fact believe that christ is part of the trinity who comprise the lord God almighty. trying to say that muslims view the qoran the same way christians revere christ is a muslim attempt at 'taqqiya', simply to befuddle non-believing infidels, and thus get their way..</p>
<p>i had a moron who recently equated touching the qoran to a human rights violation on my own site..</p>
<p>it's the same old song and dance. we must hold islam in a superior and more delicate esteem because it is the master religion. they're modern day fascists. little else.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Singleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 15:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Koran Versus the Bible&lt;/strong&gt;

See my post for particular quotes from the Qu&#039;ran which Muslims are ignoring.</description>
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<p>See my post for particular quotes from the Qu'ran which Muslims are ignoring.</p>
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