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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/over-reading_the_election_returns/comment-page-1/#comment-103603</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spencer:  

Our spending on defense quite literally exceeds that of all other countries on the planet combined. And that&#039;s without counting intelligence and homeland security monies.

We are amazingly wealthy. Defense spending as a percentage of GDP is, therefore, a rather odd metric.  We&#039;re simply much, much wealthier than we were in 1950.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spencer:  </p>
<p>Our spending on defense quite literally exceeds that of all other countries on the planet combined. And that's without counting intelligence and homeland security monies.</p>
<p>We are amazingly wealthy. Defense spending as a percentage of GDP is, therefore, a rather odd metric.  We're simply much, much wealthier than we were in 1950.</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a percent of GDP defense spending it is 3.8% or at near post WW II lows. The only time it was lower was 1995-2004 when it averaged about 3.5%.

In other words the Bush administration claims we are in a war for Western Civilization but is only willing to allocate less then 0.5% of GDP
to fight the war. In Korea it rose  from 3.6% to 14.2% and in Vietnam it jumped from 7.4% to 9.5%.

How do you expect to win a war when you do not give the troops the resources they need to win?

Maybe it is because if Bush were honest about the true cost of the war -- remember one of the first casualties was his economic adviser Larry Linsey for trying to make an honest estimate -- he would have to give up his tax cuts.

Are we losing the war because his tax cuts are more important to Bush then winning the war?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a percent of GDP defense spending it is 3.8% or at near post WW II lows. The only time it was lower was 1995-2004 when it averaged about 3.5%.</p>
<p>In other words the Bush administration claims we are in a war for Western Civilization but is only willing to allocate less then 0.5% of GDP<br />
to fight the war. In Korea it rose  from 3.6% to 14.2% and in Vietnam it jumped from 7.4% to 9.5%.</p>
<p>How do you expect to win a war when you do not give the troops the resources they need to win?</p>
<p>Maybe it is because if Bush were honest about the true cost of the war -- remember one of the first casualties was his economic adviser Larry Linsey for trying to make an honest estimate -- he would have to give up his tax cuts.</p>
<p>Are we losing the war because his tax cuts are more important to Bush then winning the war?</p>
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		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/over-reading_the_election_returns/comment-page-1/#comment-103564</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;a strong defense, lower taxes, less government, and family values&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Those pillars are like sunshine and puppies; no one’s against them&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really????????cDems are for a strong defense, lower taxes, less government?????????????? Come visit Massachusetts my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>a strong defense, lower taxes, less government, and family values</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Those pillars are like sunshine and puppies; no one&rsquo;s against them</p></blockquote>
<p>Really????????cDems are for a strong defense, lower taxes, less government?????????????? Come visit Massachusetts my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: jpe</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/over-reading_the_election_returns/comment-page-1/#comment-103527</link>
		<dc:creator>jpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First, I’d love to see the Democrats run against those four pillars in 2008.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Those pillars are like sunshine and puppies; no one&#039;s against them.  The questions that divide the parties turn on the costs that have to be borne to secure &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First, I&rsquo;d love to see the Democrats run against those four pillars in 2008.</p></blockquote>
<p>Those pillars are like sunshine and puppies; no one's against them.  The questions that divide the parties turn on the costs that have to be borne to secure 'em.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;the four pillars of conservatism—a strong defense, lower taxes, less government, and family values—no longer sustain a voting majority and no longer command support as a governing philosophy&lt;/em&gt;

Better to say that they&#039;re necessary, but not sufficient.

You can&#039;t have lower taxes, for ex, when you&#039;re spending $4 billion a week on a stupid war in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>the four pillars of conservatism—a strong defense, lower taxes, less government, and family values—no longer sustain a voting majority and no longer command support as a governing philosophy</em></p>
<p>Better to say that they're necessary, but not sufficient.</p>
<p>You can't have lower taxes, for ex, when you're spending $4 billion a week on a stupid war in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoosier Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoosier Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true.  We won this election because, well, the Republicans screwed up.  Repeatedly and disastrously.  These new Democratic voters weren&#039;t voting FOR any agenda; they were sending a message that &quot;What you&#039;re doing isn&#039;t working.  Try something else.&quot;

And I&#039;m heartened to see that it looks like Pelosi, Reid, et. al. understand this.  So far the talk has been of reconciliation and bipartisanship.  They seem to understand that if the Dems are perceived as not doing anything useful, they&#039;ll be voted out too.  

As for Podesta, I chalk this up to residual euphoria--I mean, cmon, we haven&#039;t really won a national election for ten years!  There&#039;s a large backlog of &quot;We&#039;re number one!&quot; chants that have built up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true.  We won this election because, well, the Republicans screwed up.  Repeatedly and disastrously.  These new Democratic voters weren't voting FOR any agenda; they were sending a message that "What you're doing isn't working.  Try something else."</p>
<p>And I'm heartened to see that it looks like Pelosi, Reid, et. al. understand this.  So far the talk has been of reconciliation and bipartisanship.  They seem to understand that if the Dems are perceived as not doing anything useful, they'll be voted out too.  </p>
<p>As for Podesta, I chalk this up to residual euphoria--I mean, cmon, we haven't really won a national election for ten years!  There's a large backlog of "We're number one!" chants that have built up...</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly don&#039;t know what drugs these guys that are claiming that the election is a &#039;repudiation&#039; of conservativism are taking, but I don&#039;t think I want any.  They cause delusional spewing of the mouth. 

The entire election, for the republican base, was about the fact that the current crop of republicans are really NOTHING about conservativism and all about pork spending and ‘scandal’ coverup.  

Real Republicans take their garbage out in public and kick it to the curb.  The current batch only does so when forced to and then wants to scuffle around and make excuses for covering crap up in the first place.  In other words, the current republican crop looks too much like Ted Kennedy.

The fact that the Democrats ran the gammit on the election by electing mostly conservatives (I think) proves my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don't know what drugs these guys that are claiming that the election is a 'repudiation' of conservativism are taking, but I don't think I want any.  They cause delusional spewing of the mouth. </p>
<p>The entire election, for the republican base, was about the fact that the current crop of republicans are really NOTHING about conservativism and all about pork spending and ‘scandal&rsquo; coverup.  </p>
<p>Real Republicans take their garbage out in public and kick it to the curb.  The current batch only does so when forced to and then wants to scuffle around and make excuses for covering crap up in the first place.  In other words, the current republican crop looks too much like Ted Kennedy.</p>
<p>The fact that the Democrats ran the gammit on the election by electing mostly conservatives (I think) proves my point.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My theory is that this election wasn&#039;t so much a rejection of conservative values-social/fiscal/whatever, but was more a rejection of single party government, where one party controls all houses.  I don&#039;t think it is a mandate for liberal or even a proggressive agenda, it was more a repudiation of the guys with the R&#039;s beside their name, whether that repudiation is permanent, or a 2006 blip remains to be seen.  

I also think you are right that the democrats did a nice job of connecting all the GOP races to the Bush white house and to Iraq policy.  Now that the dems are in control of at least some portions of government, they are going to have to step up and do something-they can&#039;t just point at the GOP and say &quot;no&quot; anymore or &quot;we don&#039;t like that idea.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My theory is that this election wasn't so much a rejection of conservative values-social/fiscal/whatever, but was more a rejection of single party government, where one party controls all houses.  I don't think it is a mandate for liberal or even a proggressive agenda, it was more a repudiation of the guys with the R's beside their name, whether that repudiation is permanent, or a 2006 blip remains to be seen.  </p>
<p>I also think you are right that the democrats did a nice job of connecting all the GOP races to the Bush white house and to Iraq policy.  Now that the dems are in control of at least some portions of government, they are going to have to step up and do something-they can't just point at the GOP and say "no" anymore or "we don't like that idea."</p>
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