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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davod,

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adn.com/money/industries/oil/pipeline/story/255462.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;scheduled completion date &lt;/a&gt;for the TransCanada pipeline is 2018.  That&#039;s assuming they get Federal approval, which they don&#039;t have yet.  (Of course, if they don&#039;t get it, they still get millions of dollars from the Alaskan government, so I don&#039;t know if they&#039;re in a hurry.)  Federal approval may not be forthcoming, as the TransCanada proposal provides that the U.S. government guarantee revenues if initial gas production does not meet expectations--a guarantee that might be in the billions.  Additionally, TransCanada has yet to sign any contracts with natural gas producers to actually have something to transport on the line.  Right now this is shaping up to be quite the boondoggle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davod,</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.adn.com/money/industries/oil/pipeline/story/255462.html" rel="nofollow">scheduled completion date </a>for the TransCanada pipeline is 2018.  That's assuming they get Federal approval, which they don't have yet.  (Of course, if they don't get it, they still get millions of dollars from the Alaskan government, so I don't know if they're in a hurry.)  Federal approval may not be forthcoming, as the TransCanada proposal provides that the U.S. government guarantee revenues if initial gas production does not meet expectations--a guarantee that might be in the billions.  Additionally, TransCanada has yet to sign any contracts with natural gas producers to actually have something to transport on the line.  Right now this is shaping up to be quite the boondoggle.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex:


Keep it up.  At this rate you might even convince some of us by the 2016 elections. Especially if Palin is re-elected Governor, and construction has been completed on the pipeline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex:</p>
<p>Keep it up.  At this rate you might even convince some of us by the 2016 elections. Especially if Palin is re-elected Governor, and construction has been completed on the pipeline.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess I&#039;m not a conservative if that&#039;s what David Brooks is. I think I am a classical liberal, but the word liberal now has a meaning 180 degrees out of phase with the old definition. To whatever extent I like Sarah Palin it has to do with her being almost the complete opposite of what John McCain and Barrack Obama are in many respects.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But in what way?  If you look at her record, she&#039;s no classical liberal.  The town of Wasilla had to hire a City Manager because she wasn&#039;t doing the work she was supposed to be doing--this in a town too small to have a Fire Department, mind you.  I just don&#039;t get it.  Her years as Mayor left Wasilla in debt and with a boondoggle of a sports complex that she didn&#039;t get proper title for the land for.  Her legacy as governor in her less than 2 years of service is a ballooning budget and oil taxes so high that the major oil companies ended up CANCELLING drilling projects there.  The pipeline she&#039;s so proud of commits millions of dollars of state money to TransCanada EVEN IF THE PIPELINE DOESN&#039;T GET BUILT.  

What&#039;s good about her record?  Almost nothing, as far as I can tell.  She blew the whistle on some corruption, but only when it was politically convenient for her.  Just as political convenience didn&#039;t stop her from working to re-elect Ted Stevens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess I'm not a conservative if that's what David Brooks is. I think I am a classical liberal, but the word liberal now has a meaning 180 degrees out of phase with the old definition. To whatever extent I like Sarah Palin it has to do with her being almost the complete opposite of what John McCain and Barrack Obama are in many respects.</p></blockquote>
<p>But in what way?  If you look at her record, she's no classical liberal.  The town of Wasilla had to hire a City Manager because she wasn't doing the work she was supposed to be doing--this in a town too small to have a Fire Department, mind you.  I just don't get it.  Her years as Mayor left Wasilla in debt and with a boondoggle of a sports complex that she didn't get proper title for the land for.  Her legacy as governor in her less than 2 years of service is a ballooning budget and oil taxes so high that the major oil companies ended up CANCELLING drilling projects there.  The pipeline she's so proud of commits millions of dollars of state money to TransCanada EVEN IF THE PIPELINE DOESN'T GET BUILT.  </p>
<p>What's good about her record?  Almost nothing, as far as I can tell.  She blew the whistle on some corruption, but only when it was politically convenient for her.  Just as political convenience didn't stop her from working to re-elect Ted Stevens.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, just maybe I think Alaskan&#039;s are smarter than you give them credit for, i.e. that they wouldn&#039;t elect and overwhelmingly approve of someone as governor who isn&#039;t reasonably capable.  Or maybe I take the word of people like Camille Paglia or Lorne Michaels who have no reason to say they are impressed with her other than that they don&#039;t suffer from PDS. 

Now, where did I claim that I know her at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, just maybe I think Alaskan's are smarter than you give them credit for, i.e. that they wouldn't elect and overwhelmingly approve of someone as governor who isn't reasonably capable.  Or maybe I take the word of people like Camille Paglia or Lorne Michaels who have no reason to say they are impressed with her other than that they don't suffer from PDS. </p>
<p>Now, where did I claim that I know her at all?</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t commented on this because I think it is boring and unknowable ... but reading it over I can&#039;t believe the number of people on both sides of the issue who think they know, really know, Sara Palin.

You don&#039;t.  Not enough to say she&#039;s dumb, and not enough to say she&#039;s smart.  Unless one of you is Todd or something ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven't commented on this because I think it is boring and unknowable ... but reading it over I can't believe the number of people on both sides of the issue who think they know, really know, Sara Palin.</p>
<p>You don't.  Not enough to say she's dumb, and not enough to say she's smart.  Unless one of you is Todd or something ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDS, lol, they hate her more then Bush, unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDS, lol, they hate her more then Bush, unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Bill Kristol reported on Fox News Sunday that she was working on responses to questions about the ticket&#039;s policies on Africa.  In what such approach, she said something to the effect of &quot;Look, Africa is a country with a lot of problems, but . . .&quot;

If that&#039;s the true context, it strikes me as a mangled phrase in league with whether Israel is next door to Iran or there is more than one President on a dollar bill.

Was she ever asked about Africa in any debate?  Is that a more significant problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Bill Kristol reported on Fox News Sunday that she was working on responses to questions about the ticket's policies on Africa.  In what such approach, she said something to the effect of "Look, Africa is a country with a lot of problems, but . . ."</p>
<p>If that's the true context, it strikes me as a mangled phrase in league with whether Israel is next door to Iran or there is more than one President on a dollar bill.</p>
<p>Was she ever asked about Africa in any debate?  Is that a more significant problem?</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, true, and I did not mean to imply that you thought she was a a moron.  My apologies if that&#039;s how it came out.  Alas, the urge by many to call her a moron because of what was probably a mangled phrase (and we still don&#039;t know exactly what was said) when they wouldn&#039;t dream of doing the same to Senator Obama was all I was trying to highlight.  You just helped me do so.

As to Sarah Palin&#039;s interview problems, now that the campaign handlers are out of the picture she doesn&#039;t seem to be having the same problems at all with a great deal of exposure.  Coincidence? Sometimes too much information and too much control can make someone appear to be something they are not.

I guess I&#039;m not a conservative if that&#039;s what David Brooks is.  I think I am a classical liberal, but the word liberal now has a meaning 180 degrees out of phase with the old definition.  To whatever extent I like Sarah Palin it has to do with her being almost the complete opposite of what John McCain and Barrack Obama are in many respects.  I don&#039;t have to think that Sarah Palin was a great candidate to believe we would have been better off with her than with any of senators McCain, Obama or Biden, but YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, true, and I did not mean to imply that you thought she was a a moron.  My apologies if that's how it came out.  Alas, the urge by many to call her a moron because of what was probably a mangled phrase (and we still don't know exactly what was said) when they wouldn't dream of doing the same to Senator Obama was all I was trying to highlight.  You just helped me do so.</p>
<p>As to Sarah Palin's interview problems, now that the campaign handlers are out of the picture she doesn't seem to be having the same problems at all with a great deal of exposure.  Coincidence? Sometimes too much information and too much control can make someone appear to be something they are not.</p>
<p>I guess I'm not a conservative if that's what David Brooks is.  I think I am a classical liberal, but the word liberal now has a meaning 180 degrees out of phase with the old definition.  To whatever extent I like Sarah Palin it has to do with her being almost the complete opposite of what John McCain and Barrack Obama are in many respects.  I don't have to think that Sarah Palin was a great candidate to believe we would have been better off with her than with any of senators McCain, Obama or Biden, but YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: the English language... it&#039;s a bitch... we could &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; do better in using it. I had to read the original article 3 times before I knew for sure that the &quot;hoax&quot; was limited only to the leaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: the English language... it's a bitch... we could <em>all</em> do better in using it. I had to read the original article 3 times before I knew for sure that the "hoax" was limited only to the leaker.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tree stump.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
PP... indeed.

And what AK said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tree stump.</p></blockquote>
<p>PP... indeed.</p>
<p>And what AK said.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles,

I don&#039;t think that Sarah Palin is a moron.  I just think that she didn&#039;t have a very good knowledge base from which to launch a vice-presidential run.

Frankly, had her national debut come in 2016, when she&#039;d finished her term as governor, then spent some time in the Senate (where I&#039;ve no doubt she will end up), she would have acquitted herself well in these interviews.  As it stands, though, her interview performance went beyond a few verbal flubs and into downright incoherence.  She simply wasn&#039;t ready yet to play the game on a national level.  Not for lack of smarts, but merely a lack of preparedness.

However, as I have said here and elsewhere, I think that she has a pretty lousy record from a conservative point of view, and so I am baffled that conservatives seem to be so crazy about her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,</p>
<p>I don't think that Sarah Palin is a moron.  I just think that she didn't have a very good knowledge base from which to launch a vice-presidential run.</p>
<p>Frankly, had her national debut come in 2016, when she'd finished her term as governor, then spent some time in the Senate (where I've no doubt she will end up), she would have acquitted herself well in these interviews.  As it stands, though, her interview performance went beyond a few verbal flubs and into downright incoherence.  She simply wasn't ready yet to play the game on a national level.  Not for lack of smarts, but merely a lack of preparedness.</p>
<p>However, as I have said here and elsewhere, I think that she has a pretty lousy record from a conservative point of view, and so I am baffled that conservatives seem to be so crazy about her.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex observes:

&quot;In fairness to Obama, while there are 50 states, there were also 57 Democratic primaries. Easy slip of the tongue there, since he was almost certainly thinking of the primary race in terms of total number of contests.&quot;

The sort of &quot;top of mind&quot; error anyone could easily make, right?  Just sort of slipped out because of his mental focus at that particular moment.  I understand.

Speaking of &quot;top of mind&quot; errors....I&#039;m sure his reference to &quot;my Muslim faith&quot; in his interview with Georgie Stepho had absolutely nothing to do with what was &quot;top of mind.&quot;  Right? 







Relax, Pavlovians.........its a wisecrack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex observes:</p>
<p>"In fairness to Obama, while there are 50 states, there were also 57 Democratic primaries. Easy slip of the tongue there, since he was almost certainly thinking of the primary race in terms of total number of contests."</p>
<p>The sort of "top of mind" error anyone could easily make, right?  Just sort of slipped out because of his mental focus at that particular moment.  I understand.</p>
<p>Speaking of "top of mind" errors....I'm sure his reference to "my Muslim faith" in his interview with Georgie Stepho had absolutely nothing to do with what was "top of mind."  Right? </p>
<p>Relax, Pavlovians.........its a wisecrack.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly the point Alex. Senator Obama gets the benefit of the doubt while Governor Palin is a hopeless moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's exactly the point Alex. Senator Obama gets the benefit of the doubt while Governor Palin is a hopeless moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey, and my map only has 50 states. What&#039;s up with that?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In fairness to Obama, while there are 50 states, there were also 57 Democratic primaries.  Easy slip of the tongue there, since he was almost certainly thinking of the primary race in terms of total number of contests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hey, and my map only has 50 states. What's up with that?</p></blockquote>
<p>In fairness to Obama, while there are 50 states, there were also 57 Democratic primaries.  Easy slip of the tongue there, since he was almost certainly thinking of the primary race in terms of total number of contests.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, and my map only has 50 states.  What&#039;s up with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, and my map only has 50 states.  What's up with that?</p>
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