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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/palin_slams_bloggers_in_pajamas/comment-page-1/#comment-523392</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The posts are still pretty good, but the quality of comments at OTB has gone way down in the last year or so. Just an observation.&lt;/blockquote&gt; sorry, I can&#039;t afford to play DDO any more so I do this for fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The posts are still pretty good, but the quality of comments at OTB has gone way down in the last year or so. Just an observation.</p></blockquote>
<p> sorry, I can't afford to play DDO any more so I do this for fun.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/palin_slams_bloggers_in_pajamas/comment-page-1/#comment-523389</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I still don&#039;t understand how a Team of Mavericks could lose&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If only they had one more day to get the coal message out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I still don't understand how a Team of Mavericks could lose</p></blockquote>
<p>If only they had one more day to get the coal message out...</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Henley</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/palin_slams_bloggers_in_pajamas/comment-page-1/#comment-523367</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t understand how a Team of Mavericks could lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don't understand how a Team of Mavericks could lose.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/palin_slams_bloggers_in_pajamas/comment-page-1/#comment-523366</link>
		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes it is very hard to ever prove that nothing never happen. However for one to give any validity to an accusation the accusation should be back up with some facts... &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wayne, I am on record here (at OTB) as stating that I do not buy for a second that she did not know Africa is a cotinent. Still, the fact that she has to defend herself against these rather scurrilous comments is rather telling, is it not? 

To quote D.Larison at Eunomia:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Peter Suderman says that he doesn’t understand this Palin statement:

&lt;em&gt;Sitting here in these chairs that I’m going to be proposing but in working with these governors who again on the front lines are forced to and it’s our privileged obligation to find solutions to the challenges facing our own states every day being held accountable, not being just one of many just casting votes or voting present every once in a while, we don’t get away with that. We have to balance budgets and we’re dealing with multibillion dollar budgets and tens of thousands of employees in our organizations.&lt;/em&gt;

I have concluded that the problem that so many people have in understanding what Palin is saying is that we make the mistake of assuming that all of the words have some reason for being there. What we have to do instead is decrypt her message by filtering out all of the confusing chatter that keeps her statements encoded and difficult to follow. Let’s take the first sentence, and identify the essential elements in bold:

&lt;em&gt;Sitting here in these chairs that I’m going to be proposing but in working &lt;strong&gt;with these governors who &lt;/strong&gt;again &lt;strong&gt;on the front lines are forced to&lt;/strong&gt; and it’s our privileged obligation to &lt;strong&gt;find solutions to the challenges facing our own states every day&lt;/strong&gt; being held accountable, not being just one of many just casting votes or voting present every once in a while, we don’t get away with that.&lt;/em&gt;
See? If you just cut out about 60% of what she says, it hangs together nicely. By comparison, the second sentence is a piece of cake. Pretty much every word in the second sentence serves a function. Once reporters and voters acquire sufficient training in Palinonics, there should be no more misunderstandings.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
All clear now, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes it is very hard to ever prove that nothing never happen. However for one to give any validity to an accusation the accusation should be back up with some facts... </p></blockquote>
<p>Wayne, I am on record here (at OTB) as stating that I do not buy for a second that she did not know Africa is a cotinent. Still, the fact that she has to defend herself against these rather scurrilous comments is rather telling, is it not? </p>
<p>To quote D.Larison at Eunomia:</p>
<blockquote><p>Peter Suderman says that he doesn&rsquo;t understand this Palin statement:</p>
<p><em>Sitting here in these chairs that I&rsquo;m going to be proposing but in working with these governors who again on the front lines are forced to and it&rsquo;s our privileged obligation to find solutions to the challenges facing our own states every day being held accountable, not being just one of many just casting votes or voting present every once in a while, we don&rsquo;t get away with that. We have to balance budgets and we&rsquo;re dealing with multibillion dollar budgets and tens of thousands of employees in our organizations.</em></p>
<p>I have concluded that the problem that so many people have in understanding what Palin is saying is that we make the mistake of assuming that all of the words have some reason for being there. What we have to do instead is decrypt her message by filtering out all of the confusing chatter that keeps her statements encoded and difficult to follow. Let&rsquo;s take the first sentence, and identify the essential elements in bold:</p>
<p><em>Sitting here in these chairs that I&rsquo;m going to be proposing but in working <strong>with these governors who </strong>again <strong>on the front lines are forced to</strong> and it&rsquo;s our privileged obligation to <strong>find solutions to the challenges facing our own states every day</strong> being held accountable, not being just one of many just casting votes or voting present every once in a while, we don&rsquo;t get away with that.</em><br />
See? If you just cut out about 60% of what she says, it hangs together nicely. By comparison, the second sentence is a piece of cake. Pretty much every word in the second sentence serves a function. Once reporters and voters acquire sufficient training in Palinonics, there should be no more misunderstandings.</p></blockquote>
<p>All clear now, right?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Wayne, you are dismissed. 

Hope the GOP returns to some sort of reality soon. We need two healthy parties to really have good government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Wayne, you are dismissed. </p>
<p>Hope the GOP returns to some sort of reality soon. We need two healthy parties to really have good government.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom
Yes it is very hard to ever prove that nothing never happen. However for one to give any validity to an accusation the accusation should be back up with some facts. The fact that it was “hearsay” from a “suppose” McCain staffer who may be one of those who have a bone to pick with Palin, should have given any reasonable person pause. Now that the identification of said staffer has been proven false, the story hasn’t a leg to stand on. It is about like if I said Obama beats his wife. There is no proof of it but you can’t prove he didn’t. To continue saying Obama beats his wife or Palin said such and such just because you heard someone say so is asinine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom<br />
Yes it is very hard to ever prove that nothing never happen. However for one to give any validity to an accusation the accusation should be back up with some facts. The fact that it was “hearsay” from a “suppose” McCain staffer who may be one of those who have a bone to pick with Palin, should have given any reasonable person pause. Now that the identification of said staffer has been proven false, the story hasn&rsquo;t a leg to stand on. It is about like if I said Obama beats his wife. There is no proof of it but you can&rsquo;t prove he didn&rsquo;t. To continue saying Obama beats his wife or Palin said such and such just because you heard someone say so is asinine.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/palin_slams_bloggers_in_pajamas/comment-page-1/#comment-523344</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne,

You are still ducking the question. Are you excusing Palin lying with a moral equivalence defense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne,</p>
<p>You are still ducking the question. Are you excusing Palin lying with a moral equivalence defense?</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The posts are still pretty good, but the quality of comments at OTB has gone way down in the last year or so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LB: in some ways yes, but in others it is a lot more fun. As always, it is not what you say, but &lt;em&gt;how you say it&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The posts are still pretty good, but the quality of comments at OTB has gone way down in the last year or so.</p></blockquote>
<p>LB: in some ways yes, but in others it is a lot more fun. As always, it is not what you say, but <em>how you say it</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/palin_slams_bloggers_in_pajamas/comment-page-1/#comment-523319</link>
		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Deanna
Not only did you lie about what Palin said but the “Africa” comment has been proven a hoax.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No Wayne, the Africa comment has NOT been proven a hoax, just the attribution of who MADE it, is a hoax (to Martin Eisenstadt&#039;s great delight)(ME does not exist, and &quot;he&quot; said he was &lt;em&gt;the leak&lt;/em&gt;, nothing at all about whether she did or not)

The English Language is a bitch. Meanwhile, refer to Palin&#039;s own remarks in which she said that the Africa comment was &quot;taken out of context&quot;. (and I beleive her, &lt;em&gt;certainly&lt;/em&gt; she has a 5th grade understanding of geography)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Deanna<br />
Not only did you lie about what Palin said but the “Africa” comment has been proven a hoax.</p></blockquote>
<p>No Wayne, the Africa comment has NOT been proven a hoax, just the attribution of who MADE it, is a hoax (to Martin Eisenstadt's great delight)(ME does not exist, and "he" said he was <em>the leak</em>, nothing at all about whether she did or not)</p>
<p>The English Language is a bitch. Meanwhile, refer to Palin's own remarks in which she said that the Africa comment was "taken out of context". (and I beleive her, <em>certainly</em> she has a 5th grade understanding of geography)</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenceB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The posts are still pretty good, but the quality of comments at OTB has gone way down in the last year or so.  Just an observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The posts are still pretty good, but the quality of comments at OTB has gone way down in the last year or so.  Just an observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/palin_slams_bloggers_in_pajamas/comment-page-1/#comment-523270</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing Anjin, you haven’t shown outrage on Obama lying including promising to take public finance if his GOP opponent did. I also don’t expect you to hold Obama accountable for any lies he says once he is in office. Just another partisan hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing Anjin, you haven&rsquo;t shown outrage on Obama lying including promising to take public finance if his GOP opponent did. I also don&rsquo;t expect you to hold Obama accountable for any lies he says once he is in office. Just another partisan hack.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin
The Couric’s interview was a heavily edited hit piece. Couric was condescending and like many on the left holds Alaska in low regards. Glad to see that you can still mind read and it amazing how it seems to fit your agenda.  Excusing Deanna lying and misstatements by “trying”  to accuse others of lying is pretty lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin<br />
The Couric&rsquo;s interview was a heavily edited hit piece. Couric was condescending and like many on the left holds Alaska in low regards. Glad to see that you can still mind read and it amazing how it seems to fit your agenda.  Excusing Deanna lying and misstatements by “trying”  to accuse others of lying is pretty lame.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/palin_slams_bloggers_in_pajamas/comment-page-1/#comment-523258</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;is that it not that they Know so much&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The English Language. Use it or lose it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>is that it not that they Know so much</p></blockquote>
<p>The English Language. Use it or lose it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jsatterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jsatterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble with our Liberal friends is that it not that they Know so much, it&#039;s that they know so much about so little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with our Liberal friends is that it not that they Know so much, it's that they know so much about so little.</p>
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		<title>By: PrestoPundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>PrestoPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m under the impression that Andrew Sullivan blogs naked.</description>
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