Can you show us where the media (outside of complete bottom feeders) "attacked" Palin's daughter? Called her names, questioned her morals, so forth? I doubt it. They are reporting a story, that's what the media does.

As for individual Democrats, they can say whatever they please. I have yet to see anything that reached the "frothing at the mouth" threshold, which seems to exist in Bit's imagination.

As for attacking people's daughters, we still remember the slimy attack your candidate made on Chelsea Clinton. Not some moron on a blog. Your candidate.

Sorry Michael, I don’t remember every name of every quest on every show that I watch. I bet you don’t either.

Not usually, but if I'm going to use them as an example to shore up my argument, I certainly would.

I did give the night, name of the show and some details of the quest.

Right, to which anjin-san gave us more details:

That woman is a talk show host, not an official of the Democratic party or the Obama campain.

I would say that a talk show host who's name nobody can remember, is equivalent to someone "pulled off the street" and labeled a "Democratic consultant".

Sorry Michael, I don’t remember every name of every quest on every show that I watch. I bet you don’t either. I did give the night, name of the show and some details of the quest. I will remember to hold you to your standard in the future.

If you want me to defend Bit statement, then fine he was correct. Many of the poster if not Dems which many probably are, are certainly liberals and they have been attacking Palin’s daughter. Many of the MSM which are liberal and Democrats have been attacking Palin’s daughter. Party candidates and leadership from both sides tend to let others in their party do the dirtiest work. Do I hold Obama directly responsible for attacks on Palin’s daughter. No, not until I see evidence that he was directly involved. However to say the dems and liberal MSM haven’t been attacking Palin’s daughter situation is asinine. You can put blinders on if you want but the facts are the facts.

We have probably reached the time when Bit will cut and run to another thread...

At 100+ comments, it's probably time we all moved on.

Goes to show you two just make stuff up and read stuff that is not there.

Sorry Wayne, but you jumped into the conversation where we were asking for evidence that "the Democrats" and "Obama" were attacking Palin and her daughter. Your post, stating that you've seen "Democrats" doing just this, seemed like it was meant to be evidence of that proposition.

Just to add on, it is not like they were just two people they pulled off the street which claim that they were Dems consultants.

Oh? Who were they then?

Certainly, if one of Obama's daughters was involved, for example, I'd be told in no uncertain terms that family is off limits, even when using questins about vetting as an excuse to hammer the subject home. If families are off limits, why would it even be discussed in realtion to vetting, after all?

There is a difference between attacking the family, and questioning the vetting because of the revelation of a seemingly unknown family issue.

It's the difference between attacking somebody because they have an illness, and attacking them for not revealing their illness. If Biden had cancer, it shouldn't be used as an attack on him. If Biden knew he had cancer and Obama did not, then it's fair game as a vetting question.

ON tha basis, every damned one of them is foaming.

I think I see now where our disagreements begin.

Goes to show you two just make stuff up and read stuff that is not there. My original Statement that you both question was

It was in Bit's comment that you were defending.

Bit,
Since you don't like to follow links I will summarize for you.
6 polls listed by RCP have been conducted since the convention*:
Rasmussen tracking moved 6 pts in favor of Obama
Gallup moved 5 pts giving Obama an 8pt lead
Hotline/FD moved 5pts giving Obama a 9pt lead
CNN moved only 1 pt leaving it a dead heat
CBS News moved 5 pts giving Obama an 8 pt lead
It should be obvious to most what the trend is and which single poll is the aberration. 4 0f 6 polls moved out of the MOE to a clear Obama lead. This means little about the upcoming election, but says a lot about which orifice you were speaking from.

I also would be quite interested to see the specific posts you found to be frothing.

* Can you list the others since you claimed that dozens have been conducted in this time frame?

using questins about vetting as an excuse to hammer the subject home.

What a load of crap. McCain has put Palin in a position to be a 72 year old heartbeat away from the Presidency. He did not know her when he did it, and his campaign did not vet her adequately.

That is frigging scary.

And it says a hell of a lot about John McCain's judgment, none of it good.

Country first? Nice slogan, try practicing it.

If they are not officially with the Obama campaign then they are not Democrats. Give me a break.

Run along Wayne. No Obama officials or Democratic party officials are attacking Palin's family. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.

If families are off limits, why would it even be discussed in realtion to vetting, after all?

Well, Obama said families are off limits. And his campaign and Democratic officials have honored that. (whining aside, no one here has produced a single example to the contrary)

But the media, as everyone with a pulse knows, honors nothing except ratings. And anyone could have told you there would be a media frenzy over this issue, which is not a good thing politically. McCain went with his gut, and he is now 100& off message and both he and Paling are canceling speeches and interviews.

Goes to show you two just make stuff up and read stuff that is not there. My original Statement that you both question was

“There was a Democratic strategist on O’Reilly last night that said that the candidate’s children should be off limit then proceeded to attack Sara on her daughter pregnancy. Similar deal happened on hardball too. I think I saw it on CNN also”

Nowhere in there did I say “every single Democrat” have been attacking Palin.

“you don't even know if they were a registered Democrat or not, you just know that they were identified as a Democrat”

Nice logic. By that standard I don’t know that Pelosi and Obama are Democrats. I’ve never seen their registration. My information that they are Democrats is because they were identified by the media.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#polls