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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look BIt, I you think a potential first lady wearing 250K earrings while unemployment is up for the 8th straight month is a tasteful thing to do, well thats your view.

There is a vast difference between a nonsense discussion, like McCain&#039;s $500 dollar shoes, and an ensemble that costs more than a lot of hard working Americans make in 10 years.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And yet when others do it, it&#039;s a problem?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, you mean like when the right went ballistic about Edward&#039;s $400 haircut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look BIt, I you think a potential first lady wearing 250K earrings while unemployment is up for the 8th straight month is a tasteful thing to do, well thats your view.</p>
<p>There is a vast difference between a nonsense discussion, like McCain's $500 dollar shoes, and an ensemble that costs more than a lot of hard working Americans make in 10 years.</p>
<blockquote><p>And yet when others do it, it's a problem?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, you mean like when the right went ballistic about Edward's $400 haircut?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;By the way Bit, your &quot;guilt trip about wealth&quot; line is pretty lame. My professed love for sports cars and Armani makes it fairly clear that I have nothing against wealth and luxury (though I am a big fan of moderation), and I have my own career accomplishments that I take pride in&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And yet when &lt;em&gt;others&lt;/em&gt; do it, it&#039;s a problem?
Why do I get the impression you&#039;re simply looking for something to get offended about, and that you&#039;re willing to apply your usual double standard to get there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>By the way Bit, your "guilt trip about wealth" line is pretty lame. My professed love for sports cars and Armani makes it fairly clear that I have nothing against wealth and luxury (though I am a big fan of moderation), and I have my own career accomplishments that I take pride in</p></blockquote>
<p>And yet when <em>others</em> do it, it's a problem?<br />
Why do I get the impression you're simply looking for something to get offended about, and that you're willing to apply your usual double standard to get there?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I chuckled over JE&#039;s haircut too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It rated a chuckle.  The right blew a gasket over it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I chuckled over JE's haircut too.</p></blockquote>
<p>It rated a chuckle.  The right blew a gasket over it..</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;bird watching.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well that is something we agree on. We have 9 feeders and 5 water stations in the backyard, and my wife and her crew maintain about 250 boxes for cavity nesters in the area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>bird watching.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well that is something we agree on. We have 9 feeders and 5 water stations in the backyard, and my wife and her crew maintain about 250 boxes for cavity nesters in the area.</p>
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		<title>By: lunacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lunacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All my needling aside, I&#039;m not overly fond of overt displays of wealth. But I&#039;m just not fond of jewelry, fancy clothes, etc... I don&#039;t even have my ears pierced. And I&#039;m not a huge fan of Jackie O, either. Don&#039;t dislike her, just don&#039;t see what all the fuss was about. It really was my kaffeeklasch who brought that up. Ladies my age and older who relish looking at the wedding dresses in the newspapers and the celebrity rags at the latest frocks. It&#039;s our social agreement that I listen to them regarding fashion and they listen to me regarding gardening and bird watching.

But I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to say that the McCain&#039;s are any less concerned about those less fortunate. Cindy, has, after all, put her money where her mouth is. As do MANY ungodly wealthy people. But she also put her efforts where her mouth is. 

And, anjin, for what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;m a little sexist in that I don&#039;t like it when men are more vain or spend more attention and money to their appearance than women do. So, although, truly I&#039;m independent, I chuckled over JE&#039;s haircut too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All my needling aside, I'm not overly fond of overt displays of wealth. But I'm just not fond of jewelry, fancy clothes, etc... I don't even have my ears pierced. And I'm not a huge fan of Jackie O, either. Don't dislike her, just don't see what all the fuss was about. It really was my kaffeeklasch who brought that up. Ladies my age and older who relish looking at the wedding dresses in the newspapers and the celebrity rags at the latest frocks. It's our social agreement that I listen to them regarding fashion and they listen to me regarding gardening and bird watching.</p>
<p>But I don't think it's fair to say that the McCain's are any less concerned about those less fortunate. Cindy, has, after all, put her money where her mouth is. As do MANY ungodly wealthy people. But she also put her efforts where her mouth is. </p>
<p>And, anjin, for what it's worth, I'm a little sexist in that I don't like it when men are more vain or spend more attention and money to their appearance than women do. So, although, truly I'm independent, I chuckled over JE's haircut too.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So when your boss dies, anjin, are his children entitled to his inheritance?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course they are. I don&#039;t believe I questioned the legitimacy of inheritance, just that it represents any kind of accomplishment.

I am a bit old fashioned about some things, and am not particularly impressed by men who live large on their wives dime. This feeling applies to John Kerry as well as John McCain.

While we are on the subject of politicians lifestyles, it is a good time to point out that the right absolutely blew a gasket over John Edwards $400 haircut. A 300k ensemble kind of trumps that, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So when your boss dies, anjin, are his children entitled to his inheritance?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course they are. I don't believe I questioned the legitimacy of inheritance, just that it represents any kind of accomplishment.</p>
<p>I am a bit old fashioned about some things, and am not particularly impressed by men who live large on their wives dime. This feeling applies to John Kerry as well as John McCain.</p>
<p>While we are on the subject of politicians lifestyles, it is a good time to point out that the right absolutely blew a gasket over John Edwards $400 haircut. A 300k ensemble kind of trumps that, don't you think?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They likened her to Jackie O&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you lunacy. Its been a long week, and I needed a good laugh.

My sense of style? Paris is my favorite city, and I like to pick up mid-20th century gallery prints when I am there (or I did when the dollar was worth something). I like Armani shirts, Canelli suits and Zenella slacks. The Robert Talbott outlet in Carmel Valley is a great place to shop after a round of golf. I also have an affinity for Italian audio equipment. (Unico valve amps are smoking!)

I am afraid I don&#039;t have a kaffeeklatsch, but I do find that how people present themselves tells us a lot about them. Its interesting that you mention the Kennedys. On the campaign trail, JFK changed shirts 10 times a day. He always looked tight and put together, I think he was the first one to do that.

One of the interesting things about the Kennedy&#039;s, at least the JFK generation, is that despite great wealth, they seemed to have a genuine desire to try and understand the issues of poor, working class, and middle class folks. FDR was like that too. Both men had empathy, and an appreciation of how fortunate they were. I think Reagan was too, to some extent. He remembered where he was from.

A gratuitous display of wealth at the convention, with the whole country watching, with so many getting laid off, being foreclosed, struggling to pay for health care and education is in poor taste. If you are a Republican, I can see why you might want to sidestep the issue.

You can get beautiful clothes and jewelry with money. Style is more elusive, you can&#039;t always buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They likened her to Jackie O</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you lunacy. Its been a long week, and I needed a good laugh.</p>
<p>My sense of style? Paris is my favorite city, and I like to pick up mid-20th century gallery prints when I am there (or I did when the dollar was worth something). I like Armani shirts, Canelli suits and Zenella slacks. The Robert Talbott outlet in Carmel Valley is a great place to shop after a round of golf. I also have an affinity for Italian audio equipment. (Unico valve amps are smoking!)</p>
<p>I am afraid I don't have a kaffeeklatsch, but I do find that how people present themselves tells us a lot about them. Its interesting that you mention the Kennedys. On the campaign trail, JFK changed shirts 10 times a day. He always looked tight and put together, I think he was the first one to do that.</p>
<p>One of the interesting things about the Kennedy's, at least the JFK generation, is that despite great wealth, they seemed to have a genuine desire to try and understand the issues of poor, working class, and middle class folks. FDR was like that too. Both men had empathy, and an appreciation of how fortunate they were. I think Reagan was too, to some extent. He remembered where he was from.</p>
<p>A gratuitous display of wealth at the convention, with the whole country watching, with so many getting laid off, being foreclosed, struggling to pay for health care and education is in poor taste. If you are a Republican, I can see why you might want to sidestep the issue.</p>
<p>You can get beautiful clothes and jewelry with money. Style is more elusive, you can't always buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: lunacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lunacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when your boss dies, anjin, are his children entitled to his inheritance?

And if so, are they entitled to spend it on Armani, Givenchy or whomever?

More importantly, how do you feel about the fashion legacy of Jackie K. Onassis and Oleg Cassini and huge triple strand pearls with herme head scarfs?

I&#039;m a blue jean and t-shirt tomboy, myself. But I must tell you, because I know fashion means so much to you, all the fashion savvy women in my office think Cindy looked beautiful. Her blue outfit last night was unanimously perceived to be &quot;fabulous&quot;. They likened her to Jackie O.

They also loved Palin&#039;s gun-metal blouse, too.

I hadn&#039;t noticed but, the ladies in my kaffeeklatsch also observe that Michelle seems to be trying to channel Jackie O. Unsuccessfully, by their estimation.

But more than anything, they were glad to see the skirts and heals over the pantsuit.

Maybe you should ask your kaffeeklatsch how they feel about the current fashions among the political class, since this topic is so important to you.

Perhaps it will help you develop your own sense of style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when your boss dies, anjin, are his children entitled to his inheritance?</p>
<p>And if so, are they entitled to spend it on Armani, Givenchy or whomever?</p>
<p>More importantly, how do you feel about the fashion legacy of Jackie K. Onassis and Oleg Cassini and huge triple strand pearls with herme head scarfs?</p>
<p>I'm a blue jean and t-shirt tomboy, myself. But I must tell you, because I know fashion means so much to you, all the fashion savvy women in my office think Cindy looked beautiful. Her blue outfit last night was unanimously perceived to be "fabulous". They likened her to Jackie O.</p>
<p>They also loved Palin's gun-metal blouse, too.</p>
<p>I hadn't noticed but, the ladies in my kaffeeklatsch also observe that Michelle seems to be trying to channel Jackie O. Unsuccessfully, by their estimation.</p>
<p>But more than anything, they were glad to see the skirts and heals over the pantsuit.</p>
<p>Maybe you should ask your kaffeeklatsch how they feel about the current fashions among the political class, since this topic is so important to you.</p>
<p>Perhaps it will help you develop your own sense of style.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please pardon the garbled language, cat, phone and laptop interfaced over coffee in bed. Class and good taste....

By the way Bit, your &quot;guilt trip about wealth&quot; line is pretty lame. My professed love for sports cars and Armani makes it fairly clear that I have nothing against wealth and luxury (though I am a big fan of moderation), and I have my own career accomplishments that I take pride in.

My boss has 3 beautiful homes and a bitchin&#039; plane that he flies to them in. Good for him. He started from scratch and built a fantastic business. 

Tell me something, do you classify inheriting 100 million an &quot;accomplishment&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please pardon the garbled language, cat, phone and laptop interfaced over coffee in bed. Class and good taste....</p>
<p>By the way Bit, your "guilt trip about wealth" line is pretty lame. My professed love for sports cars and Armani makes it fairly clear that I have nothing against wealth and luxury (though I am a big fan of moderation), and I have my own career accomplishments that I take pride in.</p>
<p>My boss has 3 beautiful homes and a bitchin' plane that he flies to them in. Good for him. He started from scratch and built a fantastic business. </p>
<p>Tell me something, do you classify inheriting 100 million an "accomplishment"?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, Bit missed the point about class and good tasted and class. Now there is a shocker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, Bit missed the point about class and good tasted and class. Now there is a shocker.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a mother who thinks that the deployment of her 19 year old child to Iraq is such a good idea that she has bragged about it to every radical Muslim on the planet. She then told them when.

The reward and promise of eternal bliss has, most likely, already been announced.

Perhaps she doesn&#039;t realize that just the idea of a woman seeking power enrages our enemy, but anyone seeking to be Vice President should.

She has plenty of time to think about this and put her son and those around him more at risk.  When her boy arrives home in a body bag, maybe it will be another one of those up and down things that families go through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a mother who thinks that the deployment of her 19 year old child to Iraq is such a good idea that she has bragged about it to every radical Muslim on the planet. She then told them when.</p>
<p>The reward and promise of eternal bliss has, most likely, already been announced.</p>
<p>Perhaps she doesn't realize that just the idea of a woman seeking power enrages our enemy, but anyone seeking to be Vice President should.</p>
<p>She has plenty of time to think about this and put her son and those around him more at risk.  When her boy arrives home in a body bag, maybe it will be another one of those up and down things that families go through.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There is dressing well, and then there are gratuitous, tasteless displays of wealth. With so many American&#039;s struggling to save their homes and pay for health care and education, I would say a 300k ensemble is the latter.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Newton&#039;s law states that for every action there&#039;s an equal and opposite reaction. 

Bithead&#039;s correlary states that for every action, there&#039;s at least one power hungry yutz trying to make you feel guilty about it.

Why do liberals busy themselves with assocaiting guilt with wealth?  I figure it&#039;s mostly because guilt is one major power they know they can exert over others.

Personally, I refuse to feel guilty about my accomplishments and what I own as a result of them. Nor should Cindy McCain, or anyone else.
 Put another way, stuff your guilt trip. I&#039;m not buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is dressing well, and then there are gratuitous, tasteless displays of wealth. With so many American's struggling to save their homes and pay for health care and education, I would say a 300k ensemble is the latter.</p></blockquote>
<p>Newton's law states that for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. </p>
<p>Bithead's correlary states that for every action, there's at least one power hungry yutz trying to make you feel guilty about it.</p>
<p>Why do liberals busy themselves with assocaiting guilt with wealth?  I figure it's mostly because guilt is one major power they know they can exert over others.</p>
<p>Personally, I refuse to feel guilty about my accomplishments and what I own as a result of them. Nor should Cindy McCain, or anyone else.<br />
 Put another way, stuff your guilt trip. I'm not buying.</p>
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		<title>By: kenyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah&#039;s just plain hot. Much better looking that Barack. Plus the first-dude elect plays like a normal guy - 

This is America - the hot couple wins. 

The Obama dream machine just had their bubble burst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah's just plain hot. Much better looking that Barack. Plus the first-dude elect plays like a normal guy - </p>
<p>This is America - the hot couple wins. </p>
<p>The Obama dream machine just had their bubble burst.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obviously, anjin would rather redistribute Cindy&#039;s wealth so that all women in America can dress like Michelle Obama. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, its just that I prefer class to flash. But hey, you may be right. The McCain&#039;s are big celebrities, and they have to think about appearances for the paparazzi and such...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obviously, anjin would rather redistribute Cindy's wealth so that all women in America can dress like Michelle Obama. </p></blockquote>
<p>No, its just that I prefer class to flash. But hey, you may be right. The McCain's are big celebrities, and they have to think about appearances for the paparazzi and such...</p>
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		<title>By: lunacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lunacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry us girls (anjin and I) disturbed the discussion with our fashion comments ;)

Obviously, anjin would rather redistribute Cindy&#039;s wealth so that all women in America can dress like Michelle Obama. That&#039;s the only way Cindy can shed her guilt for being more fortunate than the rest of the ladies. 

Me...if she can afford it and it looks good, why shouldn&#039;t she wear it?

Shall we compare the cost of Obama&#039;s shoes and suits to John McCain&#039;s?

Or Cindy&#039;s charitable contributions to Michelle&#039;s?

I thought not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry us girls (anjin and I) disturbed the discussion with our fashion comments ;)</p>
<p>Obviously, anjin would rather redistribute Cindy's wealth so that all women in America can dress like Michelle Obama. That's the only way Cindy can shed her guilt for being more fortunate than the rest of the ladies. </p>
<p>Me...if she can afford it and it looks good, why shouldn't she wear it?</p>
<p>Shall we compare the cost of Obama's shoes and suits to John McCain's?</p>
<p>Or Cindy's charitable contributions to Michelle's?</p>
<p>I thought not.</p>
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