More nanny state behavior modifications that portray adults as abusers and potential felons.

Slippery slope doesn't seem to be just a category of fallacious debate.

No smoking laws, seat belt laws, child safety laws all start out with a good concept, and over time, devolved into puritanical obsession with removing the slightest iota of risk without regard to personal preference, personal responsibility, or individual freedom.

Welcome to social modification of Orwellian proportion. Progressives think they can handle making your life decisions better than you.

Your home is a lot safer than a subway. This woman must be a child hating feminist! I'll bet she believes in abortion too.

I am in good company with the men who wrote the following and meant what they said, stupid or not!....

""We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.""

I had morning kindergarten, and with 3 kindergarten boys I walked the 3 or 4 blocks to one's mother's house to be watched for the afternoon. No adult supervision. Just 4 kids doing what they were told to do and getting there.

At 8, I was home alone after school for a couple of hours until my parents returned from work. With chores to do, of course. And when I violated some non-related rule, that independence was taken away for a while - to the babysitter I went. Consequence learned - follow the rules, and you get independence.

I can somewhat understand the masses' concern about this woman's decisions, but they are her decisions to make. Child abuse claims are obnoxious, but true and real concern isn't. We live in a different world 30 years later than my little story. And our parents said the same thing and their parents before them. Likely our kids will too.

And as a parent, I'll have to figure out some way to give my kids proper independence while yet maintaining the illusion that mommy knows everything so quit trying to get away with naughtiness. My mom was the master of it; perhaps I can adapt.

Floyd, my mommy and daddy loved me very much. So much in fact that they realized I had the intellectual capacity to take care of myself on a 1 1/2 flight. I shudder to think what these kids nowadays are going to be like when they finally leave the bubble at 18 and have to take care of themselves. One thing's for sure, they ain't going to know how to read a subway schedule.

You are right , you have written some sort of proposition in quotes... Your's, not mine.

You said:
"What you describe is directly related to the abdication,even rejection, of fatherhood in our society.", in response to our conversation about the increased protectiveness of our society. I paraphrased you, but it was by no means a misrepresentation of your proposition.

Well, It could of course; and I'll keep it in mind, should I decide to say something stupid at some point in the future!

I'm beginning to suspect that you don't have conscious control over the stupidity of the things you say.

BTW, what is "self evident" in this "stupid" statement from a certain Preamble.....
""We hold these truths to be "SELF-EVIDENT", that all men are created equal,

It's not actually self-evident, Jefferson just claimed that those signing the declaration held them to be self-evident for the purpose of the document. Many British at the time criticised the rebels for the use of that proposition, because they did not simultaneously abolish slavery in the colonies.

Of course lincoln thought it was only a "proposition"......
""and dedicated to the "PROPOSITION" that all men are created equal.""

Lincoln was, of course, technically correct.

As for your last statement... If I were in the habit of saying stupid things, wouldn't it be "wise" to do just what you say can't be done? Well, It could of course; and I'll keep it in mind, should I decide to say something stupid at some point in the future![lol]
The obvious cost is my credibility in your eyes.
In this case, I can live with that!

It is after all, one of those kind of arguments that everyone knows both sides and no one's opinion is altered in the end.
The futility of it feeds my cynicism.[or vice-versa}

BTW, what is "self evident" in this "stupid" statement from a certain Preamble.....
""We hold these truths to be "SELF-EVIDENT", that all men are created equal,

Of course lincoln thought it was only a "proposition"......
""and dedicated to the "PROPOSITION" that all men are created equal.""

What I stated was self evident.

I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

Certainly, there is nothing in the proposition "The abdication and rejection of fatherhood creates an over-protective society" that provides evidence to itself. It doesn't even contain anecdotal evidence.

You can't just label every stupid thing you say "self evident" so that you don't have to defend it. Self-evidence actually means something.

Watch this space!!! Perhaps the wait will entertain you as well.[lol]

I'm beginning to think not, you're going more for the Andy Dick comedy it seems, where I was hoping for more of a Colbert.

Truly, we are all bubble boys now.

""Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I ran around like a wild child throughout my youth and it wasn't because a strong father figure was present.""
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Please...reread this and see if it makes sense to you.
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A metaphorical lamentation.......
A Rorschach test....my comments are just spilled ink imbued with meaning only by those who stare at them without comprehension, ahh... the frustration![lol]

Over-protective parents are attacking a New York mom who let her nine year-old son ride the subway alone. While nine might seem kind of young, whenever anything like this makes the news, I'm reminded of what I did when I......