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	<title>Comments on: Patriots: The Lamest Dynasty in Sports?</title>
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		<title>By: Jack Tanner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/patriots_the_lamest_dynasty_in_sports/comment-page-1/#comment-35772</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Bring back the Jimmy-Troy-Emmitt-Irvin-Deion-Jerry Cowboys.&#039;

The Pats would destroy them, they&#039;re all retired now. Likewise the 49ers and the Steelers. The Pats would destroy the od Packers. Bart Starr&#039;s got to about 65 now. Oh wait, that&#039;s not what he means? 

&#039;Weâll see what the Pats do in the coming seasons as their âteamâ members realize that rings donât finance the bling-bling unless they go elsewhere for a big contract.&#039;

Maybe they&#039;ll go play with Damien Woody in Detroit and Lawyer Milloy in Buffalo. Well, we&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'Bring back the Jimmy-Troy-Emmitt-Irvin-Deion-Jerry Cowboys.'</p>
<p>The Pats would destroy them, they're all retired now. Likewise the 49ers and the Steelers. The Pats would destroy the od Packers. Bart Starr's got to about 65 now. Oh wait, that's not what he means? </p>
<p>'Weâll see what the Pats do in the coming seasons as their âteamâ members realize that rings donât finance the bling-bling unless they go elsewhere for a big contract.'</p>
<p>Maybe they'll go play with Damien Woody in Detroit and Lawyer Milloy in Buffalo. Well, we'll see.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BigFire,

Corey Dillon left Cincinnati like any self-respecting player would have. NO one else was bidding, IIRC. We&#039;ll see how much of a pay cut he&#039;ll get when he&#039;s back on the market.

And the point still stands that the cowboys got where they were by draft choices and trades, not by signing the big free agents (with the exceptions of Charles Haley and Deion Sanders). It will take some time to see whether the Patriots have similar fall off. 

And no one has brought up that the Eagles are also a mini-dynasty, having made it to the NFC championship for three years and now the Super Bowl.

Clearly, the salary cap isn&#039;t hurting everyone equally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigFire,</p>
<p>Corey Dillon left Cincinnati like any self-respecting player would have. NO one else was bidding, IIRC. We'll see how much of a pay cut he'll get when he's back on the market.</p>
<p>And the point still stands that the cowboys got where they were by draft choices and trades, not by signing the big free agents (with the exceptions of Charles Haley and Deion Sanders). It will take some time to see whether the Patriots have similar fall off. </p>
<p>And no one has brought up that the Eagles are also a mini-dynasty, having made it to the NFC championship for three years and now the Super Bowl.</p>
<p>Clearly, the salary cap isn't hurting everyone equally.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan,

Certainly, Jones and Johnson drafted well.  But their dynasty started to fade with the cap, as role players and high priced backups had to be sacrificed to the cap.  Of course, Jones firing Johnson so he&#039;d get all the credit didn&#039;t help matters...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan,</p>
<p>Certainly, Jones and Johnson drafted well.  But their dynasty started to fade with the cap, as role players and high priced backups had to be sacrificed to the cap.  Of course, Jones firing Johnson so he'd get all the credit didn't help matters...</p>
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		<title>By: BigFire</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigFire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: bryan

Correy Dillon took a pay-cut to be with a winner.  He&#039;s got the ring to prove it.  Sometimes you must make personal sacrifice to win the championship.

Jerry Jones basically hit the Herschel Walker lottery when he suckered the Vikings into giving Cowboys so many draft pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: bryan</p>
<p>Correy Dillon took a pay-cut to be with a winner.  He's got the ring to prove it.  Sometimes you must make personal sacrifice to win the championship.</p>
<p>Jerry Jones basically hit the Herschel Walker lottery when he suckered the Vikings into giving Cowboys so many draft pick.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I&#039;m calling B.S. on the salary cap issue.

You have to consider where the Pats *were* when the salary cap came into being, and where they&#039;ve been since. They went out and signed Corey freakin&#039; Dillon in the off-season, and managed to keep Ty Law in the secondary and Tom Brady, etc.

Aikman-Irvin-Smith was the same deal. While we like to think Jones spent lots of money to get his team, he actually got most of them by shrewd bargaining and good drafting (Emmitt was what? 23rd in the draft). Jones &lt;em&gt;kept&lt;/em&gt; his team by signing them to big money contracts, but that was AFTER they had won the super bowls.

So that argument doesn&#039;t make it. We&#039;ll see what the Pats do in the coming seasons as their &quot;team&quot; members realize that rings don&#039;t finance the bling-bling unless they go elsewhere for a big contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I'm calling B.S. on the salary cap issue.</p>
<p>You have to consider where the Pats *were* when the salary cap came into being, and where they've been since. They went out and signed Corey freakin' Dillon in the off-season, and managed to keep Ty Law in the secondary and Tom Brady, etc.</p>
<p>Aikman-Irvin-Smith was the same deal. While we like to think Jones spent lots of money to get his team, he actually got most of them by shrewd bargaining and good drafting (Emmitt was what? 23rd in the draft). Jones <em>kept</em> his team by signing them to big money contracts, but that was AFTER they had won the super bowls.</p>
<p>So that argument doesn't make it. We'll see what the Pats do in the coming seasons as their "team" members realize that rings don't finance the bling-bling unless they go elsewhere for a big contract.</p>
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