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		<title>By: thor</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/peace_thugs_disrupt_job_fair/comment-page-1/#comment-41957</link>
		<dc:creator>thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 00:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The protest lasted for one hour, the job fair lasted for three. Every time the administration asked students to step away from the entrance, once they had entered, they did.

Protesters came, carried their message, the recruiters left, administrators tidied the process, and then the Santa Cruz Sentinel wrote an article about how disruptive protesters were, and interviewed five people opposed to the protest and no supporters. Liberal town? Liberal media? My ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The protest lasted for one hour, the job fair lasted for three. Every time the administration asked students to step away from the entrance, once they had entered, they did.</p>
<p>Protesters came, carried their message, the recruiters left, administrators tidied the process, and then the Santa Cruz Sentinel wrote an article about how disruptive protesters were, and interviewed five people opposed to the protest and no supporters. Liberal town? Liberal media? My ass.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/peace_thugs_disrupt_job_fair/comment-page-1/#comment-41907</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earth to Jethro...
Recount after recount, Gore lost.  Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earth to Jethro...<br />
Recount after recount, Gore lost.  Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: jethro</title>
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		<dc:creator>jethro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you boys feel about the GOP rent-a-mob that stopped Dade County vote counting back in 2000? Differently, I&#039;ll bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you boys feel about the GOP rent-a-mob that stopped Dade County vote counting back in 2000? Differently, I'll bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You call THAT a riot? Sorry, Sparky, but that dog won&#039;t hunt. 

Although, I can understand why you&#039;d want to use such hysterical, pejorative language to vilify and thus dehumanize those with whom you disagree. Makes debate a lot easier, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call THAT a riot? Sorry, Sparky, but that dog won't hunt. </p>
<p>Although, I can understand why you'd want to use such hysterical, pejorative language to vilify and thus dehumanize those with whom you disagree. Makes debate a lot easier, doesn't it?</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and I&#039;m not buying the gay &quot;issue.  This was nothing more than an anti-war, anti-military effort.  Period. Hence the desire to disrupt rather than make any viewpoint heard.

I have debated the question frequently whether being gay is a choice, or inborn.  I&#039;ll defer any stand on that argument for this:  The military is a career choice.  One not to be taken lightly by any individual. If a gay person (by choice or not) really wants to be in the military, then they also choose to keep their lifestyle in the closet.  Many, many heterosexual soldiers choose to forgo a family life to be in the military. What&#039;s the difference?  

I seem to remember that one beloved cigar smoking President came up with this policy.  Interesting that his faithful followers are NOW so adamantly against it. Or is this yet another noisy group looking for special treatment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...and I'm not buying the gay "issue.  This was nothing more than an anti-war, anti-military effort.  Period. Hence the desire to disrupt rather than make any viewpoint heard.</p>
<p>I have debated the question frequently whether being gay is a choice, or inborn.  I'll defer any stand on that argument for this:  The military is a career choice.  One not to be taken lightly by any individual. If a gay person (by choice or not) really wants to be in the military, then they also choose to keep their lifestyle in the closet.  Many, many heterosexual soldiers choose to forgo a family life to be in the military. What's the difference?  </p>
<p>I seem to remember that one beloved cigar smoking President came up with this policy.  Interesting that his faithful followers are NOW so adamantly against it. Or is this yet another noisy group looking for special treatment?</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Botton line: These idiots infringed on their fellow students&#039; right to attend a job fair, up to and including the possibility of a career in the military.  
If they learned to &quot;express&quot; themselves this way in school, then absolutely they should receive extra-curricular training with water cannons and tear gas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Botton line: These idiots infringed on their fellow students' right to attend a job fair, up to and including the possibility of a career in the military.<br />
If they learned to "express" themselves this way in school, then absolutely they should receive extra-curricular training with water cannons and tear gas.</p>
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		<title>By: AnjinSan</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnjinSan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does shouting &amp; &quot;banging on windows&quot; equate to rioting?  Maybe you guys can start a nice gulag for these &quot;thugs&quot;, or for anyone who actions disturb you for that matter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does shouting &#038; "banging on windows" equate to rioting?  Maybe you guys can start a nice gulag for these "thugs", or for anyone who actions disturb you for that matter...</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t need gays in the military... hell, we don&#039;t need anybody in this military! Let&#039;s abolish it and create a popular militia/real national guard force to defend the border. We could actually stop terrorists, and prevent the CIA from importing drugs.

Really... there are actually a lot of people on both the right and the left (real conservatives and real leftists, not Bush neo-cons and Clinton liberals) that agree on this one: the empire threatens the republic.

Let&#039;s stop spending all this money and sending our kids to die in other peoples&#039; countries. We should bring all the troops home and use them to defend America, not corporate interests abroad!

Those kids in Santa Cruz are great. They are setting a real example for America&#039;s youth.

Long live the REPUBLIC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don't need gays in the military... hell, we don't need anybody in this military! Let's abolish it and create a popular militia/real national guard force to defend the border. We could actually stop terrorists, and prevent the CIA from importing drugs.</p>
<p>Really... there are actually a lot of people on both the right and the left (real conservatives and real leftists, not Bush neo-cons and Clinton liberals) that agree on this one: the empire threatens the republic.</p>
<p>Let's stop spending all this money and sending our kids to die in other peoples' countries. We should bring all the troops home and use them to defend America, not corporate interests abroad!</p>
<p>Those kids in Santa Cruz are great. They are setting a real example for America's youth.</p>
<p>Long live the REPUBLIC!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 01:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an inane series of things to do.  First of all the military does discriminate: by age, weight, physical fitness, handicaps.  My feeling is that those protestors would have found a discrimination even without don&#039;t ask don&#039;t tell...&quot;why can&#039;t I become a Navy Seal just because I am woman...thats discrimination.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an inane series of things to do.  First of all the military does discriminate: by age, weight, physical fitness, handicaps.  My feeling is that those protestors would have found a discrimination even without don't ask don't tell..."why can't I become a Navy Seal just because I am woman...thats discrimination."</p>
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		<title>By: Clemen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IN RESPONSE TO LJD:

&quot;Airline pilots canât be drunk. Food service workers cannot have poor hygiene. Certain kinds of nurses canât have hepatitis.&quot;

So you equate homosexuality with intoxication, filth, and disease?

Just asking.

If any of you are 18-39, I highly suggest you enlist.  Thanks in advance for dying so my neighbor can drive his SUV to the mall.

George Bless America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IN RESPONSE TO LJD:</p>
<p>"Airline pilots canât be drunk. Food service workers cannot have poor hygiene. Certain kinds of nurses canât have hepatitis."</p>
<p>So you equate homosexuality with intoxication, filth, and disease?</p>
<p>Just asking.</p>
<p>If any of you are 18-39, I highly suggest you enlist.  Thanks in advance for dying so my neighbor can drive his SUV to the mall.</p>
<p>George Bless America!</p>
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		<title>By: omusicjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>omusicjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I feel bad for the stressful position of the recruiters, the military has no right to be on campus recruiting while they practice discriminatory hiring tactics. Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t Tell is purely an Anti-Gay/Homophobic policy. They fire their military members who have identified themselves as gay. There is no possible reason to keep such a policy intact except for ignorant and prejudice purposes. According to UCSC&#039;s own policies, no businesses that practice prejudice hiring policies are allowed on the UCSC campus. These protesters are heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I feel bad for the stressful position of the recruiters, the military has no right to be on campus recruiting while they practice discriminatory hiring tactics. Don't Ask Don't Tell is purely an Anti-Gay/Homophobic policy. They fire their military members who have identified themselves as gay. There is no possible reason to keep such a policy intact except for ignorant and prejudice purposes. According to UCSC's own policies, no businesses that practice prejudice hiring policies are allowed on the UCSC campus. These protesters are heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, at least it rhymes. These days that&#039;s almost worth a full professorship and tenure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, at least it rhymes. These days that's almost worth a full professorship and tenure.</p>
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		<title>By: Cricket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cricket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UC Santa Cruz has a problem in that the town itself
is stuck in 1964.  So the slogan was probably the
best they could do after free love near the Boardwalk.

They should have been carted off.  And do I hear
UC Santa Cruz&#039;s budget getting a nice chop?  And
tuition going up?  That&#039;s progress for you. 

&quot;Don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; is not discriminatory.
Not only that, there is a whole little sensitivity pamplet that the Army (and I am not sure about the other services) that explains the rights gay servicemembers have if they are either outed (the right to confront their accusers)or they out themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UC Santa Cruz has a problem in that the town itself<br />
is stuck in 1964.  So the slogan was probably the<br />
best they could do after free love near the Boardwalk.</p>
<p>They should have been carted off.  And do I hear<br />
UC Santa Cruz's budget getting a nice chop?  And<br />
tuition going up?  That's progress for you. </p>
<p>"Don't ask, don't tell" is not discriminatory.<br />
Not only that, there is a whole little sensitivity pamplet that the Army (and I am not sure about the other services) that explains the rights gay servicemembers have if they are either outed (the right to confront their accusers)or they out themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Racist, Sexist, Anti-Gay. Hey, recruiters, go away.&quot;

THIS is the product of a college education?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Racist, Sexist, Anti-Gay. Hey, recruiters, go away."</p>
<p>THIS is the product of a college education?</p>
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		<title>By: John Gillnitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Gillnitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! I gonna make a Peace Thug t-shirt for my next riot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! I gonna make a Peace Thug t-shirt for my next riot.</p>
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