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	<title>Comments on: Pentagon to Create US Africa Command (AFRICOM)</title>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/pentagon_to_create_us_africa_command_africom/comment-page-1/#comment-107537</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m having a bad day and must correct myself again. CFLCC is not technically under CENTCOM command although the vast majority of the units in CFLLCC are under operational of control of CENTCOM. US don’t have any control of some coalition units but is central in getting their cooperation.  The command structure was even confusing to many of the generals but I’m sure there are people who know everything out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&rsquo;m having a bad day and must correct myself again. CFLCC is not technically under CENTCOM command although the vast majority of the units in CFLLCC are under operational of control of CENTCOM. US don&rsquo;t have any control of some coalition units but is central in getting their cooperation.  The command structure was even confusing to many of the generals but I&rsquo;m sure there are people who know everything out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jem

You may want to do some research before you start being condescending to others. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFLCC

http://www.kuwait.army.mil/

Yes CFLCC is a generic military term but it is also specific command under CENTCOM. So if you would to say you were with CFLCC, it would be understood what unit you belong to. It actually says it on assignment orders. 

I think they should have used a different name but that is the way it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jem</p>
<p>You may want to do some research before you start being condescending to others.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFLCC" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFLCC</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.kuwait.army.mil/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kuwait.army.mil/</a></p>
<p>Yes CFLCC is a generic military term but it is also specific command under CENTCOM. So if you would to say you were with CFLCC, it would be understood what unit you belong to. It actually says it on assignment orders. </p>
<p>I think they should have used a different name but that is the way it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can often be amusing to watch folks who have heard the terms but don&#039;t know what they mean have these sorts of discussions.  A few notes:

1) CIA and DIA are very different organizations run in very different ways with very different budget authorities (different sections of US Code).  Combining them (I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath) would be a massive undertaking.  This is what DC Loser was alluding to...RSI/Kip seem to have missed it, and one should probably factor that into their analysis. 

2) CFLCC is a doctrinal term (an abbreviation for Combined Force Land Component Commander) that applies to any Combined Force, if that is how the command and control arrangements are set--doctrine allows for other arrangement, if they are deemed more appropriate (for example, you might have Army Forces, Naval Forces, Marine Forces, Air Forces, and Coalition Forces components instead).  In short, the &quot;C&quot; in CFLCC has nothing to do with CENTCOM.  

3) Interestingly, the concept of an Africa Command sometimes is used in training or exercises...since there has been no such command up to this point, it allowed the training/exercise managers to avoid the problem of having participants whine, &quot;but that&#039;s not how EUCOM/PACOM/CENTCOM does that&quot;.  I guess there will be some creative writing done to create a different fictional command for such purposes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can often be amusing to watch folks who have heard the terms but don't know what they mean have these sorts of discussions.  A few notes:</p>
<p>1) CIA and DIA are very different organizations run in very different ways with very different budget authorities (different sections of US Code).  Combining them (I wouldn't hold my breath) would be a massive undertaking.  This is what DC Loser was alluding to...RSI/Kip seem to have missed it, and one should probably factor that into their analysis. </p>
<p>2) CFLCC is a doctrinal term (an abbreviation for Combined Force Land Component Commander) that applies to any Combined Force, if that is how the command and control arrangements are set--doctrine allows for other arrangement, if they are deemed more appropriate (for example, you might have Army Forces, Naval Forces, Marine Forces, Air Forces, and Coalition Forces components instead).  In short, the "C" in CFLCC has nothing to do with CENTCOM.  </p>
<p>3) Interestingly, the concept of an Africa Command sometimes is used in training or exercises...since there has been no such command up to this point, it allowed the training/exercise managers to avoid the problem of having participants whine, "but that's not how EUCOM/PACOM/CENTCOM does that".  I guess there will be some creative writing done to create a different fictional command for such purposes...</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Bad,
I meant Third Army, CENTCOM and CFLCC all coexisting together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Bad,<br />
I meant Third Army, CENTCOM and CFLCC all coexisting together.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa
ASCC is broken down into major combatant commands.
http://www.army.mil/institution/organization/

There are joint commands up and down the command structure but that doesn’t take away that other commands coexist. CENTCOM and CFLCC which drop the J coexist.  I think it is about time we have an AFRICOM. 3rd SF group has been assign to Africa for quite a while now. Most people don’t realize that many of the terrorist groups are base in Africa. The chaos there is a prime breeding ground for terrorist recruitment. Since there is little government control in vast areas there, terrorist groups can basically roam free. If we don’t take care of some of the problems there with LIC then it will come back and haunt us later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa<br />
ASCC is broken down into major combatant commands.<br />
<a href="http://www.army.mil/institution/organization/" rel="nofollow">http://www.army.mil/institution/organization/</a></p>
<p>There are joint commands up and down the command structure but that doesn&rsquo;t take away that other commands coexist. CENTCOM and CFLCC which drop the J coexist.  I think it is about time we have an AFRICOM. 3rd SF group has been assign to Africa for quite a while now. Most people don&rsquo;t realize that many of the terrorist groups are base in Africa. The chaos there is a prime breeding ground for terrorist recruitment. Since there is little government control in vast areas there, terrorist groups can basically roam free. If we don&rsquo;t take care of some of the problems there with LIC then it will come back and haunt us later.</p>
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		<title>By: kip</title>
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		<dc:creator>kip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC, well,

I know that DIA is lobbying for the same operations officer law enforcement in the US as the CIA has and this is seen as a compromise for the movement of CIA to DoD, which runs DIA and NSA, not that those are civilians moving from CIA, traditionally controlled by Congress, to the military, traditionally controlled by the President and that is screwing up the funding(which is already screwed up because no one can figure out if the USAID covert CIA money sent to NGOs was done by the President through his appointee or Congress and the Inelligence Committee and sent to friends), which Congress always wants to control, but that doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s not okay for a civilian to get a job with DIA or DoD.

Ass far as the plastic surgery; they&#039;re all the same, except the first letters, which are one apart, not that they are always by each other and the same letters, but, maybe it has more to do with classified intelligence work which we shouldn&#039;t know about because it&#039;s not open source. 

As far as DIA vs. CIA there should really be no problem here among employees.  As we all know, they are all Americans and will get along beautifully, serving us, Americans, the President, Congress, and, indeed all of mankind; making a future that all humans, even the &#039;evil doers&#039; from other planets, all can see our reasons for existing in this glorious universe and our planet that is a blessing among all things in existence. 

DC.  I really don&#039;t think your a loser and neither should you.  Going around putting a label like that on yourself really does indicate a problem with your self actualization.  Rather than focusing on the negative, maybe one should try areas that one might find blessings because most losers do, should, I meant just have a better life for us, I mean yourself and us, I mean not in person or close or anything and it&#039;s not like your in DC and alot of people know how far away that is, not that&#039;s it&#039;s important for people to keep a distance, it&#039;s that, close interaction just is not good for us, I mean you, because you need to use to really actualize and it&#039;s not like you were not a loser until one got near at, like Christmas or something, but, it&#039;s not important except for the evil doers, so, I&#039;ll just  go away and your smart and nice and everything..................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC, well,</p>
<p>I know that DIA is lobbying for the same operations officer law enforcement in the US as the CIA has and this is seen as a compromise for the movement of CIA to DoD, which runs DIA and NSA, not that those are civilians moving from CIA, traditionally controlled by Congress, to the military, traditionally controlled by the President and that is screwing up the funding(which is already screwed up because no one can figure out if the USAID covert CIA money sent to NGOs was done by the President through his appointee or Congress and the Inelligence Committee and sent to friends), which Congress always wants to control, but that doesn't mean that it's not okay for a civilian to get a job with DIA or DoD.</p>
<p>Ass far as the plastic surgery; they're all the same, except the first letters, which are one apart, not that they are always by each other and the same letters, but, maybe it has more to do with classified intelligence work which we shouldn't know about because it's not open source. </p>
<p>As far as DIA vs. CIA there should really be no problem here among employees.  As we all know, they are all Americans and will get along beautifully, serving us, Americans, the President, Congress, and, indeed all of mankind; making a future that all humans, even the 'evil doers' from other planets, all can see our reasons for existing in this glorious universe and our planet that is a blessing among all things in existence. </p>
<p>DC.  I really don't think your a loser and neither should you.  Going around putting a label like that on yourself really does indicate a problem with your self actualization.  Rather than focusing on the negative, maybe one should try areas that one might find blessings because most losers do, should, I meant just have a better life for us, I mean yourself and us, I mean not in person or close or anything and it's not like your in DC and alot of people know how far away that is, not that's it's important for people to keep a distance, it's that, close interaction just is not good for us, I mean you, because you need to use to really actualize and it's not like you were not a loser until one got near at, like Christmas or something, but, it's not important except for the evil doers, so, I'll just  go away and your smart and nice and everything..................</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

Thanks.  Technically, it&#039;s a Unified Combatant Command, since it&#039;s (presumably) Joint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>Thanks.  Technically, it's a Unified Combatant Command, since it's (presumably) Joint.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFRICOM sets very much on the blackside of the house rightnow, thus it is very hard to judge the true intent of the ACOM.  FYI: There are no longer Major Commnands, the Army is now divided by Army Commands (ACOM), Army Service Component Commands (ASCC), and the Direct Reporting Units (DRU).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFRICOM sets very much on the blackside of the house rightnow, thus it is very hard to judge the true intent of the ACOM.  FYI: There are no longer Major Commnands, the Army is now divided by Army Commands (ACOM), Army Service Component Commands (ASCC), and the Direct Reporting Units (DRU).</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see my friend as back talking about CIA moving to DIA again, under another name.  Can you tell me the difference between NIP and MIP, since you want to talk CIA vs. DIA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see my friend as back talking about CIA moving to DIA again, under another name.  Can you tell me the difference between NIP and MIP, since you want to talk CIA vs. DIA?</p>
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		<title>By: Rsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and humanitarian aid?

Congress needs to control this funding.

USAID/CIA  covert funds to NGOs - other military humanitarian financing.  This works nicely with CIA moving to DOD/DIA and the need for Congress to control that funding at DOD/DIA also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and humanitarian aid?</p>
<p>Congress needs to control this funding.</p>
<p>USAID/CIA  covert funds to NGOs - other military humanitarian financing.  This works nicely with CIA moving to DOD/DIA and the need for Congress to control that funding at DOD/DIA also.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The United States will soon have a unique major command focused on Africa. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bush must be thinking: 

&quot;Why in the world are we developing a major command for ONE COUNTRY?

Maybe that&#039;s something they are discussing at the next Darfur Round meeting.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The United States will soon have a unique major command focused on Africa. </p></blockquote>
<p>Bush must be thinking: </p>
<p>"Why in the world are we developing a major command for ONE COUNTRY?</p>
<p>Maybe that's something they are discussing at the next Darfur Round meeting."</p>
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