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	<title>Comments on: PETA to Offer $1 Million for Lab-Grown Meat</title>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Basically, they haven&#039;t figured how to grow blood vessels in their lab meat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
and they haven&#039;t figured out how to grow connective tissues connecting the thin layers of muscle or how to intersperse lipids.  At this stage we could grow very thin layers or nets of muscle tissues but the taste would be off and the texture would be way off, though it would probably be more healthy.

The easiest way to get to lab grown meat would be to continue on our current track of engineering animals down to meat factories.  We have come a long way down that track already.  All that is really left is to engineer away mobility and the rest of the brain not associated with autonomic system functions and set them up with feeding and waste collection tubes.  Somehow I don&#039;t think this is what PETA is shooting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Basically, they haven't figured how to grow blood vessels in their lab meat.</p></blockquote>
<p>and they haven't figured out how to grow connective tissues connecting the thin layers of muscle or how to intersperse lipids.  At this stage we could grow very thin layers or nets of muscle tissues but the taste would be off and the texture would be way off, though it would probably be more healthy.</p>
<p>The easiest way to get to lab grown meat would be to continue on our current track of engineering animals down to meat factories.  We have come a long way down that track already.  All that is really left is to engineer away mobility and the rest of the brain not associated with autonomic system functions and set them up with feeding and waste collection tubes.  Somehow I don't think this is what PETA is shooting for.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roseanne Roseannadanna sez...&quot;OH! DENTition....nevermind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roseanne Roseannadanna sez..."OH! DENTition....nevermind!</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bithead, you lost me if you were referring tomy comment. I&#039;m not taking a position here on any methods of keeping, slaughtering or processing animals. Just noting that humans are genetically omnivores and eating meat is as natural as breathing, whereas PETA thinks eating meat is bad in and of itself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mmmmph. My misread, then. See, when you spoke of human detention, I thought you to be making a pass at jailhouse conditions vs conditions animals are held in. I was simply following the (mis-)perceived tangent. My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bithead, you lost me if you were referring tomy comment. I'm not taking a position here on any methods of keeping, slaughtering or processing animals. Just noting that humans are genetically omnivores and eating meat is as natural as breathing, whereas PETA thinks eating meat is bad in and of itself.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mmmmph. My misread, then. See, when you spoke of human detention, I thought you to be making a pass at jailhouse conditions vs conditions animals are held in. I was simply following the (mis-)perceived tangent. My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: teqjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>teqjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By and large I agree it could be a good thing - but marbleization? What makes you think more than one-percent by weight will be allowed to be fat? Has the recent research showing that some trans-fats are actually good for you gone to your head? Do you suppose the foodies will pay attention, any more than they did when passing more school-access regulations to off-the-menu items despite studies showing the major effect of such was deleterious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By and large I agree it could be a good thing - but marbleization? What makes you think more than one-percent by weight will be allowed to be fat? Has the recent research showing that some trans-fats are actually good for you gone to your head? Do you suppose the foodies will pay attention, any more than they did when passing more school-access regulations to off-the-menu items despite studies showing the major effect of such was deleterious?</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve made oatmeal sausage 40% grains that was delicious. Maybe that&#039;s worth 50 grand or so do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've made oatmeal sausage 40% grains that was delicious. Maybe that's worth 50 grand or so do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead, you lost me if you were referring tomy comment.  I&#039;m not taking a position here on any methods of keeping, slaughtering or processing animals.  Just noting that humans are genetically omnivores and eating meat is as natural as breathing, whereas PETA thinks eating meat is bad in and of itself.

How one obtains such tasty meat and at what price are separate issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead, you lost me if you were referring tomy comment.  I'm not taking a position here on any methods of keeping, slaughtering or processing animals.  Just noting that humans are genetically omnivores and eating meat is as natural as breathing, whereas PETA thinks eating meat is bad in and of itself.</p>
<p>How one obtains such tasty meat and at what price are separate issues.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um ... what about the lab serum that will be required for growing the cell cultures? That&#039;s usually called &quot;fetal bovine serum.&quot; Yep. Made from cow fetuses. Future veal. You can look it up.

Plus, once the &quot;product&quot; is ready for market, it will have to be tested on animals. Extensively. The FDA requires it.

Sorry, PETA. 

FAIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um ... what about the lab serum that will be required for growing the cell cultures? That's usually called "fetal bovine serum." Yep. Made from cow fetuses. Future veal. You can look it up.</p>
<p>Plus, once the "product" is ready for market, it will have to be tested on animals. Extensively. The FDA requires it.</p>
<p>Sorry, PETA. </p>
<p>FAIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, most of those in &#039;human detention&#039; as you call it, give animals a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, most of those in 'human detention' as you call it, give animals a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick review of human dentition quickly assuages any guilt PETA might want me to feel about eating animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick review of human dentition quickly assuages any guilt PETA might want me to feel about eating animals.</p>
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		<title>By: William d'Inger</title>
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		<dc:creator>William d'Inger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they picked something that actually exists. The problem is not growing meat cells in the lab on an industrial scale. The problem is that they can&#039;t (yet) grow an inch thick steak because they can only (currently) apply nutrients, and hense growth, to the surface of the tissue. Basically, they haven&#039;t figured how to grow blood vessels in their lab meat. At least that&#039;s what I understood from the last story I read on the subject. Unfortuntely, I can&#039;t find that source of information anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they picked something that actually exists. The problem is not growing meat cells in the lab on an industrial scale. The problem is that they can't (yet) grow an inch thick steak because they can only (currently) apply nutrients, and hense growth, to the surface of the tissue. Basically, they haven't figured how to grow blood vessels in their lab meat. At least that's what I understood from the last story I read on the subject. Unfortuntely, I can't find that source of information anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, can&#039;t be.
PETA members are made of tofu, aren&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, can't be.<br />
PETA members are made of tofu, aren't they?</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Made exclusively of PETA members??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Made exclusively of PETA members??</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t we just cut straight to Soylent Green right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don't we just cut straight to Soylent Green right now?</p>
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