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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.  How can I know that you indeed wrote the words on your &quot;blog&quot;?  Perhaps those photons randomly appeared on my computer screen, or, indeed, perhaps the whole thing is a coffee-induced hallucination.

For that matter, how do I know you are James Joyner?  I mean, I haven&#039;t actually &lt;i&gt;seen&lt;/i&gt; you in about a year.  And I never seen you blog, for that matter.

And, for that matter, what is the meaning of &quot;is&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  How can I know that you indeed wrote the words on your "blog"?  Perhaps those photons randomly appeared on my computer screen, or, indeed, perhaps the whole thing is a coffee-induced hallucination.</p>
<p>For that matter, how do I know you are James Joyner?  I mean, I haven't actually <i>seen</i> you in about a year.  And I never seen you blog, for that matter.</p>
<p>And, for that matter, what is the meaning of "is"?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All points worthy of at least one, if not several, journal articles. And perhaps an NSF grant with a reduction in service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All points worthy of at least one, if not several, journal articles. And perhaps an NSF grant with a reduction in service.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we do argue an awful lot about the finer points of killing babies, even though we know it&#039;s wrong.  There were a heck of a lot of civilians killed in Iraq during the war.  Some were undoubtedly babies - certainly very young children.  So clearly, not even the common folk believe that it&#039;s simply &quot;wrong&quot; - as you put it - to kill babies.  It is far more nuanced than that.  And believing in an un-nuanced world seems to lead to a lot of inherent contradictions.  That&#039;s why it was interesting to me, one of the non-PhD crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we do argue an awful lot about the finer points of killing babies, even though we know it's wrong.  There were a heck of a lot of civilians killed in Iraq during the war.  Some were undoubtedly babies - certainly very young children.  So clearly, not even the common folk believe that it's simply "wrong" - as you put it - to kill babies.  It is far more nuanced than that.  And believing in an un-nuanced world seems to lead to a lot of inherent contradictions.  That's why it was interesting to me, one of the non-PhD crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Sure.  I found the argument interesting but also absurd.  Such it is with many things academic.

And most distinguish between murder and accidental death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Sure.  I found the argument interesting but also absurd.  Such it is with many things academic.</p>
<p>And most distinguish between murder and accidental death.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re misinterpreting what&#039;s being written. The baby torture example was chosen because it is &lt;i&gt;obviously&lt;/i&gt; wrong. The post that Brian talked about denied that naturalism could be a foundation for ethics, not that there is no such thing as right and wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're misinterpreting what's being written. The baby torture example was chosen because it is <i>obviously</i> wrong. The post that Brian talked about denied that naturalism could be a foundation for ethics, not that there is no such thing as right and wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;anonymous,&quot;

Ethics and whether there is such a thing as right and wrong are the same here. Brian used the example because he thought it obvious, but many of the commenters deny that it is obvious because there is no a priori right or wrong in nature.





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"anonymous,"</p>
<p>Ethics and whether there is such a thing as right and wrong are the same here. Brian used the example because he thought it obvious, but many of the commenters deny that it is obvious because there is no a priori right or wrong in nature.</p>
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