Comments on: Plame and the Nature of CIA Covers

By: Right Wing News

Right Wing News — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:19:55 +0000

Daily News For July 18, 2005

(*** For the first time, I've decided to move the daily in the right column over to the center of...

By: RiverRat

RiverRat — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:58:43 +0000

It appears that the only value of covert status for Plame as an energy consultant with Brewster-Jennings was to make Democratic political contributions without disclosing that she worded for CIA in Langley since 1997

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:47:33 +0000

Ragnar: The Johnson column really doesn't say much of anything. That Plame had not worked overseas for several years at the point of the Novak column and that she was working AT CIA HEADQUARTERS IN A DESK JOB is undisputed.

By: Lt bell

Lt bell — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:59:31 +0000

The absurdity is astounding -
let met see - Joyner - are you sa=ying that its OK to out an American that is working undercover-
because some Lawyer of a christian plays words with the semantics of the BS?????????????????

Never mind the reality -- well this is how Bush got elected is it not-

You people are not only un-american you are anti-american

By: Ragnar

Ragnar — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:21:02 +0000

In particular, there are now few, if any, limits to what conservative politicians can get away with: The faithful will follow the twists and turns of the party line with a loyalty that would have pleased the Comintern.
Paul Krugman

By: Ragnar

Ragnar — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:14:10 +0000

A Secret Known, A Cover Blown, http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5509192.html, written by former CIA Agent Larry C. Johnson characterizes both Ms. WIlson's status and the effect that this matter has had on the entire "security community." It is an embarassment that you continue to parse words and find reasons to defend what is indefenseable. Are you so partisian that you cannot see error when it occurs? What Rove and Novak did are an embarassment to all mainstream, USA loving Americans.

By: Jack Ehrlich

Jack Ehrlich — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:21:57 +0000

Did Joe Wilson think no one would look in to who sent him to Niger when he lied that the Vice President sent him? Wilson lied about who sent him, he lied about what he found (or did he even look) and he lied when he said it was not his wife who recommended him. I want to know what she was doing recommending someone who was opposed to finding the truth or incapable of telling it. Trying to blame Carl Rove is a typical Democrat trick. It will not work.

By: scrapiron

scrapiron — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:18:44 +0000

Plame has worked at CIA Hq. for years. She came and went out the main gate in a POV. I'll make you a bet that every country that has spies in the U.S. has pictures of her along with every other employee. Like the retired CIA supervisor stated, you can come in from the field and work in Hq., but you can't leave Hq. and work in the field. She has not been 'undercover' since she married a man who thrives on seeing his face in the news and bragged about his wife working for the CIA. I know there's some common sense left in this country but it's getting harder and harder to find it. Funny how fast people forget (most by choice) about Leaky Leahy, Socks Berger, Kerry, Kennedy, Dodd, Levin, Durbin, Rockefeller, Wyden and Dusty Reid. They all leaked documents that actually caused harm and could (and some has) result in the death of American Soldiers.

By: Just Me

Just Me — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:00:31 +0000

The story seems to ignore that in Wilson's book he mentions that neither he or his wife had been stationed overseas since 1997.

The law states that a covert agent is:

(4) The term âcovert agentâ meansâ
(A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agencyâ

(i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified information, and

(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States; or

(B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information, andâ

(i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency, or

(ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; or

Doesn't matter what he told Wolf, from his own book he seems to indicate she was not a covert agent within the time frame to meet the requirements of the law.

By: Media Lies

Media Lies — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:10:32 +0000

Was Valerie Plame really a covert CIA operative?

The question of whether or not anyone committed a crime in the Wilson-Plame affair hinges on whether or not she was. Fitzgerald must think so, else why convene a grand jury. What's curious is that lawyers representing 36 media organizations ar...

By: Sister Toldjah

Sister Toldjah — Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:27:49 +0000

Plamegate: a retrospective

“[T]he source in this case has waived confidentiality in writing.” Who is Judith Miller trying to protect? Herself? Or Joe Wilson?

By: John Cunningham

John Cunningham — Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:03:57 +0000

Byron York has an excellent article in National Review online about all the things that are NOT currently known about the Wilson/Plame/Rove affair. One question which I have--even if "Valerie Plame" had her name blown, why could she not lay low for a year or two, dye her hair, get a new passport as Jane Johnson, marketing executive for Widgets, Inc., and go abroad? of course, her decision to put her face into the magazines may have cut off that option.