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	<title>Comments on: Plame vs. Wilson</title>
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		<title>By: vnjagvet</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/plame_vs_wilson/comment-page-1/#comment-111109</link>
		<dc:creator>vnjagvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Fleischer &quot;remembered&quot; the name Libby gave her as either &quot;Plame&quot; or &quot;Plamay&quot; may be significant.

It seems unlikely that Libby would have orally passed on the name as &quot;Plamay&quot;.

Perhaps his &quot;recollection&quot; was wrong.  Yathink?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Fleischer "remembered" the name Libby gave her as either "Plame" or "Plamay" may be significant.</p>
<p>It seems unlikely that Libby would have orally passed on the name as "Plamay".</p>
<p>Perhaps his "recollection" was wrong.  Yathink?</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/plame_vs_wilson/comment-page-1/#comment-111097</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably the U.S. is leading with its weaker witnesses &amp; building up, a common tho debatable tactic ... I wonder who the closer will be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably the U.S. is leading with its weaker witnesses &amp; building up, a common tho debatable tactic ... I wonder who the closer will be?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson,

True.  None of the witnesses before Fleishcher have given any indication that the issue of &quot;the wife&quot; was a big deal to Libby and Cheney.  What they were interested in combatting was the idea that OVP had sent Joe Wilson and that they were intentionally covering up his report to sell a vision they knew was untrue. All indications thus far are that they found about about Wilson&#039;s trip from media accounts and were thus scrambling for damage control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson,</p>
<p>True.  None of the witnesses before Fleishcher have given any indication that the issue of "the wife" was a big deal to Libby and Cheney.  What they were interested in combatting was the idea that OVP had sent Joe Wilson and that they were intentionally covering up his report to sell a vision they knew was untrue. All indications thus far are that they found about about Wilson's trip from media accounts and were thus scrambling for damage control.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed that Drum may be off on the Novak thing, but if Libby was telling Fleischer how hush-hush Plame&#039;s ID was, and *if* Fleischer&#039;s &quot;memory&quot; is accurate, then that&#039;s significant to the case, tho not to the Novak issue.

It&#039;s easy to get tripped up.  This case is *not* about Novak&#039;s outing of Plame.  It&#039;s about what Libby knew, when he knew it, &amp; whether he can make a jury think he forgot it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that Drum may be off on the Novak thing, but if Libby was telling Fleischer how hush-hush Plame's ID was, and *if* Fleischer's "memory" is accurate, then that's significant to the case, tho not to the Novak issue.</p>
<p>It's easy to get tripped up.  This case is *not* about Novak's outing of Plame.  It's about what Libby knew, when he knew it, &amp; whether he can make a jury think he forgot it.</p>
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		<title>By: clarice</title>
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		<dc:creator>clarice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On cross he said he wasn&#039;t sure.
On the other hand there was a Bloomberg report sometime ago that WH logs showed Novak called Fleischer just before the Libby luncheon meeting and since this was all so unmemeorable that crack reporters Gregory and Dickerson do not seem to have recalled Fleischer telling them either, perhaps when he finally testified about this months  later (after having received an immunity grant) he confused what Novak told him and what Libby did.(Fleischer never confirmed the call and we only know it was logged in, not whether Fleischer took it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On cross he said he wasn't sure.<br />
On the other hand there was a Bloomberg report sometime ago that WH logs showed Novak called Fleischer just before the Libby luncheon meeting and since this was all so unmemeorable that crack reporters Gregory and Dickerson do not seem to have recalled Fleischer telling them either, perhaps when he finally testified about this months  later (after having received an immunity grant) he confused what Novak told him and what Libby did.(Fleischer never confirmed the call and we only know it was logged in, not whether Fleischer took it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Don Surber</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/plame_vs_wilson/comment-page-1/#comment-111083</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Surber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Three quick hits...&lt;/strong&gt;

1. James Joyner pointed out what was wrong with Ari Fleischer&#8217;s testimony in the Scooter Libby trial: &#8220;First, we already know that Richard Armitage was Bob Novak&#8217;s source, not Scooter Libby.&#8221;

That is what is wrong with the .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Three quick hits...</strong></p>
<p>1. James Joyner pointed out what was wrong with Ari Fleischer&#8217;s testimony in the Scooter Libby trial: &#8220;First, we already know that Richard Armitage was Bob Novak&#8217;s source, not Scooter Libby.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is what is wrong with the .....</p>
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		<title>By: The Hindsight Factor &#124; We Hold These Truths to be Self-Evident</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hindsight Factor &#124; We Hold These Truths to be Self-Evident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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