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		<title>By: Making Light</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/plight_of_the_religious_left/comment-page-1/#comment-112988</link>
		<dc:creator>Making Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 6...&lt;/strong&gt;

Atrios highlights this bit from &quot;religious left&quot; spokesperson (and former Kerry campaign &quot;director of religious outreach&quot;) Mara Vanderslice: I&#039;ve never......</description>
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<p>Atrios highlights this bit from "religious left" spokesperson (and former Kerry campaign "director of religious outreach") Mara Vanderslice: I've never......</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As DavidL said earlier today:


&lt;blockquote&gt;Earth to Edwards, when a blogger makes reference to Jeebus over a  hundred times, their intent is to malign.   Anybody who fails to either recognize or admit Marcotte’s malicious intent, is either too stupid or too dishonest to be president.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As DavidL said earlier today:</p>
<blockquote><p>Earth to Edwards, when a blogger makes reference to Jeebus over a  hundred times, their intent is to malign.   Anybody who fails to either recognize or admit Marcotte&rsquo;s malicious intent, is either too stupid or too dishonest to be president.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rightwing hypocrisy 101, for Bithead.

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/09/donohue-bush/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Think Progress&lt;/a&gt;:

During the 2004 presidential campaign, George Bush’s Catholic outreach coordinator, 54-year-old Deal Hudson, was outed as a sexual predator for taking advantage of a drunken 18-year old while he was a professor. The National Catholic Reporter reported:

&lt;blockquote&gt;According to documents obtained by NCR, Hudson invited a vulnerable freshman undergraduate, Cara Poppas, to join a group of older students for a pre-Lenten “Fat Tuesday” night of partying at a Greenwich Village bar. The night concluded after midnight in Hudson’s Fordham office, where he and the drunken 18-year-old exchanged sexual favors. The fallout would force his resignation from a tenured position at the Jesuit school, cost him $30,000, and derail a promising academic career.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Following the report, Hudson resigned from the Bush campaign, withdrew as a White House adviser, and was forced to step down as publisher of Crisis magazine, a D.C.-based conservative Catholic monthly. 

Yet at least one prominent right-wing figure came to Hudson’s defense: the Catholic League’s Bill Donohue, who has spent the last several days calling for the heads of two John Edwards bloggers. Donohue ardently defended Hudson in a statement, even invoking the Virgin Mary in downplaying his sexual assault:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In a press release, Bill Donahue, president of the Catholic League, minimized the charges against Hudson and &lt;b&gt;attempted a joke at the Virgin Mary’s expense.&lt;/b&gt; “Effective today,” Donohue wrote, his organization had “a new requirement for all future employees: all candidates must show proof of being immaculately conceived, that is, they must demonstrate that they were conceived without sin.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;
The American Spectator reported later, “Responding to complaints, the Catholic League has removed the press release from its website.”

Regards, C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightwing hypocrisy 101, for Bithead.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/09/donohue-bush/" rel="nofollow">Think Progress</a>:</p>
<p>During the 2004 presidential campaign, George Bush&rsquo;s Catholic outreach coordinator, 54-year-old Deal Hudson, was outed as a sexual predator for taking advantage of a drunken 18-year old while he was a professor. The National Catholic Reporter reported:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to documents obtained by NCR, Hudson invited a vulnerable freshman undergraduate, Cara Poppas, to join a group of older students for a pre-Lenten “Fat Tuesday” night of partying at a Greenwich Village bar. The night concluded after midnight in Hudson&rsquo;s Fordham office, where he and the drunken 18-year-old exchanged sexual favors. The fallout would force his resignation from a tenured position at the Jesuit school, cost him $30,000, and derail a promising academic career.</p></blockquote>
<p>Following the report, Hudson resigned from the Bush campaign, withdrew as a White House adviser, and was forced to step down as publisher of Crisis magazine, a D.C.-based conservative Catholic monthly. </p>
<p>Yet at least one prominent right-wing figure came to Hudson&rsquo;s defense: the Catholic League&rsquo;s Bill Donohue, who has spent the last several days calling for the heads of two John Edwards bloggers. Donohue ardently defended Hudson in a statement, even invoking the Virgin Mary in downplaying his sexual assault:</p>
<blockquote><p>In a press release, Bill Donahue, president of the Catholic League, minimized the charges against Hudson and <b>attempted a joke at the Virgin Mary&rsquo;s expense.</b> “Effective today,” Donohue wrote, his organization had “a new requirement for all future employees: all candidates must show proof of being immaculately conceived, that is, they must demonstrate that they were conceived without sin.” </p></blockquote>
<p>The American Spectator reported later, “Responding to complaints, the Catholic League has removed the press release from its website.”</p>
<p>Regards, C</p>
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		<title>By: Blog @ Morewhat.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog @ Morewhat.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Plight of the Religious Left [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. Irony abounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Irony abounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, make that &quot;hate the sin&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, make that "hate the sin".</p>
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		<title>By: Ugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;given what leftism has become these last 30 or so years, as regards religion in general, and the Judeo-Christian ethic in particular. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

yes, as opposed to the right, which has pushed the whole &quot;love the sin, not the sinner, turn the other cheek, do onto others&quot; etc. etc. etc. non-stop the last 30 or so years.  Not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>given what leftism has become these last 30 or so years, as regards religion in general, and the Judeo-Christian ethic in particular. </p></blockquote>
<p>yes, as opposed to the right, which has pushed the whole "love the sin, not the sinner, turn the other cheek, do onto others" etc. etc. etc. non-stop the last 30 or so years.  Not.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine someone on the right, sounding as those two did. Does anyone seriously consider that the left wouldn&#039;t be screaming bloody murder?

And look, Amanda Marcotte and Melissa McEwen are right in line with what constitutes the Democratic party today.  I’ll say this again; their anti religious attitudes, their bigotry, are center line for the Democratic party today.  Which is precisely why they have jobs with Edwards, again... and why I&#039;ve been wondering about the phrase &quot;Religious left &quot;, wondering how their can be such a thing, given what leftism has become these last 30 or so years, as regards religion in general, and the Judeo-Christian ethic in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine someone on the right, sounding as those two did. Does anyone seriously consider that the left wouldn't be screaming bloody murder?</p>
<p>And look, Amanda Marcotte and Melissa McEwen are right in line with what constitutes the Democratic party today.  I&rsquo;ll say this again; their anti religious attitudes, their bigotry, are center line for the Democratic party today.  Which is precisely why they have jobs with Edwards, again... and why I've been wondering about the phrase "Religious left ", wondering how their can be such a thing, given what leftism has become these last 30 or so years, as regards religion in general, and the Judeo-Christian ethic in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: John Norris Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Norris Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s always a mass audience for outrage, real or generated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's always a mass audience for outrage, real or generated.</p>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent G. Budge,

It would appear, from their lionization of Donahue, that &quot;Playing to the cheap seats&quot; with anti-semitic and anti-gay bigotry has plenty of room at the Catholic League and among far-right bloggers.

Regards, C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent G. Budge,</p>
<p>It would appear, from their lionization of Donahue, that "Playing to the cheap seats" with anti-semitic and anti-gay bigotry has plenty of room at the Catholic League and among far-right bloggers.</p>
<p>Regards, C</p>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James,

&lt;i&gt;“You imagine a similar kind of comment directed at the Jewish community or at the gay community – something at this level of intentional offensiveness — and I have a hard time believing it gets resolved in the same way,” he said.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh yeah, it&#039;s resolved at an entirely different level. The uber-right acclaims the speaker as their spokesperson on whether two bloggers are anti-Catholic.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. It&#039;s not a secret, okay? And I&#039;m not afraid to say it. ... Hollywood likes anal sex. They like to see the public square without nativity scenes. I like families. I like children. They like abortions. I believe in traditional values and restraint. They believe in libertinism. We have nothing in common. But you know what? The culture war has been ongoing for a long time. Their side has lost. [Bill Donahue on MSNBC, Scarborough Country, 12/8/04]&lt;/blockquote&gt;and
&lt;blockquote&gt;This same guy [Dean Hamer] came up with this idea of the gay gene. I remember when that conversation was going on. Gays were all of a sudden worrying if people would start aborting kids when they found out the DNA suggested the kid might be gay or God forbid, we&#039;d run out of little gay kids, so all of a sudden, they became pro-life. [Bill Donahue on MSNBC, Scarborough Country, 12/14/04]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Regards, C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James,</p>
<p><i>“You imagine a similar kind of comment directed at the Jewish community or at the gay community – something at this level of intentional offensiveness — and I have a hard time believing it gets resolved in the same way,” he said.</i></p>
<p>Oh yeah, it's resolved at an entirely different level. The uber-right acclaims the speaker as their spokesperson on whether two bloggers are anti-Catholic.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. It's not a secret, okay? And I'm not afraid to say it. ... Hollywood likes anal sex. They like to see the public square without nativity scenes. I like families. I like children. They like abortions. I believe in traditional values and restraint. They believe in libertinism. We have nothing in common. But you know what? The culture war has been ongoing for a long time. Their side has lost. [Bill Donahue on MSNBC, Scarborough Country, 12/8/04]</p></blockquote>
<p>and</p>
<blockquote><p>This same guy [Dean Hamer] came up with this idea of the gay gene. I remember when that conversation was going on. Gays were all of a sudden worrying if people would start aborting kids when they found out the DNA suggested the kid might be gay or God forbid, we'd run out of little gay kids, so all of a sudden, they became pro-life. [Bill Donahue on MSNBC, Scarborough Country, 12/14/04]</p></blockquote>
<p>Regards, C</p>
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		<title>By: Kent G. Budge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent G. Budge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Playing to the cheap seats with anti-Catholic bigotry has no place in the Democratic Party.”

On the evidence, this is not so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Playing to the cheap seats with anti-Catholic bigotry has no place in the Democratic Party.”</p>
<p>On the evidence, this is not so.</p>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Catholics slam bloggers hired by Edwards...&lt;/strong&gt;

Two bloggers hired recently by Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards were criticized Tuesda...</description>
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		<title>By: Making Light</title>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;nobody else has a conscience, or a detectable soul? Amazing how much unearned snottiness, to say nothing of bad theology, can be encapsulated in just a couple of definite articles.   I’d like to take all these hustlers, Jim Wallis, Mara Vanderslice, Brian O’Dwyer, and the rest of them, roll them up in a paper bag, and toss them into a room with nothing to read except the archives of Slacktivist. There’s what actual religious seriousness looks like. Meanwhile, speaking as a religious person, I&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->nobody else has a conscience, or a detectable soul? Amazing how much unearned snottiness, to say nothing of bad theology, can be encapsulated in just a couple of definite articles.   I&rsquo;d like to take all these hustlers, Jim Wallis, Mara Vanderslice, Brian O&rsquo;Dwyer, and the rest of them, roll them up in a paper bag, and toss them into a room with nothing to read except the archives of Slacktivist. There&rsquo;s what actual religious seriousness looks like. Meanwhile, speaking as a religious person, I<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;    Unclaimed Territory» The significance of the Edwards story  Dean&#039;s World» Get Feith  BuzzMachine» Are campaigns and conversation incompatible?  Outside the Beltway» Plight of the Religious Left  QandO» Venezuela: Socialism and chicken feet  Photomatt» bbPress Desmond  Homeland Stupidity» Congress: We’re bored, can we go home now?  Cox Forkum» Who Goes There  Binary Bonsai» Ralph McQuarrie Art Book Coming&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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