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	<title>Comments on: Politicians Lying is Free Speech</title>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/politicians_lying_is_free_speech_/comment-page-1/#comment-178062</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Show me anywhere in the constitution of its amendments that gives a right to broadcast your speech. Seriously, cause there are plenty of things I&#039;d love to be able to force the networks to broadcast...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Me too here be a few, i&#039;ll go with daily tallies;

babies murderd by abortion

deaths buy overdose

poeple murdered buy criminals

criminals caught selling drugs

how many times a day on tv an uncertain theroy is preposessed as fact

new taxes suggested

how many times a day an uncertian theroy is preposessed as fact in print

thats just a few I could go all day but I won&#039;t.

oh mabee just one more, how many of this was done by liberals Vs. normal people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Show me anywhere in the constitution of its amendments that gives a right to broadcast your speech. Seriously, cause there are plenty of things I'd love to be able to force the networks to broadcast...</p></blockquote>
<p>Me too here be a few, i'll go with daily tallies;</p>
<p>babies murderd by abortion</p>
<p>deaths buy overdose</p>
<p>poeple murdered buy criminals</p>
<p>criminals caught selling drugs</p>
<p>how many times a day on tv an uncertain theroy is preposessed as fact</p>
<p>new taxes suggested</p>
<p>how many times a day an uncertian theroy is preposessed as fact in print</p>
<p>thats just a few I could go all day but I won't.</p>
<p>oh mabee just one more, how many of this was done by liberals Vs. normal people.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/politicians_lying_is_free_speech_/comment-page-1/#comment-178037</link>
		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The ballot box, not the courts, is the remedy in these cases.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You may be right, my point is that the law is not unconstitutional.  It may be a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The ballot box, not the courts, is the remedy in these cases.</p></blockquote>
<p>You may be right, my point is that the law is not unconstitutional.  It may be a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/politicians_lying_is_free_speech_/comment-page-1/#comment-178035</link>
		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Political speech is much more highly protected than commercial speech. Government can&#039;t regulate the content of your political speech.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The speech part you are correct about.  The broadgast part you are wrong on.  

Show me anywhere in the constitution of its amendments that gives a right to broadcast your speech.  Seriously, cause there are plenty of things I&#039;d love to be able to force the networks to broadcast...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Political speech is much more highly protected than commercial speech. Government can't regulate the content of your political speech.</p></blockquote>
<p>The speech part you are correct about.  The broadgast part you are wrong on.  </p>
<p>Show me anywhere in the constitution of its amendments that gives a right to broadcast your speech.  Seriously, cause there are plenty of things I'd love to be able to force the networks to broadcast...</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Demmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Demmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every word that a politician utters during a campaign is part of his or her application for a job. If I lie on my resume, or was found out later to have lied, the remedy is for me to lose my job or face sanctions.

The ballot box, not the courts, is the remedy in these cases.

As for using the courts to sue someone for slander, that&#039;s appropriate, I think.  If someone was spreading lies about me during a campaign, and I hought they were egregious enough, I might use the courts. Even if there was no chance of me winning, I would do it to show that I was not easy to push around, and that it would cost the other politician a bit of money to lie about me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every word that a politician utters during a campaign is part of his or her application for a job. If I lie on my resume, or was found out later to have lied, the remedy is for me to lose my job or face sanctions.</p>
<p>The ballot box, not the courts, is the remedy in these cases.</p>
<p>As for using the courts to sue someone for slander, that's appropriate, I think.  If someone was spreading lies about me during a campaign, and I hought they were egregious enough, I might use the courts. Even if there was no chance of me winning, I would do it to show that I was not easy to push around, and that it would cost the other politician a bit of money to lie about me.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There is nothing in the first amendment that gives a right to advertise. [...]  the government is free to police what I say on the air (for vulgarity or accuracy, as examples).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Political speech is much more highly protected than commercial speech. Government can&#039;t regulate the content of your political speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is nothing in the first amendment that gives a right to advertise. [...]  the government is free to police what I say on the air (for vulgarity or accuracy, as examples).</p></blockquote>
<p>Political speech is much more highly protected than commercial speech. Government can't regulate the content of your political speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Quite right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No actually blatantly wrong.  There is nothing in the first amendment that gives a right to advertise.  Air time is in no way the same as free speech.  I have a right to say what I want, I do not have a right to have those things broadcast.  I may be able to buy air time but I have no right to it, and the government is free to police what I say on the air (for vulgarity or accuracy, as examples).

Now you can argue that the law is poorly thought out or hard to enforce or whatever, but if you argue it is unconstitutional you&#039;re full of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Quite right.</p></blockquote>
<p>No actually blatantly wrong.  There is nothing in the first amendment that gives a right to advertise.  Air time is in no way the same as free speech.  I have a right to say what I want, I do not have a right to have those things broadcast.  I may be able to buy air time but I have no right to it, and the government is free to police what I say on the air (for vulgarity or accuracy, as examples).</p>
<p>Now you can argue that the law is poorly thought out or hard to enforce or whatever, but if you argue it is unconstitutional you're full of it.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a fine thing if the blogosphere kept track &lt;em&gt;in one place&lt;/em&gt; of the statements of politicians systematically, and noted which ones had been shown conclusively to be a lie in subsequent revelations. At the moment, these things are all over the place, with no knowledge of how accurate the falsification of the lie really is. Then too, lying by omission is not so easily proven. It is something to think about...if you want honesty in politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a fine thing if the blogosphere kept track <em>in one place</em> of the statements of politicians systematically, and noted which ones had been shown conclusively to be a lie in subsequent revelations. At the moment, these things are all over the place, with no knowledge of how accurate the falsification of the lie really is. Then too, lying by omission is not so easily proven. It is something to think about...if you want honesty in politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politicians are public figures. It is extremely difficult for public figures under the current system to successfully sue for slander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians are public figures. It is extremely difficult for public figures under the current system to successfully sue for slander.</p>
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		<title>By: bob in fl</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob in fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The notion that the government, rather than the people, may be the final arbiter of truth in political debate is fundamentally at odds with the First Amendment,”

Agreed. The flaw in the law, as I see it, is it left the decision of finding fact with a dept of the executive branch rather than the courts, thus encouraging govt censorship. If the law had established criminal penalties to be decided by a court, I believe the law would stand.

Michael is correct in his assertion that one can  sue for libel. However, this is a civil action, not a criminal one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The notion that the government, rather than the people, may be the final arbiter of truth in political debate is fundamentally at odds with the First Amendment,”</p>
<p>Agreed. The flaw in the law, as I see it, is it left the decision of finding fact with a dept of the executive branch rather than the courts, thus encouraging govt censorship. If the law had established criminal penalties to be decided by a court, I believe the law would stand.</p>
<p>Michael is correct in his assertion that one can  sue for libel. However, this is a civil action, not a criminal one.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t they still have an option to take it to civil court for slander and damages, especially if the victim loses an election because of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't they still have an option to take it to civil court for slander and damages, especially if the victim loses an election because of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick T. McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick T. McGuire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the term &quot;lying politicians&quot; redundant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn't the term "lying politicians" redundant?</p>
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