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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/president_again_names_the_enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-93952</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add, if you don&#039;t go after them where they train and equip, you will be doing &#039;police work joined with cooperative intel&#039; for an eternity. 

Yglesias&#039; quote clearly reveals his position, with the tired old lefty &#039;hasn’t managed to kill or capture Osama or Zawahiri&#039;.

However, many, many of their misguided followers are dead or captured.  So what?  We haven&#039;t heard a peep out of Osama for a while.  I guess he&#039;s busy trying to stay alive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add, if you don't go after them where they train and equip, you will be doing 'police work joined with cooperative intel' for an eternity. </p>
<p>Yglesias' quote clearly reveals his position, with the tired old lefty 'hasn&rsquo;t managed to kill or capture Osama or Zawahiri'.</p>
<p>However, many, many of their misguided followers are dead or captured.  So what?  We haven't heard a peep out of Osama for a while.  I guess he's busy trying to stay alive...</p>
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		<title>By: Trest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen, Anderson, you liberal-types don&#039;t seem to understand that you may disagree with Bush, but he is a strong leader because he STICKS WITH THE MESSAGE.  People who &quot;analyze&quot; like this Iglesias fellow are merely engaging in partisan class warfare.

We have to remember that 9/11 changed the world.  We no longer have any room for trying to make sense of the actual conditions on the ground.  We need to use our military strength to send a message to whoever, that we&#039;re not screwing around.  Sure, it may not actually rid the world of the threat or make us any safer, but it will help us stick to the message so the Dummocrats dont get out of hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen, Anderson, you liberal-types don't seem to understand that you may disagree with Bush, but he is a strong leader because he STICKS WITH THE MESSAGE.  People who "analyze" like this Iglesias fellow are merely engaging in partisan class warfare.</p>
<p>We have to remember that 9/11 changed the world.  We no longer have any room for trying to make sense of the actual conditions on the ground.  We need to use our military strength to send a message to whoever, that we're not screwing around.  Sure, it may not actually rid the world of the threat or make us any safer, but it will help us stick to the message so the Dummocrats dont get out of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islamofascists.  Man, who knew that Ossama was a closet corporatist who is an ardent anti-communist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islamofascists.  Man, who knew that Ossama was a closet corporatist who is an ardent anti-communist!</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/president_again_names_the_enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-93894</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Yglesias is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prospect.org/weblog/2006/08/post_1103.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;worth quoting in full &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;on this one (tho, like everyone else, he can benefit from my added emphasis):&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush says today&#039;s plots serve as a &quot;stark reminder that this nation is &lt;strong&gt;at war &lt;/strong&gt;with Islamic fascists.&quot; If anything, &lt;strong&gt;it&#039;s a stark reminder of the reverse&lt;/strong&gt;. A stark reminder that &lt;strong&gt;this isn&#039;t a &quot;war&quot; at all &lt;/strong&gt;-- you don&#039;t foil a plot like this with armored personnel carriers and JDAMs. We&#039;re also not going to capture the capital city of &quot;Islamic fascism&quot; -- not Kabul, not Baghdad, not even Teheran and Damascus -- and force our adversaries to surrender. 

It&#039;s not at all difficult to kill or capture terrorists. Instead, what makes them dangerous is that they&#039;re hard to identify. What makes them doubly dangerous is that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; they&#039;re hard to identify, the temptation is to target them very broadly&lt;/strong&gt;. And as we saw in the administration&#039;s desperately failed strategies in the &quot;Sunni triangle&quot; when you tar huge numbers of not-yet-opponents in your effort to find the bad guys, you wind up generating a much larger number of adversaries. The great challenge is to identify strategies for targeting terrorists narrowly enough so that the number of terrorists actually declines as a result of your counterterrorism operations. 

&lt;strong&gt;Bush keeps on doing the reverse &lt;/strong&gt;-- defining the enemy in very broad, very lazy ways; conflating issues that have little to do with each other; charging off half-cocked and pissing people off. Meanwhile, he &lt;strong&gt;hasn&#039;t managed to kill or capture Osama or Zawahiri and insists on reacting to everything that happens in the most-alarmist, most-partisan terms he can imagine&lt;/strong&gt;. Worst of all, the continued failure of his policies to ameliorate the problem is then trotted out as a justification for continuing -- or even intensifying -- the same failed approach.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Police work joined with cooperative intel seems to have broken the Heathrow plot, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Yglesias is <a href="http://www.prospect.org/weblog/2006/08/post_1103.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>worth quoting in full </strong></a>on this one (tho, like everyone else, he can benefit from my added emphasis):<br />
<blockquote>Bush says today's plots serve as a "stark reminder that this nation is <strong>at war </strong>with Islamic fascists." If anything, <strong>it's a stark reminder of the reverse</strong>. A stark reminder that <strong>this isn't a "war" at all </strong>-- you don't foil a plot like this with armored personnel carriers and JDAMs. We're also not going to capture the capital city of "Islamic fascism" -- not Kabul, not Baghdad, not even Teheran and Damascus -- and force our adversaries to surrender. </p>
<p>It's not at all difficult to kill or capture terrorists. Instead, what makes them dangerous is that they're hard to identify. What makes them doubly dangerous is that <strong><em>because</em> they're hard to identify, the temptation is to target them very broadly</strong>. And as we saw in the administration's desperately failed strategies in the "Sunni triangle" when you tar huge numbers of not-yet-opponents in your effort to find the bad guys, you wind up generating a much larger number of adversaries. The great challenge is to identify strategies for targeting terrorists narrowly enough so that the number of terrorists actually declines as a result of your counterterrorism operations. </p>
<p><strong>Bush keeps on doing the reverse </strong>-- defining the enemy in very broad, very lazy ways; conflating issues that have little to do with each other; charging off half-cocked and pissing people off. Meanwhile, he <strong>hasn't managed to kill or capture Osama or Zawahiri and insists on reacting to everything that happens in the most-alarmist, most-partisan terms he can imagine</strong>. Worst of all, the continued failure of his policies to ameliorate the problem is then trotted out as a justification for continuing -- or even intensifying -- the same failed approach.</p></blockquote>
<p>Police work joined with cooperative intel seems to have broken the Heathrow plot, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Gollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say jihadist /
I say &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/08/language_and_the_war_on_terror/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;irhabist &lt;/a&gt; /
You say Islamo-fascist /
I say mufsidoon /
jihadist, irhabist, Islamo-fascist, mufsidoon /
let&#039;s call the whole thing off . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say jihadist /<br />
I say <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/08/language_and_the_war_on_terror/" rel="nofollow">irhabist </a> /<br />
You say Islamo-fascist /<br />
I say mufsidoon /<br />
jihadist, irhabist, Islamo-fascist, mufsidoon /<br />
let's call the whole thing off . . .</p>
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		<title>By: skunky spliffmeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>skunky spliffmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand your logic.  I thought we are supposed to kill all them brown people, not just the fascist ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't understand your logic.  I thought we are supposed to kill all them brown people, not just the fascist ones?</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I thought all the suspects were British - aren&#039;t they all Anglicans? (/snark off)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I thought all the suspects were British - aren't they all Anglicans? (/snark off)</p>
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		<title>By:  » Gone Hollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator> » Gone Hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;[IMG Outside The Beltway &#124; OTB]  Auburn Clears Self in Grade Scam Scandal Lieberman And Today’s Foiled Terrorist Attacks Beltway Traffic Jam First Post-Primary Lieberman-Lamont Poll Shows Tight Race President (Again) Names the Enemy Israel, Hezbollah, and 4th Generation Warfare TCS Daily - Two Parties, Like it or Not Mike Wallace Says Ahmadinejad an Impressive Fellow British Mega-9/11 Foiled (Video Added) Caption Contest  [IMG OTB Sports]&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->[IMG Outside The Beltway | OTB]  Auburn Clears Self in Grade Scam Scandal Lieberman And Today&rsquo;s Foiled Terrorist Attacks Beltway Traffic Jam First Post-Primary Lieberman-Lamont Poll Shows Tight Race President (Again) Names the Enemy Israel, Hezbollah, and 4th Generation Warfare TCS Daily - Two Parties, Like it or Not Mike Wallace Says Ahmadinejad an Impressive Fellow British Mega-9/11 Foiled (Video Added) Caption Contest  [IMG OTB Sports]<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By:  » Wine Outside the Beltway</title>
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		<dc:creator> » Wine Outside the Beltway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt; Archives  August 2006     [IMG Outside The Beltway &#124; OTB]  Lieberman And Today’s Foiled Terrorist Attacks Beltway Traffic Jam First Post-Primary Lieberman-Lamont Poll Shows Tight Race President (Again) Names the Enemy Israel, Hezbollah, and 4th Generation Warfare TCS Daily - Two Parties, Like it or Not Mike Wallace Says Ahmadinejad an Impressive Fellow British Mega-9/11 Foiled (Video Added) Caption Contest It’s Just Like Pearl Harbor! (A Fisking)&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%--> Archives  August 2006     [IMG Outside The Beltway | OTB]  Lieberman And Today&rsquo;s Foiled Terrorist Attacks Beltway Traffic Jam First Post-Primary Lieberman-Lamont Poll Shows Tight Race President (Again) Names the Enemy Israel, Hezbollah, and 4th Generation Warfare TCS Daily - Two Parties, Like it or Not Mike Wallace Says Ahmadinejad an Impressive Fellow British Mega-9/11 Foiled (Video Added) Caption Contest It&rsquo;s Just Like Pearl Harbor! (A Fisking)<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: The Jawa Report v3.0 Beta</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Jawa Report v3.0 Beta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;to make sure that we do not start a religious war against Islam and Muslims,&quot; he told a news conference in Washington.  LGF asks &quot;The question now, of course, is: will Bush be politically compelled to issue a clarification?&quot;  James Joyner at Outside the Beltway and several other commenters note that Bush has used the similar terms &quot;Islamic radicalism&quot; &quot;militant jihadism&quot; and &quot;Islamo-fascism&quot; previously, for example:Some call this evil Islamic radicalism; others, militant Jihadism; still others,&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->to make sure that we do not start a religious war against Islam and Muslims," he told a news conference in Washington.  LGF asks "The question now, of course, is: will Bush be politically compelled to issue a clarification?"  James Joyner at Outside the Beltway and several other commenters note that Bush has used the similar terms "Islamic radicalism" "militant jihadism" and "Islamo-fascism" previously, for example:Some call this evil Islamic radicalism; others, militant Jihadism; still others,<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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