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		<title>By: Scott Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/primary_reform/comment-page-1/#comment-7647</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about this issue for several years.  Here is my proposed solution.

Step 1) After each presidential election, randomly draw 2 state names from a hat.  These two states will have a 3rd week of February primary during the next midterm election and the next Presidential election.

Step 2) Number the remaining states from 1 to 48 by population.  Divide the states into 4 groups.  (Add Washington DC population to the population of Maryland and rerank accordingly)

Group A - States 1,8,12,16,23,24,31,32,39,40,47,48
    
Group B - States 2,7,11,15,18,21,22,29,30,37,38,45,46

Group C - States 3,6,10,14,19,20,27,28,35,36,43,44

Group D - States 4,5,9,13,17,18,25,26,33,34,41,42

Divided this way, each group should be relatively close in population.

3) Primaries for all but the first two states will be held during the months of March, April, May, and June.  By lottery, choose which group gets which month.

4) Since each group has twelve states in it, and further divide the states in each group into 4 subgroups.  Each subgroup of 3 states would hold their primaries during susequent weeks.  (e.g. Subgroup A1 on 1st Tuesday of the month, A2 on second Tuesday, etc.)

After the four year cycle ends, the two states that enjoyed the February primary would be barred from the February primary for at least 96 years.  In this way each state would enjoy the February primary position once and only once every 100 years.  Also, each subsequent month, a roughly equal portion of the population would get to vote, and the states would be a mixture of demographics, region, and population.  That way, the candidates could not tune their message to just one portion of the population.

Suppose this happened in 2004 using the Year 2000 Census:

Using the Lottery method I explained to schedule the 2004 election, the primaries would be as follows (electoral votes in parenthesis):

February 17, 2004 
Rhode Island (4)
Delaware (3)

February States Total Population - 1,831,919
February Electoral College Votes - 7

March 2, 2004 
California (55)
Vermont (3)
Wyoming (3)

March 9, 2004 
Michigan (17)
Idaho (4)
Maine (4)

March 16, 2004
Virginia (13)
Mississippi (6)
Kansas (6)

March 23, 2004
Maryland (10)
District of Columbia (3)
Alabama (9)
Colorado (9)

March States Total Population - 74,710,074
March Electoral College Votes - 142

April 5, 2004
Indiana (11)
Wisconsin (10)
Arizona (10)

April 12, 2004
New York (31)
Montana (3)
South Dakota (3)

April 19, 2004
Pennsylvania (21)
Nevada (5)
New Mexico (5)

April 26, 2004
Georgia (15)
Oklahoma (7)
Oregon (7)

April States Total Population - 68,365,151
April Electoral College Votes - 128

May 2, 2004
North Carolina (15)
Connecticutt (7)
Iowa (7)

May 9, 2004
Washington (11)
Minnesota (10)
Louisianna (9)

May 16, 2004
Texas (34)
North Dakota (3)
Alaska (3)

May 23, 2004
Ohio (20)
West Virginia (5)
Nebraska (5)

May States Total Population - 66,657,477
May Electoral College Votes - 129

June 1 Memorial Day Break.

June 8, 2004
Illinois (21)
Arkansas (6)
Utah (5)

June 15, 2004
New Jersey (15)
Kentucky (8)
South Carolina (8)

June 22, 2004
Massachusetts (12)
Tennessee (11)
Missouri (11)

June 29, 2004
Florida (27)
New Hampshire (4)
Hawaii (4)

June States Total Population - 69,857,285
June Electoral College Votes - 132

I think that although this schedule might be hard on candidates, it would be better for the voting public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been thinking about this issue for several years.  Here is my proposed solution.</p>
<p>Step 1) After each presidential election, randomly draw 2 state names from a hat.  These two states will have a 3rd week of February primary during the next midterm election and the next Presidential election.</p>
<p>Step 2) Number the remaining states from 1 to 48 by population.  Divide the states into 4 groups.  (Add Washington DC population to the population of Maryland and rerank accordingly)</p>
<p>Group A - States 1,8,12,16,23,24,31,32,39,40,47,48</p>
<p>Group B - States 2,7,11,15,18,21,22,29,30,37,38,45,46</p>
<p>Group C - States 3,6,10,14,19,20,27,28,35,36,43,44</p>
<p>Group D - States 4,5,9,13,17,18,25,26,33,34,41,42</p>
<p>Divided this way, each group should be relatively close in population.</p>
<p>3) Primaries for all but the first two states will be held during the months of March, April, May, and June.  By lottery, choose which group gets which month.</p>
<p>4) Since each group has twelve states in it, and further divide the states in each group into 4 subgroups.  Each subgroup of 3 states would hold their primaries during susequent weeks.  (e.g. Subgroup A1 on 1st Tuesday of the month, A2 on second Tuesday, etc.)</p>
<p>After the four year cycle ends, the two states that enjoyed the February primary would be barred from the February primary for at least 96 years.  In this way each state would enjoy the February primary position once and only once every 100 years.  Also, each subsequent month, a roughly equal portion of the population would get to vote, and the states would be a mixture of demographics, region, and population.  That way, the candidates could not tune their message to just one portion of the population.</p>
<p>Suppose this happened in 2004 using the Year 2000 Census:</p>
<p>Using the Lottery method I explained to schedule the 2004 election, the primaries would be as follows (electoral votes in parenthesis):</p>
<p>February 17, 2004<br />
Rhode Island (4)<br />
Delaware (3)</p>
<p>February States Total Population - 1,831,919<br />
February Electoral College Votes - 7</p>
<p>March 2, 2004<br />
California (55)<br />
Vermont (3)<br />
Wyoming (3)</p>
<p>March 9, 2004<br />
Michigan (17)<br />
Idaho (4)<br />
Maine (4)</p>
<p>March 16, 2004<br />
Virginia (13)<br />
Mississippi (6)<br />
Kansas (6)</p>
<p>March 23, 2004<br />
Maryland (10)<br />
District of Columbia (3)<br />
Alabama (9)<br />
Colorado (9)</p>
<p>March States Total Population - 74,710,074<br />
March Electoral College Votes - 142</p>
<p>April 5, 2004<br />
Indiana (11)<br />
Wisconsin (10)<br />
Arizona (10)</p>
<p>April 12, 2004<br />
New York (31)<br />
Montana (3)<br />
South Dakota (3)</p>
<p>April 19, 2004<br />
Pennsylvania (21)<br />
Nevada (5)<br />
New Mexico (5)</p>
<p>April 26, 2004<br />
Georgia (15)<br />
Oklahoma (7)<br />
Oregon (7)</p>
<p>April States Total Population - 68,365,151<br />
April Electoral College Votes - 128</p>
<p>May 2, 2004<br />
North Carolina (15)<br />
Connecticutt (7)<br />
Iowa (7)</p>
<p>May 9, 2004<br />
Washington (11)<br />
Minnesota (10)<br />
Louisianna (9)</p>
<p>May 16, 2004<br />
Texas (34)<br />
North Dakota (3)<br />
Alaska (3)</p>
<p>May 23, 2004<br />
Ohio (20)<br />
West Virginia (5)<br />
Nebraska (5)</p>
<p>May States Total Population - 66,657,477<br />
May Electoral College Votes - 129</p>
<p>June 1 Memorial Day Break.</p>
<p>June 8, 2004<br />
Illinois (21)<br />
Arkansas (6)<br />
Utah (5)</p>
<p>June 15, 2004<br />
New Jersey (15)<br />
Kentucky (8)<br />
South Carolina (8)</p>
<p>June 22, 2004<br />
Massachusetts (12)<br />
Tennessee (11)<br />
Missouri (11)</p>
<p>June 29, 2004<br />
Florida (27)<br />
New Hampshire (4)<br />
Hawaii (4)</p>
<p>June States Total Population - 69,857,285<br />
June Electoral College Votes - 132</p>
<p>I think that although this schedule might be hard on candidates, it would be better for the voting public.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/primary_reform/comment-page-1/#comment-7648</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another option is to divide the country into six regions and hold primaries every two weeks over a period of ten weeks.

Northeast Region:
ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, DE
Total Electoral Votes = 83

Atlantic Region:
PA, OH, WV, MD, DC, VA, KY, NC
Total Electoral Votes = 95

Southeast Region:
Fl, GA, AL, MS, LA, AR, TN, SC
Total Electoral Votes = 91

Midwest Region:
MI, IN, WI, IL, MN, IA, MO
Total Electoral Votes = 87

Western Region:
ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, TX, MT, WY, CO, NM, UT, AZ
Total Electoral Votes = 93

Pacific Region:
ID, NV, WA, OR, CA, AK, HA
Total Electoral Votes = 89

Rotate the order each region gets to vote starting on the 3rd Tuesday of February, 1st &amp; 3rd Tuesdays of March &amp; April and 1st Tuesday of May.

This would limit travelling costs for candidates and allow them to focus their messages to fit each specific region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another option is to divide the country into six regions and hold primaries every two weeks over a period of ten weeks.</p>
<p>Northeast Region:<br />
ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, DE<br />
Total Electoral Votes = 83</p>
<p>Atlantic Region:<br />
PA, OH, WV, MD, DC, VA, KY, NC<br />
Total Electoral Votes = 95</p>
<p>Southeast Region:<br />
Fl, GA, AL, MS, LA, AR, TN, SC<br />
Total Electoral Votes = 91</p>
<p>Midwest Region:<br />
MI, IN, WI, IL, MN, IA, MO<br />
Total Electoral Votes = 87</p>
<p>Western Region:<br />
ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, TX, MT, WY, CO, NM, UT, AZ<br />
Total Electoral Votes = 93</p>
<p>Pacific Region:<br />
ID, NV, WA, OR, CA, AK, HA<br />
Total Electoral Votes = 89</p>
<p>Rotate the order each region gets to vote starting on the 3rd Tuesday of February, 1st &#038; 3rd Tuesdays of March &#038; April and 1st Tuesday of May.</p>
<p>This would limit travelling costs for candidates and allow them to focus their messages to fit each specific region.</p>
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		<title>By: harm d.</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/primary_reform/comment-page-1/#comment-7649</link>
		<dc:creator>harm d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr. harris, can i just make the quasi-cheeky remark that you seem to have invested large (perhaps inordinately so) amounts of time into this?

perhaps you should compile &amp; submit it to &quot;proper authorities...&quot; you never know what might happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr. harris, can i just make the quasi-cheeky remark that you seem to have invested large (perhaps inordinately so) amounts of time into this?</p>
<p>perhaps you should compile &#038; submit it to "proper authorities..." you never know what might happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kearney</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/primary_reform/comment-page-1/#comment-7650</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Kearney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people are too lazy to get off their ass and participate in the existing process why should we believe it&#039;s worth wasting money to invent yet another process?

Honestly, nothing cuts short some tongue wagging idiot, going on about the elections, like confronting them on their actual election participation.  More often than not, they haven&#039;t even bothered to vote.  As someone who DOES vote I&#039;m pretty unsympathetic to their bleatings.

The process exists and, with all it&#039;s issues, has worked quite well for two centuries.  If that&#039;s not enough time for people to learn then perhaps they&#039;re hopeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people are too lazy to get off their ass and participate in the existing process why should we believe it's worth wasting money to invent yet another process?</p>
<p>Honestly, nothing cuts short some tongue wagging idiot, going on about the elections, like confronting them on their actual election participation.  More often than not, they haven't even bothered to vote.  As someone who DOES vote I'm pretty unsympathetic to their bleatings.</p>
<p>The process exists and, with all it's issues, has worked quite well for two centuries.  If that's not enough time for people to learn then perhaps they're hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: The American Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/primary_reform/comment-page-1/#comment-7651</link>
		<dc:creator>The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Primary Problem&lt;/strong&gt;
Some states are canceling their Presidential primaries or are replacing them with caucuses in 2004. With the primaries becoming so

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Primary Problem</strong><br />
Some states are canceling their Presidential primaries or are replacing them with caucuses in 2004. With the primaries becoming so</p>
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