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		<title>By: Furhead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/quote_of_the_day_-_conservative_icons_edition_/comment-page-1/#comment-1062164</link>
		<dc:creator>Furhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KenJ-

You&#039;re losing me, sorry if you can&#039;t respond any further.  The only reason Miss California got in the news in the *first* place is because she claimed she lost because of her answer, and conservatives rushed to say that was an outrage (which I think is a fair point, by the way).  Who are you blaming for this?  The media, for investigating this outrage?  That&#039;s their JOBS, and that&#039;s what they DO.

Or are you blaming whatever twerps that kept the story alive by releasing semi-nude photos of her?  Note that even so, she is at least partly responsible for them.

Or are you just blaming liberals in general, because Perez Hilton is a (somewhat deranged) liberal who shouldn&#039;t be allowed to ask questions that have little to do with, uh, whatever Miss USA is supposed to be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KenJ-</p>
<p>You're losing me, sorry if you can't respond any further.  The only reason Miss California got in the news in the *first* place is because she claimed she lost because of her answer, and conservatives rushed to say that was an outrage (which I think is a fair point, by the way).  Who are you blaming for this?  The media, for investigating this outrage?  That's their JOBS, and that's what they DO.</p>
<p>Or are you blaming whatever twerps that kept the story alive by releasing semi-nude photos of her?  Note that even so, she is at least partly responsible for them.</p>
<p>Or are you just blaming liberals in general, because Perez Hilton is a (somewhat deranged) liberal who shouldn't be allowed to ask questions that have little to do with, uh, whatever Miss USA is supposed to be?</p>
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		<title>By: KenJ</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/quote_of_the_day_-_conservative_icons_edition_/comment-page-1/#comment-1062119</link>
		<dc:creator>KenJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furhead: I am sure you enjoy these little conversations but I really don&#039;t have time to go back and forth all day. I am on my lunch break at this time. My point was this (and I am sure you know full well what it was): after Ms. California answered the question, if Mr. Pretty Pants had simply said, &quot;Thank you&quot;, that would have been the end of it, and her moment of fame.  That&#039;s not how it played out.  If Joe had asked his question and the press not been aghast at his impertinence in asking a more difficult question than they ever had, then that would have been the end of Joe, and his 15 minutes.  The press would not let either die - they were having too much &quot;fun&quot; as you call it. So much fun, in fact, that a government employee was digging through public records for information on Joe. And they really enjoy &quot;making fun&quot; of Gov. Palin. Please feel free to answer with another &quot;talk around the subject&quot; response.  I agree with James they shouldn&#039;t be embraced after they are &quot;outed&quot;. But, in my opinion, they should never have been put out there in the first place. And the more we discuss it, the longer they stay out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furhead: I am sure you enjoy these little conversations but I really don't have time to go back and forth all day. I am on my lunch break at this time. My point was this (and I am sure you know full well what it was): after Ms. California answered the question, if Mr. Pretty Pants had simply said, "Thank you", that would have been the end of it, and her moment of fame.  That's not how it played out.  If Joe had asked his question and the press not been aghast at his impertinence in asking a more difficult question than they ever had, then that would have been the end of Joe, and his 15 minutes.  The press would not let either die - they were having too much "fun" as you call it. So much fun, in fact, that a government employee was digging through public records for information on Joe. And they really enjoy "making fun" of Gov. Palin. Please feel free to answer with another "talk around the subject" response.  I agree with James they shouldn't be embraced after they are "outed". But, in my opinion, they should never have been put out there in the first place. And the more we discuss it, the longer they stay out there.</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...it&#039;s wrong for conservatives to let their political enemies define them, but then we are treated to this...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Alas, you are not the Left, the Democrats, or whatever label you deem appropriate for the segment of the political class marching in lockstep to a progressive agenda, or at least pretending to in an historic power grab of legendary proportions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There seems an inconsistency here...I suppose Democrats and liberals should follow the advice given on some of the comments here and ignore the above statement...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So...it's wrong for conservatives to let their political enemies define them, but then we are treated to this...</p>
<blockquote><p>Alas, you are not the Left, the Democrats, or whatever label you deem appropriate for the segment of the political class marching in lockstep to a progressive agenda, or at least pretending to in an historic power grab of legendary proportions.</p></blockquote>
<p>There seems an inconsistency here...I suppose Democrats and liberals should follow the advice given on some of the comments here and ignore the above statement...</p>
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		<title>By: Furhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KenJ-

First off you are making some mistaken assumption about who I am.

But I&#039;m just curious, how exactly did the left ask Miss California to record a commercial against gay marriage?  No one has explained how this doesn&#039;t make her the face of a movement.

With regards to Joe the Plumber, he was brought up at a debate, but I actually don&#039;t remember if it was by McCain or the moderator.  If it was the moderator, and you remember which one and it&#039;s a bonafide lefty, you may have an argument that it was pushed by the left.

Regarding your silly notion that only the left makes fun of people, holy crap are you blinded by partisanship.  Ever heard a conservative talk about Al Gore or any Hollywood character, or for that matter any other liberal?  It&#039;s not pretty and it&#039;s often far worse.  I&#039;ve heard my share of extremely violent racist jokes about Obama.  Just because these jokes aren&#039;t on the Daily Show doesn&#039;t mean people aren&#039;t telling them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KenJ-</p>
<p>First off you are making some mistaken assumption about who I am.</p>
<p>But I'm just curious, how exactly did the left ask Miss California to record a commercial against gay marriage?  No one has explained how this doesn't make her the face of a movement.</p>
<p>With regards to Joe the Plumber, he was brought up at a debate, but I actually don't remember if it was by McCain or the moderator.  If it was the moderator, and you remember which one and it's a bonafide lefty, you may have an argument that it was pushed by the left.</p>
<p>Regarding your silly notion that only the left makes fun of people, holy crap are you blinded by partisanship.  Ever heard a conservative talk about Al Gore or any Hollywood character, or for that matter any other liberal?  It's not pretty and it's often far worse.  I've heard my share of extremely violent racist jokes about Obama.  Just because these jokes aren't on the Daily Show doesn't mean people aren't telling them.</p>
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		<title>By: Spoker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Still, I wish conservatives would be more careful about the figures they embrace and quicker to distance themselves from unseemly conduct on their part once more is revealed.&quot;

Spoken like a true David Letterman fan.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Still, I wish conservatives would be more careful about the figures they embrace and quicker to distance themselves from unseemly conduct on their part once more is revealed."</p>
<p>Spoken like a true David Letterman fan."</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sam, you seem to be an educated, erudite and reasonable person.  Alas, you are not the Left, the Democrats, or whatever label you deem appropriate for the segment of the political class marching in lockstep to a progressive agenda, or at least pretending to in an historic power grab of legendary proportions.

Your comment about Milton Friedman&#039;s ideas being simplistic is puzzling.  Clearly the subject is far too complicated to resolve in a series of short posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sam, you seem to be an educated, erudite and reasonable person.  Alas, you are not the Left, the Democrats, or whatever label you deem appropriate for the segment of the political class marching in lockstep to a progressive agenda, or at least pretending to in an historic power grab of legendary proportions.</p>
<p>Your comment about Milton Friedman's ideas being simplistic is puzzling.  Clearly the subject is far too complicated to resolve in a series of short posts.</p>
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		<title>By: KenJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furhead:  if anyone threw these people into the spot light, it was the left.  You have two people, one who asked a question, and one who answered a question who were in the news much, much longer than was necessary for what they did.  Everything afterwards was caused by the left&#039;s response.  Charles Austin is correct-we have been letting others define us for a long time.  You don&#039;t define who we are Furhead, or who speaks for us.  I did not &quot;embrace&quot; either of of the two people above, but I damn sure don&#039;t think being humiliated and ridiculed for days and weeks on end is normal behavior either, but sadly it is becoming more and more of a common practice for the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furhead:  if anyone threw these people into the spot light, it was the left.  You have two people, one who asked a question, and one who answered a question who were in the news much, much longer than was necessary for what they did.  Everything afterwards was caused by the left's response.  Charles Austin is correct-we have been letting others define us for a long time.  You don't define who we are Furhead, or who speaks for us.  I did not "embrace" either of of the two people above, but I damn sure don't think being humiliated and ridiculed for days and weeks on end is normal behavior either, but sadly it is becoming more and more of a common practice for the left.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Before you disagree, does the left admire, or at least respect someone like, say, Milton Friedman?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Charles, can we agree to just drop this &quot;the left&quot; and &quot;the right&quot; bullshit? It obscures more than it illuminates. As for Friedman, well, as I think I posted here some time ago, I had the great good fortune of having a long conversation with him and wife many years ago in connection with an article I was writing for a magazine. I respected him, deeply. I disagreed with his view of things, but never for one moment thought that his positions, philosophically speaking, were indefensible. I thought, and still think, that his views were simplistic, but not, I repeat &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt;, simple-minded. I still cherish my meeting with him. He was one of the nicest men I&#039;ve ever met. And he was intellectually generous to his opponents, a trait not much in evidence these days, alas. My one regret was that I never asked him about his view of Rawls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Before you disagree, does the left admire, or at least respect someone like, say, Milton Friedman?</p></blockquote>
<p>Charles, can we agree to just drop this "the left" and "the right" bullshit? It obscures more than it illuminates. As for Friedman, well, as I think I posted here some time ago, I had the great good fortune of having a long conversation with him and wife many years ago in connection with an article I was writing for a magazine. I respected him, deeply. I disagreed with his view of things, but never for one moment thought that his positions, philosophically speaking, were indefensible. I thought, and still think, that his views were simplistic, but not, I repeat <em>not</em>, simple-minded. I still cherish my meeting with him. He was one of the nicest men I've ever met. And he was intellectually generous to his opponents, a trait not much in evidence these days, alas. My one regret was that I never asked him about his view of Rawls.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sam, I can concur with your assessment to the extent that classical liberalism seems to have lost all its defenders, Republican or Democrat.  I think the Democratic pool is pretty damn shallow as well but they have a sort of protected status in the media.  When you consider the media barrage that is so strongly tilted against them, I&#039;m not sure any Republicans can succeed in popular culture.  Before you disagree, does the left admire, or at least respect someone like, say, Milton Friedman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sam, I can concur with your assessment to the extent that classical liberalism seems to have lost all its defenders, Republican or Democrat.  I think the Democratic pool is pretty damn shallow as well but they have a sort of protected status in the media.  When you consider the media barrage that is so strongly tilted against them, I'm not sure any Republicans can succeed in popular culture.  Before you disagree, does the left admire, or at least respect someone like, say, Milton Friedman?</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Limbaugh******* Cheney***** Palin****&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Democrats certainly hope so, as this triumvirate will do wonders for the Dem&#039;s electoral chances...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Limbaugh******* Cheney***** Palin****</p></blockquote>
<p>Democrats certainly hope so, as this triumvirate will do wonders for the Dem's electoral chances...</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triumph**********************************************</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triumph**********************************************</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;face&quot; of the party...but who really is?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Limbaugh******* Cheney***** Palin****</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>"face" of the party...but who really is?</p></blockquote>
<p>Limbaugh******* Cheney***** Palin****</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As for the Republican party, hah! I&#039;ve been in better organized riots.&lt;/blockquote&gt; lol, i&#039;ll bet you have........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As for the Republican party, hah! I've been in better organized riots.</p></blockquote>
<p> lol, i'll bet you have........</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sam gets it exactly right...there is an enormous vacuum right now in the GOP so it makes sense that some might want to make Prejean the &quot;face&quot; of the party...but who really is?  Limbaugh?  Gingrich?  Cheney?  Palin?  While most Dems and liberals probably love these choices, what about conservatives...who would you pick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sam gets it exactly right...there is an enormous vacuum right now in the GOP so it makes sense that some might want to make Prejean the "face" of the party...but who really is?  Limbaugh?  Gingrich?  Cheney?  Palin?  While most Dems and liberals probably love these choices, what about conservatives...who would you pick...</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, Charles, I don&#039;t hate you. I think Matt and Trey said they hate conservatives, but they really hate liberals. Anyhoo, do you disagree with my main point, regardless of your political affiliation (or lack of), that if the Republican party, conservative movement, whatever, had its shit together, none of this goofy stuff would be happening? As for the Republican party, hah! I&#039;ve been in better organized riots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Charles, I don't hate you. I think Matt and Trey said they hate conservatives, but they really hate liberals. Anyhoo, do you disagree with my main point, regardless of your political affiliation (or lack of), that if the Republican party, conservative movement, whatever, had its shit together, none of this goofy stuff would be happening? As for the Republican party, hah! I've been in better organized riots.</p>
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