Why on earth would they need to be ‘publicly known’, as in releated by the press?

For the same reason you don't run to the press whenever someone you know says or does something stupid. Because there's no point in telling someone you've denounced a statement they didn't even know was made.

Bottom line is that this issue is about Obama’s chocies, and his mindset. And enabling this guy for 20 years… for whatever reason… strickes me as a disqualifier.

There were more people at that church than Obama and Wright, and Obama's time and money went to help many more people, it wasn't just to cover Wright's salary. Seriously, haven't you ever gone to church?

How long after Wright’s statements became publicly known did Obama publically denounce them?

I missed this first time;

Why on earth would they need to be 'publicly known', as in releated by the press? He was sitting in the Pews, pouring his money into the place for 20 years.... and now, apparently only stands up for what's right when his failure to do so threatens his path to power.

Which was the entire issue with him on this.
Think anybody gives a poop about Wright?
(Well, you and I perhaps, but beyond that, few.)
Bottom line is that this issue is about Obama's chocies, and his mindset. And enabling this guy for 20 years... for whatever reason... strickes me as a disqualifier.

If he wasn’t checked out prior to McCain appearing with him to accept his endorsement, someone in the McCain camp needs to be fired

If I'm not much mistaken, that's been tended to.

I’m not attacking McCain for it, I’m just saying that there is a difference between associating with someone after the fact, and having been associated with someone before the fact.

I agree, and I'm suggesting there are a number of those differences you've not considered.

Heh, when every relationship you have goes bad, perhaps the problem isn’t other people.

Oh, not all. Just somewhat less than half.

(think about it)

Oh, please. I suspect Hagee wasn’t even on Mccain’s radar.

If he wasn't checked out prior to McCain appearing with him to accept his endorsement, someone in the McCain camp needs to be fired.

I’m no fan of Mccain’s, mind you, but this attack of yours was a horse, I’d shoot it; it’s lame.

I'm not attacking McCain for it, I'm just saying that there is a difference between associating with someone after the fact, and having been associated with someone before the fact.

To the contrary; I’m still looking for one good Democrat. Been looking for 35 years, and have not found one yet, that stayed a Democrat for long. I thought perhaps Obama had a chance at it, but no.

Heh, when every relationship you have goes bad, perhaps the problem isn't other people.

How long after Wright’s statements became publicly known did Obama publically denounce them? How long after Hagee’s statements were publicly known did McCain enthusiastically accept his endorsement?

Oh, please. I suspect Hagee wasn't even on Mccain's radar. He certainly wasn't on mine... and he wouldn't be on yours, now, except for he endorsement, and the resulting background search for something to hang on Mccain. I'm no fan of Mccain's, mind you, but this attack of yours was a horse, I'd shoot it; it's lame.

I suspect you’re not looking for something that will “cut it”, but instead just trying to convince yourself that he is a bad person because of this, so you can justify your own dislike of the man

To the contrary; I'm still looking for one good Democrat. Been looking for 35 years, and have not found one yet, that stayed a Democrat for long. I thought perhaps Obama had a chance at it, but no.

only after the matter became an obsticle to his atatining political power. See, that’s the weak spot in your argument. mccain hasn’t been sitting in Hagee’s church for 20 years, and enabling him by pouring his time, his talent and his money into the place, as Obama was.

How long after Wright's statements became publicly known did Obama publically denounce them? How long after Hagee's statements were publicly known did McCain enthusiastically accept his endorsement?

Obama’s half-hearted objection this far after the fact, don’t cut it.

I suspect you're not looking for something that will "cut it", but instead just trying to convince yourself that he is a bad person because of this, so you can justify your own dislike of the man.

Um, you really are delusional. WTF makes you say that I brought it up?

WRT your other half baked argument, it's comforting to see that you're quite alright with political pandering to a catholic bigot and someone who has repeatedly said that God has damned America.

Luckily, the rest of America has measured the arguments you're making and declared bullshit.

Geebus, Bithead. Where’s this mythical world where people are crying for McCain to denounce and deny Hagee?

Then why bring it up?

Obama, on the other hand, was associated with Wright long before the particular statements in question were made. Obama has disassociated himself with those specific statements....

.... only after the matter became an obsticle to his atatining political power. See, that's the weak spot in your argument. mccain hasn't been sitting in Hagee's church for 20 years, and enabling him by pouring his time, his talent and his money into the place, as Obama was.

Obama's half-hearted objection this far after the fact, don't cut it.

Pretty much, yes, if you think on it. Think a little wider spectrum, here…

If you have to "think a little wider spectrum", then the answer is "No, but...".

What are we saying when we tell McCain he’s got to disassociate hismelf from Hagee? That All of Hagee’s judgements are in question, and if McCain doesn’t disconnect himself from Hagee, that all McCain’s jusgements are similary suspect.

McCain had no association with Hagee before Hagee's statements were know. That McCain chose to associate himself with the man after those statements were known, and without disassociating himself with the individual statements, leads some of us to believe that McCain chooses to associate himself with those statements as well.

Obama, on the other hand, was associated with Wright long before the particular statements in question were made. Obama has disassociated himself with those specific statements, while giving a (rather forceful, in my opinion) explanation as to why he is not disassociating himself with Wright completely.

You really are a loon.

Is McCain being asked to denounce any and all actions done by Hagee at any point in time?

Pretty much, yes, if you think on it. Think a little wider spectrum, here....

What are we saying when we tell McCain he's got to disassociate hismelf from Hagee? That All of Hagee's judgements are in question, and if McCain doesn't disconnect himself from Hagee, that all McCain's jusgements are similary suspect.

I find that interesting, because Obama tried publicly... and not very forcefully... disagreeing with Wright on specific issues, and the Democrats lapped it up, and suddenly Obama was valid again. He's no longer to be considered a racist.

Do you suppose McCain would get the same treatment if he tried playing the same game with Hagee?

I don't either.

Okay, so much for the benefit of the doubt. He’s got deep seated issues and deficiencies. And most likely mother issues.

It seems he's got some spam-filter issues too. Interesting that emails are sent out, even if the messages themselves fall into the spam traps.

They don't. I manually deleted them rather than have them further divert the discussion. I was away at a meeting and was therefore behind in policing the thread. - jhj