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		<title>By: Is There Hope, After All? &#8211; Turning Points</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-527498</link>
		<dc:creator>Is There Hope, After All? &#8211; Turning Points</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the only Republican to be concerned over the future of the party, either. James Joyner, author of Outside the Beltway, has posted an interesting article that addresses the same problem that Ms. Parker has identified. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the only Republican to be concerned over the future of the party, either. James Joyner, author of Outside the Beltway, has posted an interesting article that addresses the same problem that Ms. Parker has identified. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522785</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;Taking on the frontrunner of the party, who had just about every advantage, and methodically beating her, after starting with jack sh*t in his hand. That&#039;s a really good start.&quot;&quot;
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It&#039;s not me who flunked! It was David Axelrod[Obama&#039;s puppeteer] who did the above!
As for psychedelics; I quit being a Democrat when the party was taken over by the &#039;60s &quot;Flower Children&quot; and then later by the &#039;90s &quot;Children of the Corn&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>""Taking on the frontrunner of the party, who had just about every advantage, and methodically beating her, after starting with jack sh*t in his hand. That's a really good start.""<br />
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It's not me who flunked! It was David Axelrod[Obama's puppeteer] who did the above!<br />
As for psychedelics; I quit being a Democrat when the party was taken over by the '60s "Flower Children" and then later by the '90s "Children of the Corn".</p>
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		<title>By: PaulDeReno</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522667</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulDeReno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And furthermore, no matter how much abortion is restricted, the Republicans will still have the issue, because the Christian Right&#039;s ultimate goal is the reversal of &lt;em&gt;Roe vs. Wade&lt;/em&gt;. They won&#039;t break with the right until that happens.  (Even in the unlikely event that it does happen, many on the Christian Right will continue to push for a Right to Life Act/Amendment, when they see that all the Roe reversal would do is leave abortion up to the states.)  I personally feel that such an act would be unconstitutional, as it is a police power, but my opinion isn&#039;t important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And furthermore, no matter how much abortion is restricted, the Republicans will still have the issue, because the Christian Right's ultimate goal is the reversal of <em>Roe vs. Wade</em>. They won't break with the right until that happens.  (Even in the unlikely event that it does happen, many on the Christian Right will continue to push for a Right to Life Act/Amendment, when they see that all the Roe reversal would do is leave abortion up to the states.)  I personally feel that such an act would be unconstitutional, as it is a police power, but my opinion isn't important.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulDeReno</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522664</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulDeReno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why people keep falsely asserting that Social Conservatism is dead.  I understand why David Frum is saying it.  He hates social conservatives and has been trying to sabotage them since his Yale days.  I don&#039;t understand, however, why anybody takes him seriously.

Social Security may be here to stay, but nobody, liberal or conservative, gives a damn about the DOE except vested interests. (Although high-information liberals who recognize its role in multicultural indoctrination might fight for it, most voters are vaguely--if at all--aware that it exists.  The thing is, they don&#039;t like words like &quot;abolish&quot; and &quot;end&quot; because these words sound extreme.  All a conservative candidate would have to do is say &quot;reduce the budget for the DOE&quot; and then kill it, and no one would care.

Same with abortion.  Abandon harsh rhetoric and the issue is yours, particularly with the extremism of Obama, NARAL, and other proponents of the FOCA.  A small--but real--majority of voters &lt;i&gt;of all ages&lt;/i&gt; want to restrict abortion more than it is restricted today.  And the amount of truly committed Pro-Lifers &lt;i&gt;vastly&lt;/i&gt; outnumbers the committed Pro-Choicers, a contingent mostly limited to &quot;Wymyn&#039;s Studies&quot; departments on college campuses.

IMO, the main reason why urban &quot;moderate&quot; Republicans want to stifle the Social/Populist/Christian/anti-PC Right is because they don&#039;t like them and are embarrassed of them in front of their nice urban liberal friends.  They wish to say &quot;Look, we&#039;re as sophisticated and progressive as you liberals, and we love PC; we just want lower marginal tax rates.&quot; (I am not saying that this is what Mr. Joyner thinks.)

This is doomed to fail for obvious reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't understand why people keep falsely asserting that Social Conservatism is dead.  I understand why David Frum is saying it.  He hates social conservatives and has been trying to sabotage them since his Yale days.  I don't understand, however, why anybody takes him seriously.</p>
<p>Social Security may be here to stay, but nobody, liberal or conservative, gives a damn about the DOE except vested interests. (Although high-information liberals who recognize its role in multicultural indoctrination might fight for it, most voters are vaguely--if at all--aware that it exists.  The thing is, they don't like words like "abolish" and "end" because these words sound extreme.  All a conservative candidate would have to do is say "reduce the budget for the DOE" and then kill it, and no one would care.</p>
<p>Same with abortion.  Abandon harsh rhetoric and the issue is yours, particularly with the extremism of Obama, NARAL, and other proponents of the FOCA.  A small--but real--majority of voters <i>of all ages</i> want to restrict abortion more than it is restricted today.  And the amount of truly committed Pro-Lifers <i>vastly</i> outnumbers the committed Pro-Choicers, a contingent mostly limited to "Wymyn's Studies" departments on college campuses.</p>
<p>IMO, the main reason why urban "moderate" Republicans want to stifle the Social/Populist/Christian/anti-PC Right is because they don't like them and are embarrassed of them in front of their nice urban liberal friends.  They wish to say "Look, we're as sophisticated and progressive as you liberals, and we love PC; we just want lower marginal tax rates." (I am not saying that this is what Mr. Joyner thinks.)</p>
<p>This is doomed to fail for obvious reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ummm... No, Barry, just truthful.
It is a scam that in a sane world would have been axed the moment Truman left 1600.&quot;
Posted by Bithead 

Thanks for taking the test- you flunk; not a surprise to anybody who has read even one OTB comment thread.


&quot;Barry;
So... You&#039;re saying that David Axelrod should be president? Right?&quot;
Posted by Floyd &#124; November 11, 2008 &#124; 03:11 pm &#124;  

Thank you for taking the test - you flunk, and are also positive for psychedelics (considering I didn&#039;t even mention D.A.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Ummm... No, Barry, just truthful.<br />
It is a scam that in a sane world would have been axed the moment Truman left 1600."<br />
Posted by Bithead </p>
<p>Thanks for taking the test- you flunk; not a surprise to anybody who has read even one OTB comment thread.</p>
<p>"Barry;<br />
So... You're saying that David Axelrod should be president? Right?"<br />
Posted by Floyd | November 11, 2008 | 03:11 pm |  </p>
<p>Thank you for taking the test - you flunk, and are also positive for psychedelics (considering I didn't even mention D.A.).</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522549</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thus demonstrating his inability to stay within the realm of reality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, reality in the bitverse perhaps. You know, the place that proves Orwell knew of what he spoke...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thus demonstrating his inability to stay within the realm of reality.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, reality in the bitverse perhaps. You know, the place that proves Orwell knew of what he spoke...</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522543</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm... No, Barry, just truthful.
It is a scam that in a sane world would have been axed the moment Truman left 1600.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm... No, Barry, just truthful.<br />
It is a scam that in a sane world would have been axed the moment Truman left 1600.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry; 
       So... You&#039;re saying that David Axelrod should be president? Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry;<br />
       So... You're saying that David Axelrod should be president? Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522520</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Social Security is still a disastrous Ponzi scheme.&quot;

James, anybody who says this is either ignorant, foolish or lying.  There is no third alternative.  It&#039;s one of those things which allows one to check somebody off as not having an opinion deserving of respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Social Security is still a disastrous Ponzi scheme."</p>
<p>James, anybody who says this is either ignorant, foolish or lying.  There is no third alternative.  It's one of those things which allows one to check somebody off as not having an opinion deserving of respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522518</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And your respect was earned by Obama, how, again?&quot;

Posted by Bithead

Taking on the frontrunner of the party, who had just about every advantage, and methodically beating her, after starting with jack sh*t in his hand.  That&#039;s a really good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"And your respect was earned by Obama, how, again?"</p>
<p>Posted by Bithead</p>
<p>Taking on the frontrunner of the party, who had just about every advantage, and methodically beating her, after starting with jack sh*t in his hand.  That's a really good start.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog (TM): A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; On the Future of the GOP</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog (TM): A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; On the Future of the GOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Republican Party’s Future [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522449</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Simple. By talking to me like I was an intelligent person who needed to be persuaded.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And on what principles do you operate if he&#039;s able to talk you off of them, so easily?
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Simple. By talking to me like I was an intelligent person who needed to be persuaded&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thus demonstrating his inability to stay within the realm of reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Simple. By talking to me like I was an intelligent person who needed to be persuaded.</p></blockquote>
<p>And on what principles do you operate if he's able to talk you off of them, so easily?</p>
<blockquote><p>Simple. By talking to me like I was an intelligent person who needed to be persuaded</p></blockquote>
<p>Thus demonstrating his inability to stay within the realm of reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republican_/comment-page-2/#comment-522411</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Alex, you&#039;re a tree stump.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How appropriate.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldofmi.com/thegames/monkey1/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You fight like a cow.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Alex, you're a tree stump.</p></blockquote>
<p>How appropriate.  <a href="http://www.worldofmi.com/thegames/monkey1/index.php" rel="nofollow">You fight like a cow.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee!! That leaves .0000003 of a person, the average drunk probably loses more cognitive cells than that on an single binge! 
Talk about unknown!
Wow! What a remarkable rise to ignominious notoriety![lol]
So.... You say she blindsided the omniscient elites?[grinz]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee!! That leaves .0000003 of a person, the average drunk probably loses more cognitive cells than that on an single binge!<br />
Talk about unknown!<br />
Wow! What a remarkable rise to ignominious notoriety![lol]<br />
So.... You say she blindsided the omniscient elites?[grinz]</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Considering the level of disdain,wouldn&#039;t you think that if her detractors thought it was the peter principle, they would have started b*tching when she ran for mayor?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A. 99.9999999999999% of the people in the U.S. did not know she was alive when she ran for mayor.

B. She may well have been an adequate small town mayor. She may even be a decent gov. of a state with a low population. I don&#039;t know anything about Alaska politics.

Clearly, she was totally unprepared to function effectively as a candidate for national office, or to serve with distinction, or even competence, if elected. Hence the Peter Principal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Considering the level of disdain,wouldn't you think that if her detractors thought it was the peter principle, they would have started b*tching when she ran for mayor?</p></blockquote>
<p>A. 99.9999999999999% of the people in the U.S. did not know she was alive when she ran for mayor.</p>
<p>B. She may well have been an adequate small town mayor. She may even be a decent gov. of a state with a low population. I don't know anything about Alaska politics.</p>
<p>Clearly, she was totally unprepared to function effectively as a candidate for national office, or to serve with distinction, or even competence, if elected. Hence the Peter Principal.</p>
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