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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republicans_losing_edge_on_foreign_policy_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-76662</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some additional thought on this...  This poll wants to tell us that the Republicans, specifically the president, are in trouble.  What recent poll has told us anything different?  What news report has told us anything different?  I am not personally enamoured with their every move.

However, we don&#039;t expect the next election to be decided on these five issues.  Just because a person might be willing to cross parties in the next election does not necessarily say that they will subscribe to, or in any way accept the rest of the party platform.  

I think in the last election we saw the alternatives to be so distasteful that Bush was elected, even though not the ideal candidate. Still, according to the exit polls in 2004, John Kerry is our President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some additional thought on this...  This poll wants to tell us that the Republicans, specifically the president, are in trouble.  What recent poll has told us anything different?  What news report has told us anything different?  I am not personally enamoured with their every move.</p>
<p>However, we don't expect the next election to be decided on these five issues.  Just because a person might be willing to cross parties in the next election does not necessarily say that they will subscribe to, or in any way accept the rest of the party platform.  </p>
<p>I think in the last election we saw the alternatives to be so distasteful that Bush was elected, even though not the ideal candidate. Still, according to the exit polls in 2004, John Kerry is our President.</p>
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		<title>By: MrGone</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/republicans_losing_edge_on_foreign_policy_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-76660</link>
		<dc:creator>MrGone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, First off, I didn&#039;t say the Democrats would do better.  Although it&#039;s hard to believe they could do any worse.  All I was pointing out is the fallacy that the Republican spin machine keeps spouting, they are the party who will keep us safe.  Right!

Second, you can blame Clinton all you want but these guys have been in charge for 6 years now.  In addition, according to the right wing mantra, &quot;9/11 changed everything!&quot;  Well, if I believe that, it means that our government should have been doing everything humanly possible to protect us and improve security.  Guess what?  It&#039;s not true.  Nothing&#039;s changed!  Nada, zero, zip!  By all accounts, it&#039;s worse.  

These guys are all the same(left and right).  They don&#039;t care about me or you.  They only care about money and power.  Stop acting like any of them are highly moral, upstanding public servants.  They are ALL crooks and liars.  The problem I have now is that the current majority party is using the cloak of security and fear to basically get away with everything they&#039;ve wanted for years.

Just think for a second about what&#039;s been going on.  Not a single veto! Not one!  This hasn&#039;t happened since John Adams.  The President comes out and says he doesn&#039;t need to follow laws.  Congress just sits on its hands.  We are sinking into unparalleled debt and foreign investment.  There is no accountability, no responsibility, nothing.  Things like this scare me.  I wish I could have your rosy view of the future but, to me it look pretty dim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, First off, I didn't say the Democrats would do better.  Although it's hard to believe they could do any worse.  All I was pointing out is the fallacy that the Republican spin machine keeps spouting, they are the party who will keep us safe.  Right!</p>
<p>Second, you can blame Clinton all you want but these guys have been in charge for 6 years now.  In addition, according to the right wing mantra, "9/11 changed everything!"  Well, if I believe that, it means that our government should have been doing everything humanly possible to protect us and improve security.  Guess what?  It's not true.  Nothing's changed!  Nada, zero, zip!  By all accounts, it's worse.  </p>
<p>These guys are all the same(left and right).  They don't care about me or you.  They only care about money and power.  Stop acting like any of them are highly moral, upstanding public servants.  They are ALL crooks and liars.  The problem I have now is that the current majority party is using the cloak of security and fear to basically get away with everything they've wanted for years.</p>
<p>Just think for a second about what's been going on.  Not a single veto! Not one!  This hasn't happened since John Adams.  The President comes out and says he doesn't need to follow laws.  Congress just sits on its hands.  We are sinking into unparalleled debt and foreign investment.  There is no accountability, no responsibility, nothing.  Things like this scare me.  I wish I could have your rosy view of the future but, to me it look pretty dim.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJD:

I agree that polls aren&#039;t very useful in deciding public policy or answering most questions of fact. Whether there is going to be a civil war in Iraq is something that not even geniune experts know; polling on that is silly.

Polling &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; useful, however, for gauging the public mood.  What all the polls tell us is that the Republicans are in trouble at the moment.  They don&#039;t tell us anything about what will happen between now and November, of course, but November is getting pretty doggone close.

I&#039;m curious about the question wording as well, although Bolger and Greenberg agreed upon it.  My guess is that it has to do with solving specific problems rather than generic issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJD:</p>
<p>I agree that polls aren't very useful in deciding public policy or answering most questions of fact. Whether there is going to be a civil war in Iraq is something that not even geniune experts know; polling on that is silly.</p>
<p>Polling <em>is</em> useful, however, for gauging the public mood.  What all the polls tell us is that the Republicans are in trouble at the moment.  They don't tell us anything about what will happen between now and November, of course, but November is getting pretty doggone close.</p>
<p>I'm curious about the question wording as well, although Bolger and Greenberg agreed upon it.  My guess is that it has to do with solving specific problems rather than generic issues.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I merely point out that there&#039;s not much value in polls, depending on the use.  Sorry if that steps on your toes as a political scientist.  

Research for use in marketing perhaps has some value.  Polls about national policy are not an indication of any hard facts.  There is often a broad gap between opinion and fact, and the masses are often uninformed.  I thought you recently pointed out that 80% of Americans believing there was civil war in Iraq was irrelevant? We don&#039;t run this country by polls because we trust our elected representatives to make decisions for us. 

You can&#039;t give any credence to the fact the the questions are poorly worded?  From the question, this is supposed to be a list of issues, right?  It appears to be more of a list of complaints:  &#039;lack of attention&#039;, &#039;outsourcing&#039; and &#039;violence (i.e. civil war)&#039;.  All very leading concepts that point to complaints about this administration specifically.    

I would think much simpler terms would have yielded different results.  i.e. Immigration, Homeland Security, Global Economic Competition, and so on. 

You should also note that &#039;polls&#039; have determined THE most significant problem facing the U.S. to be Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I merely point out that there's not much value in polls, depending on the use.  Sorry if that steps on your toes as a political scientist.  </p>
<p>Research for use in marketing perhaps has some value.  Polls about national policy are not an indication of any hard facts.  There is often a broad gap between opinion and fact, and the masses are often uninformed.  I thought you recently pointed out that 80% of Americans believing there was civil war in Iraq was irrelevant? We don't run this country by polls because we trust our elected representatives to make decisions for us. </p>
<p>You can't give any credence to the fact the the questions are poorly worded?  From the question, this is supposed to be a list of issues, right?  It appears to be more of a list of complaints:  'lack of attention', 'outsourcing' and 'violence (i.e. civil war)'.  All very leading concepts that point to complaints about this administration specifically.    </p>
<p>I would think much simpler terms would have yielded different results.  i.e. Immigration, Homeland Security, Global Economic Competition, and so on. </p>
<p>You should also note that 'polls' have determined THE most significant problem facing the U.S. to be Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MrGone: I would note that it&#039;s easy to criticize from the sidelines. The Democrats haven&#039;t been in charge, so they can claim they would have done better.  

I would note that Osama declared war on the U.S halfway through Clinton&#039;s watch and that 9/11 was five years later.  And the current problems with port security were there when Clinton was in office, too.  Bush deserves blame for not having done more but it&#039;s not like things were going swimmingly before; the cracks just hadn&#039;t manifested in an explosion yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrGone: I would note that it's easy to criticize from the sidelines. The Democrats haven't been in charge, so they can claim they would have done better.  </p>
<p>I would note that Osama declared war on the U.S halfway through Clinton's watch and that 9/11 was five years later.  And the current problems with port security were there when Clinton was in office, too.  Bush deserves blame for not having done more but it's not like things were going swimmingly before; the cracks just hadn't manifested in an explosion yet.</p>
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		<title>By: MrGone</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrGone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would respectfully suggest that the Republican &quot;edge&quot; wasn&#039;t anything more than perception and marketing to begin with.  The security failures and bungling of this administration and congress are unbelievable even by historical standards.  They are after all the ones who were in control during 9/11(of course no one is blamed).  The ones who brought us into a war with Iraq on faulty intelligence(benefit of doubt given here).  The ones who showed us just how &quot;adult&quot; they were at dealing with an actual disaster.  The ones who showed us how to protect the ports and critical infrastructure.  I think what&#039;s finally happened here is that people are looking at the results instead of the spin and you know what, it don&#039;t look pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would respectfully suggest that the Republican "edge" wasn't anything more than perception and marketing to begin with.  The security failures and bungling of this administration and congress are unbelievable even by historical standards.  They are after all the ones who were in control during 9/11(of course no one is blamed).  The ones who brought us into a war with Iraq on faulty intelligence(benefit of doubt given here).  The ones who showed us just how "adult" they were at dealing with an actual disaster.  The ones who showed us how to protect the ports and critical infrastructure.  I think what's finally happened here is that people are looking at the results instead of the spin and you know what, it don't look pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Say Anything</title>
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		<dc:creator>Say Anything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Republicans Losing Their Edge On National Security Issues...&lt;/strong&gt;

This is one ugly poll for Republicans. I actually predicted before that the GOP use of national security of a political &quot;life-line&quot; to pull them out of any electoral problems was going to backfire. Here&#039;s what I said before: ...Republicans......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Republicans Losing Their Edge On National Security Issues...</strong></p>
<p>This is one ugly poll for Republicans. I actually predicted before that the GOP use of national security of a political "life-line" to pull them out of any electoral problems was going to backfire. Here's what I said before: ...Republicans......</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJD:  Really, every poll whose results you dislike is not &quot;crappy.&quot;

POS and Greenberg Quinlan Rosner are, respectively, the best Republican and Democratic polling firms in the country. The parties and their leading candidates for national and statewide office pay them millions to commission surveys because their results are trustworthy.  

And your alternate questions make no sense. The survey is asking which party likely voters trust more to handle those issues, not what the public&#039;s view of those issues is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJD:  Really, every poll whose results you dislike is not "crappy."</p>
<p>POS and Greenberg Quinlan Rosner are, respectively, the best Republican and Democratic polling firms in the country. The parties and their leading candidates for national and statewide office pay them millions to commission surveys because their results are trustworthy.  </p>
<p>And your alternate questions make no sense. The survey is asking which party likely voters trust more to handle those issues, not what the public's view of those issues is.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not surprised in the response about the President&#039;s illegal immigration policy, but talk about loaded questions...

Why not just say:

Are you for homeland security?
Do you want to outsource jobs?
Do you support religious violence?
A nuclear Iran?

Yet another crappy, irresponsible poll that means nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not surprised in the response about the President's illegal immigration policy, but talk about loaded questions...</p>
<p>Why not just say:</p>
<p>Are you for homeland security?<br />
Do you want to outsource jobs?<br />
Do you support religious violence?<br />
A nuclear Iran?</p>
<p>Yet another crappy, irresponsible poll that means nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Side of the Rainbow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Side of the Rainbow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt; “Ugly numbers” for GOP Republicans havelost their edge on foreign policy and national security. This much we know to be true: Democrats can’t win elections when voters see them as weak on national security. What we don’t know yet — but may learn in November&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%--> “Ugly numbers” for GOP Republicans havelost their edge on foreign policy and national security. This much we know to be true: Democrats can&rsquo;t win elections when voters see them as weak on national security. What we don&rsquo;t know yet — but may learn in November<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Slowplay.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slowplay.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Little Green Footballs - 1 hour agoRepublicans Losing Edge on Foreign Policy Issues&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->Little Green Footballs - 1 hour agoRepublicans Losing Edge on Foreign Policy Issues<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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