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		<title>By: KevinA</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/right_needs_new_public_intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-529042</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^:sigh:  And this thread &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; going so well.

James, while purely one lone anecdote on this thread, Mr. Campbell might be evidence that for the current base of the GOP, having few new ideas/being anti-intellectual is a feature, not a bug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^:sigh:  And this thread <em>was</em> going so well.</p>
<p>James, while purely one lone anecdote on this thread, Mr. Campbell might be evidence that for the current base of the GOP, having few new ideas/being anti-intellectual is a feature, not a bug.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Campbell</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/right_needs_new_public_intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-528941</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where to start.. I read the article and many of the comments and it is mind-boggling.. simply intellectual gar-baggggge..

Why don&#039;t you guys start beating your gums about how liberalism is going to work over the next 4 years instead of trying to tell us Conservatives how to reprogram.  Heck, 18% of the registered Republicans stayed home.. we put a moderate in the race that turned most of us off.. and of course, we couldn&#039;t overcome the freaking aura of electing the first Black President and a Messiah at the same time.

From my stand point I am waiting for you folks to prove that liberal politics, spending, and government dependency will turn things around.  Until you do you have no business telling us Conservatives what will work and won&#039;t work.  We know what will work.  Reagan knew what worked.  Of course what he did is too simple for the liberal thinker to intellectually understand.

Personally I am happy the Liberals won.. they are going to own ALL the wonderful crap happening in America now.  Of course they will blame everything on Bush, but what the hell, that is how the Liberals operate, it is always someone else&#039;s fault, including this article on how the  Conservatives need to change.. remember CHANGE is the Obama slogan, not ours.

I&#039;m done.. if you post this I will never believe you had the guts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know where to start.. I read the article and many of the comments and it is mind-boggling.. simply intellectual gar-baggggge..</p>
<p>Why don't you guys start beating your gums about how liberalism is going to work over the next 4 years instead of trying to tell us Conservatives how to reprogram.  Heck, 18% of the registered Republicans stayed home.. we put a moderate in the race that turned most of us off.. and of course, we couldn't overcome the freaking aura of electing the first Black President and a Messiah at the same time.</p>
<p>From my stand point I am waiting for you folks to prove that liberal politics, spending, and government dependency will turn things around.  Until you do you have no business telling us Conservatives what will work and won't work.  We know what will work.  Reagan knew what worked.  Of course what he did is too simple for the liberal thinker to intellectually understand.</p>
<p>Personally I am happy the Liberals won.. they are going to own ALL the wonderful crap happening in America now.  Of course they will blame everything on Bush, but what the hell, that is how the Liberals operate, it is always someone else's fault, including this article on how the  Conservatives need to change.. remember CHANGE is the Obama slogan, not ours.</p>
<p>I'm done.. if you post this I will never believe you had the guts.</p>
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		<title>By: angullimala</title>
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		<dc:creator>angullimala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you completely.  

One serious practical problem with getting the movement back on track is that it&#039;s spent so long telling it&#039;s members that they can have their cake and eat it too and that anyone who tells them otherwise has ulterior motives.  Its going to be hard to convince them that they can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you completely.  </p>
<p>One serious practical problem with getting the movement back on track is that it's spent so long telling it's members that they can have their cake and eat it too and that anyone who tells them otherwise has ulterior motives.  Its going to be hard to convince them that they can't.</p>
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		<title>By: charles johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see from the bio above that Mr. Joyner is actually Dr. Joyner. James, with that Ph.D, YOU might not be welcome on the right much longer. You&#039;re probably an &lt;em&gt;Elitist&lt;/em&gt;. I bet you even like &lt;em&gt;arugula.&lt;/em&gt; To prove that you&#039;re not, please write a few blog posts on why Sarah Palin is the Third Greatest American to run on a Presidential/Vice Presidential ticket, behind, obviously, Pat Robertson and Ronald Reagan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see from the bio above that Mr. Joyner is actually Dr. Joyner. James, with that Ph.D, YOU might not be welcome on the right much longer. You're probably an <em>Elitist</em>. I bet you even like <em>arugula.</em> To prove that you're not, please write a few blog posts on why Sarah Palin is the Third Greatest American to run on a Presidential/Vice Presidential ticket, behind, obviously, Pat Robertson and Ronald Reagan.</p>
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		<title>By: charles johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is the southern strategy. Now, I&#039;ve lived in the south all my life. I like the south. Parts of it. I don&#039;t hide my southern accent and I can drink out of a Ball jar and watch auto races and live in a trailer and all that. 

But there are a lot of dumb people here too, and people who are culturally backwards and don&#039;t like blacks and think gays should be arrested and so forth. I&#039;m not believing a stereotype, I&#039;m basically just describing my relatives. For instance when my younger brother was 16 he said he wanted a t-shirt of Michael Jordan, and one of my relatives said &quot;Why do you want a shirt with a n***** on it?&quot; That was only like 10 years ago. And in the wave of the civil rights movement in the 1960&#039;s a bunch of whites were really pissed off by the whole thing and started making more noise in politics and Nixon and Buchanan and those guys started cultivating them. And the more you play to people like that, the more you drive young educated urban people away and it becomes a self reinforcing thing and after several decades your policies are totally retarded and out of touch and when your party gets total control like it had from 2000 to 2006 you make a complete mess of everything you touch. I used to consider myself something of a conservative, when I thought of conservatives as George HW Bush and William Buckley. The more I got to see, the more I saw that that&#039;s not the modern conservative movement. The modern conservative movement is stocked with people who think that gay people will somehow threaten straight people&#039;s marriages, Paying for tax cuts with deficit spending is a fantastic idea, and global warming is just a conspiracy of several thousand scientists. This isn&#039;t simply wrong or out of touch, it&#039;s (expletive) crazy. Serious conservative Wick Allison recently called the GOP the &quot;Party of Stupid&quot;. Even the intellectual conservative places have been crazified. I went to National Review&#039;s &quot;The Corner&quot; a couple of months ago and counted 28 mentions of ACORN on the first page. National Review! Lots of educated people like myself have been pushed away. I would like to read intelligent  conservative blogs, because all I read pretty much these days is Kevin Drum, Washington Monthly, Yglesias, Spencer Ackerman etc. 

I just have a hard time finding intelligent conservative blogs. Any time I venture to a right-wing blog I start seeing Obama is a terrorist! Obama is a socialist! Nancy Pelosi wants your kindergartener to watch gay porn! or whatever and I&#039;m not going to read incredibly dumb junk so I stop going. And then they lose humongously and they say Hmm....we should have been even conservier! More base! McCain was too liberal! That was clearly the problem! Ronald Reagan! Ronald Reagan! 

No dude. Ronald Reagan was not the problem. The problem is you&#039;re appealing to a bunch of uneducated Christianists and so you&#039;ve lost young educated and tolerant people. Put them together with blacks, women, and Latinos, and you lose. Since the GOP reaction to the loss seems to want to be to get extra basey, I expect them to lose again for the next several years. Once they get tired of losing, they&#039;ll start reaching out to tolerant and educated people again and eventually be competitive again. But for now I just expect them to retreat further into the Fox / Freep / Rush / Hannity collective of the clueless. They need some time in the wilderness. After they lose 2 or 3 more elections they&#039;re going to start wondering if pandering to the shrinking demographic of older white southern uneducated men is such a good idea moving forward. And time out of power will let the public forget that their management of the economy and the federal budget is distinctly poorer than the Democrats, all rhetoric to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is the southern strategy. Now, I've lived in the south all my life. I like the south. Parts of it. I don't hide my southern accent and I can drink out of a Ball jar and watch auto races and live in a trailer and all that. </p>
<p>But there are a lot of dumb people here too, and people who are culturally backwards and don't like blacks and think gays should be arrested and so forth. I'm not believing a stereotype, I'm basically just describing my relatives. For instance when my younger brother was 16 he said he wanted a t-shirt of Michael Jordan, and one of my relatives said "Why do you want a shirt with a n***** on it?" That was only like 10 years ago. And in the wave of the civil rights movement in the 1960's a bunch of whites were really pissed off by the whole thing and started making more noise in politics and Nixon and Buchanan and those guys started cultivating them. And the more you play to people like that, the more you drive young educated urban people away and it becomes a self reinforcing thing and after several decades your policies are totally retarded and out of touch and when your party gets total control like it had from 2000 to 2006 you make a complete mess of everything you touch. I used to consider myself something of a conservative, when I thought of conservatives as George HW Bush and William Buckley. The more I got to see, the more I saw that that's not the modern conservative movement. The modern conservative movement is stocked with people who think that gay people will somehow threaten straight people's marriages, Paying for tax cuts with deficit spending is a fantastic idea, and global warming is just a conspiracy of several thousand scientists. This isn't simply wrong or out of touch, it's (expletive) crazy. Serious conservative Wick Allison recently called the GOP the "Party of Stupid". Even the intellectual conservative places have been crazified. I went to National Review's "The Corner" a couple of months ago and counted 28 mentions of ACORN on the first page. National Review! Lots of educated people like myself have been pushed away. I would like to read intelligent  conservative blogs, because all I read pretty much these days is Kevin Drum, Washington Monthly, Yglesias, Spencer Ackerman etc. </p>
<p>I just have a hard time finding intelligent conservative blogs. Any time I venture to a right-wing blog I start seeing Obama is a terrorist! Obama is a socialist! Nancy Pelosi wants your kindergartener to watch gay porn! or whatever and I'm not going to read incredibly dumb junk so I stop going. And then they lose humongously and they say Hmm....we should have been even conservier! More base! McCain was too liberal! That was clearly the problem! Ronald Reagan! Ronald Reagan! </p>
<p>No dude. Ronald Reagan was not the problem. The problem is you're appealing to a bunch of uneducated Christianists and so you've lost young educated and tolerant people. Put them together with blacks, women, and Latinos, and you lose. Since the GOP reaction to the loss seems to want to be to get extra basey, I expect them to lose again for the next several years. Once they get tired of losing, they'll start reaching out to tolerant and educated people again and eventually be competitive again. But for now I just expect them to retreat further into the Fox / Freep / Rush / Hannity collective of the clueless. They need some time in the wilderness. After they lose 2 or 3 more elections they're going to start wondering if pandering to the shrinking demographic of older white southern uneducated men is such a good idea moving forward. And time out of power will let the public forget that their management of the economy and the federal budget is distinctly poorer than the Democrats, all rhetoric to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: jibeaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>jibeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe the Plumber didn&#039;t even fit the point they were trying to make.  A slightly more intellectually rigorous campaign might have preferred, I don&#039;t know, maybe a plumber (or pseudo-plumber) who actually was going to be taxed MORE UNDER OBAMA&#039;S PLAN.  Instead they stumbled across a guy who wasn&#039;t named Joe, wasn&#039;t a licensed plumber, wasn&#039;t actually going to buy the business, didn&#039;t seem to be in any danger of approaching $250k/yr., and all of a sudden he&#039;s a campaign surrogate/mascot.  I realize this is pretty much consistent with the &quot;hey, she&#039;s a girl&quot; strategy they employed to find Sarah Palin, but eventually the Republicans are going to have to realize that not everyone is dumber than a bag of hammers inside a box of rocks.  I mean, a lot of people are, don&#039;t get me wrong, a quarter of this country would vote for Bush again so you&#039;ve kind of always got a certain voting block, but it just isn&#039;t going to be enough.

There aren&#039;t any &quot;conservative&quot; solutions to income disparity, the lack of health insurance, environmental degradation, etc. because conservatives, unlike voters, do not see these things as problems.  The fact that 99% of American incomes are stagnant while 1% have increased over the last 8 years is a feature rather than a bug to these guys.  Global warming doesn&#039;t exist because, wow, it&#039;s chilly today!   It&#039;s not a philosophy that exactly thrives on rigorous critical thinking.  I mean, try to imagine the extent of the hostility to science and objective evidence you would have to maintain to deny evolution.

Whereas I will always remember Yglesias&#039; analysis of how the economy does better under Democratic presidents, complete with fairly striking graph, followed by his questioning of why this should be, since the executive shouldn&#039;t really have as much control over the economy as that would imply, and what other factors could be at play.  Just try to imagine a right-wing blogger confronted with favorable statistics stepping back for a moment and looking at them dispassionately and less favorably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe the Plumber didn't even fit the point they were trying to make.  A slightly more intellectually rigorous campaign might have preferred, I don't know, maybe a plumber (or pseudo-plumber) who actually was going to be taxed MORE UNDER OBAMA'S PLAN.  Instead they stumbled across a guy who wasn't named Joe, wasn't a licensed plumber, wasn't actually going to buy the business, didn't seem to be in any danger of approaching $250k/yr., and all of a sudden he's a campaign surrogate/mascot.  I realize this is pretty much consistent with the "hey, she's a girl" strategy they employed to find Sarah Palin, but eventually the Republicans are going to have to realize that not everyone is dumber than a bag of hammers inside a box of rocks.  I mean, a lot of people are, don't get me wrong, a quarter of this country would vote for Bush again so you've kind of always got a certain voting block, but it just isn't going to be enough.</p>
<p>There aren't any "conservative" solutions to income disparity, the lack of health insurance, environmental degradation, etc. because conservatives, unlike voters, do not see these things as problems.  The fact that 99% of American incomes are stagnant while 1% have increased over the last 8 years is a feature rather than a bug to these guys.  Global warming doesn't exist because, wow, it's chilly today!   It's not a philosophy that exactly thrives on rigorous critical thinking.  I mean, try to imagine the extent of the hostility to science and objective evidence you would have to maintain to deny evolution.</p>
<p>Whereas I will always remember Yglesias' analysis of how the economy does better under Democratic presidents, complete with fairly striking graph, followed by his questioning of why this should be, since the executive shouldn't really have as much control over the economy as that would imply, and what other factors could be at play.  Just try to imagine a right-wing blogger confronted with favorable statistics stepping back for a moment and looking at them dispassionately and less favorably.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gentlemen, the Learned, and the Mob &#171; Grand Moff Texan&#8217;s MOMENT OF TRIUMPH</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gentlemen, the Learned, and the Mob &#171; Grand Moff Texan&#8217;s MOMENT OF TRIUMPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rather than just pretend there&#8217;s no problem, but to whom would that appeal? Benen has located an intelligent and thoughtful conservative, in it&#8217;s native environment. Shhhhhh! Don&#8217;t frighten him away. Poor thing&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rather than just pretend there&#8217;s no problem, but to whom would that appeal? Benen has located an intelligent and thoughtful conservative, in it&#8217;s native environment. Shhhhhh! Don&#8217;t frighten him away. Poor thing&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eyelessgame</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyelessgame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To ameliorate that - you&#039;re correct that Reagan was a different era. There were many problems that could be solved by tax cuts and a free market. And thanks to Reagan, we solved them. So we are now left with those problems that conservatism cannot solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ameliorate that - you're correct that Reagan was a different era. There were many problems that could be solved by tax cuts and a free market. And thanks to Reagan, we solved them. So we are now left with those problems that conservatism cannot solve.</p>
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		<title>By: eyelessgame</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyelessgame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ultimately you seem to have a party of people who want to run government while simultaneously believing there is nothing for government to do. And that is not a recent development; that is the entirety of Reagan&#039;s message. Cut taxes, spend on big-shoulders militarism, create huge deficits for someone else to clean up, and pretend that the free market will solve all other problems.

There are no &quot;conservative&quot; solutions to global warming, crumbling infrastructure, health care, increasing wealth disparity, shrinking manufacturing base, or unregulated corrupt markets -- because those things cannot be solved by a free market or tax cuts, yet a free market and tax cuts &lt;em&gt;are all that conservatives ever had&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately you seem to have a party of people who want to run government while simultaneously believing there is nothing for government to do. And that is not a recent development; that is the entirety of Reagan's message. Cut taxes, spend on big-shoulders militarism, create huge deficits for someone else to clean up, and pretend that the free market will solve all other problems.</p>
<p>There are no "conservative" solutions to global warming, crumbling infrastructure, health care, increasing wealth disparity, shrinking manufacturing base, or unregulated corrupt markets -- because those things cannot be solved by a free market or tax cuts, yet a free market and tax cuts <em>are all that conservatives ever had</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Balloon Juice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Intellectual Depth Of A Wading Pool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balloon Juice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Intellectual Depth Of A Wading Pool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve Benen, read James Joyner complain that the right ran out of current ideas some time around [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think part of this is the rights years long assault on intellectualism. Pushing the sophomoric headline and sound bite meme&#039;s that are laughable in the face of complex problems.

The right&#039;s base has been conditioned that there is a simple black and white answer for &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt;.

The right as treated nuanced and measured debate as nothing more than a nuisance.  Anyone on the left that pointed this out was treated as weak or hit with ad hominem attacks.

The right is extremely good at pushing their message in the media and doing it in a way that completely (and intentionally) boils it down into yes/no arguments and is able to rile the base.

&quot;Obama is a socialist!&quot;
&quot;Up or down vote!&quot;
&quot;Voted for it before he was against it!&quot;

A perfect example is &quot;Joe the Plumber.&quot;  Here is a guy, embraced by the right base that wasn&#039;t really a plumber (or was performing work illegally), wasn&#039;t really &quot;getting ready to buy a plumbing business,&quot; and had a lein for unpaid taxes and there is now talk of him running for congress?!?  He isn&#039;t particularly bright, plays by his own rules, yet the right loves him because He is an &quot;average joe&quot;?  He is an opportunist and a political prop, nothing more.

Sorry, but I don&#039;t want to have a beer with my elected representatives.  I want someone smart as hell that is legislating on my behalf.

I realize there are lot on the right like Mr. Joyner that see this, but how can you fight it when the bulk of your base is more Walmart than intellectually curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of this is the rights years long assault on intellectualism. Pushing the sophomoric headline and sound bite meme's that are laughable in the face of complex problems.</p>
<p>The right's base has been conditioned that there is a simple black and white answer for <i>everything</i>.</p>
<p>The right as treated nuanced and measured debate as nothing more than a nuisance.  Anyone on the left that pointed this out was treated as weak or hit with ad hominem attacks.</p>
<p>The right is extremely good at pushing their message in the media and doing it in a way that completely (and intentionally) boils it down into yes/no arguments and is able to rile the base.</p>
<p>"Obama is a socialist!"<br />
"Up or down vote!"<br />
"Voted for it before he was against it!"</p>
<p>A perfect example is "Joe the Plumber."  Here is a guy, embraced by the right base that wasn't really a plumber (or was performing work illegally), wasn't really "getting ready to buy a plumbing business," and had a lein for unpaid taxes and there is now talk of him running for congress?!?  He isn't particularly bright, plays by his own rules, yet the right loves him because He is an "average joe"?  He is an opportunist and a political prop, nothing more.</p>
<p>Sorry, but I don't want to have a beer with my elected representatives.  I want someone smart as hell that is legislating on my behalf.</p>
<p>I realize there are lot on the right like Mr. Joyner that see this, but how can you fight it when the bulk of your base is more Walmart than intellectually curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Political Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The &#039;righroots&#039;...&lt;/strong&gt;

THE &#039;RIGHROOTS&#039;.... The Washington Post ran an interesting, 2,300-word item today on conservative blogs and their future within (alongside?) the Republican Party. As far as leading conservative activists -- online and off -- are concerned, the right ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The 'righroots'...</strong></p>
<p>THE 'RIGHROOTS'.... The Washington Post ran an interesting, 2,300-word item today on conservative blogs and their future within (alongside?) the Republican Party. As far as leading conservative activists -- online and off -- are concerned, the right ...</p>
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		<title>By: Beautiful Horizons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beautiful Horizons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More on Wussification...&lt;/strong&gt;

Kevin Drum has more here and links to this post by James Joyner, a conservative and an intelligent one at that. Joyner suggests that conservatives remain obsessed with the issues surrounding the 1980 election and the Reagan administration.In fairness t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More on Wussification...</strong></p>
<p>Kevin Drum has more here and links to this post by James Joyner, a conservative and an intelligent one at that. Joyner suggests that conservatives remain obsessed with the issues surrounding the 1980 election and the Reagan administration.In fairness t...</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/right_needs_new_public_intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-528218</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really a simple minded view, teh, even for the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's really a simple minded view, teh, even for the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Ottovbvs</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/right_needs_new_public_intellectuals/comment-page-1/#comment-528207</link>
		<dc:creator>Ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with all the right wing think tanks is they are totally locked in a paradigm that history has left behind. Read the WSJ ed page for a couple of weeks and the same old people from AEI, Heritage, etc like Hassett and company keep popping up. The problem is there is a body of record from these folks that is so incredibly wrong (Hassett&#039;s 35,000 Dow, We&#039;ll be greeted as liberators, the examples are legion) that they are totally discredited with anyone outside the choir of believers. The problem is that as keepers of the flame these think tanks are going to ensure these paradigms remain at the heart of conservative thinking. Bolt on the noise machine of talk radio, tv and publishing which serves as an echo chamber and you have a movement that is in a cul de sac and can&#039;t get out. I&#039;m not sure how long this is going to take to play out, years and years probably, and there&#039;s not much that can be done about it. The US is in a huge economic crisis at present, anything Obama and the democratic congress does is going to look good. A big chunk of Republicans in congress are going to have to go with the flow both because in many cases it&#039;s the right thing to do but also because they just cannot look as if they are obstructing pragmatic policy making or they are going to get destroyed in 2010. I really don&#039;t know what the answer is. Conservatism and the GOP is suffering from a brain fever which is just going to have to play itself out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with all the right wing think tanks is they are totally locked in a paradigm that history has left behind. Read the WSJ ed page for a couple of weeks and the same old people from AEI, Heritage, etc like Hassett and company keep popping up. The problem is there is a body of record from these folks that is so incredibly wrong (Hassett's 35,000 Dow, We'll be greeted as liberators, the examples are legion) that they are totally discredited with anyone outside the choir of believers. The problem is that as keepers of the flame these think tanks are going to ensure these paradigms remain at the heart of conservative thinking. Bolt on the noise machine of talk radio, tv and publishing which serves as an echo chamber and you have a movement that is in a cul de sac and can't get out. I'm not sure how long this is going to take to play out, years and years probably, and there's not much that can be done about it. The US is in a huge economic crisis at present, anything Obama and the democratic congress does is going to look good. A big chunk of Republicans in congress are going to have to go with the flow both because in many cases it's the right thing to do but also because they just cannot look as if they are obstructing pragmatic policy making or they are going to get destroyed in 2010. I really don't know what the answer is. Conservatism and the GOP is suffering from a brain fever which is just going to have to play itself out.</p>
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